S-FM 339: ?KRC, M-FM edition

[FM-Father and Sun]

I'd love to kill Inconspicuous Man tbh.

[FM-Purple]

What don't you understand?

I think Inconspicuous Man is always a baddy.

I'm confused about the you Tess thing because of Tess' spam

You said so yourself, Tess is spamming the same non sense and defending inco and bones as both neutrals. I made sure Tess confirmed that his read on inco was of a neutral before i outed that the extra info on inco is that he is triad, Tess didnt bother to reevaluate, he reacted like he got caught in more lies instead.

[FM-Bizarro Pepsi]

I'm still not shooting anyone if I don't get anyone to claim it.
Otherwise the gun is sus af.

[FM-Purple]

@FM-Comrade PickleRadish

Its up for sale

Huh? What is up for sale?

[FM-Father and Sun]

I'm still not shooting anyone if I don't get anyone to claim it.
Otherwise the gun is sus af.

Its SOMETHING claimed he gave it to you

[FM-Purple]

I will buy it in the event we end up voting Purple or Tess, but it will be for naught if inco is lynched.

This will probably be my last post for the night. Letting my vote on Purple simmer for obvious reasons, because I don't think the 1-for-1 trade is worth it. Of course I'm biased b/c it is a life and death situation for me and seeing how frantic and divisive town seems to have gotten, I don't trust the trade, since it's hard for us to reach consensus.

I dont understand how a trade of 1 for 1 with a wolf is not worth it if you are town?

Unless you are not town.

[FM-Father and Sun]

You said so yourself, Tess is spamming the same non sense and defending inco and bones as both neutrals. I made sure Tess confirmed that his read on inco was of a neutral before i outed that the extra info on inco is that he is triad, Tess didnt bother to reevaluate, he reacted like he got caught in more lies instead.

TBH I'm just not reading what he's saying because its annoying as hell.

[FM-Purple]

In my notes I have them as wolf.

My reads
1. Villageish on Chage-Kitty-Demonic-Its Something-Blue Beard. Playing like villagers
2. Oh no seems v
3. Dark Unicorn(?)

SCUM
1. Mafia Bro is not really playing or believing his reads. Mr bones tooo
2. Mr Pain is illogical with reads and makes strange/bad pushes
3. Inconspicuous man is red check + lolcating
4. Purple-Tess red checks and lies! v read them on tone

Me and Tess in your scum pile? Do you mean both of us or one us?

[FM-Father and Sun]

Me and Tess in your scum pile? Do you mean both of us or one us?

One of you is scum.

I was town reading both of you but one of you is probably a wolf based on all the red check chats.

[FM-Its SOMETHING]

I'm still not shooting anyone if I don't get anyone to claim it.
Otherwise the gun is sus af.

Feel free to read my LW. You know, the one you said you can "agree with".

Same goes for Leaf and his "why would you give random item on >>N0<< to your Scumread??" bullcracp.

[FM-Purple]

TBH I'm just not reading what he's saying because its annoying as hell.

Well i get it how annoying it is but think it this way, the more mad a person gets the more mistakes he makes, cause a hot head does not think with clarity, that is why you should be reading Tess non sense, because in the non sense you may find spew.

[FM-Father and Sun]

Feel free to read my LW. You know, the one you said you can "agree with".

Same goes for Leaf and his "why would you give random item on >>N0<< to your Scumread??" bullcracp.

Hey!

Why did you chose to give death tailor N0?

[FM-Father and Sun]

Well i get it how annoying it is but think it this way, the more mad a person gets the more mistakes he makes, cause a hot head does not think with clarity, that is why you should be reading Tess non sense, because in the non sense you may find spew.

I know your right but I just can't gather the WIM to wade through it

[FM-Purple]

I'm already motivated to vote Purple for the time being, because why would I vote up my lover when I am not ready to "sacrifice" myself yet?

The Purple v. Tesseract vote really feels like a "50/50 the entire town hinges on it to win" type situation rn with all the.... hype around it

Comrade. If you are town you have the choice of two red checks and yet, you dont wanna go for either, now i understand you dont wanna sacrifice yourself, so why not go for Tesseract then?
You are voting me out of self preservation when there is another option.

This points heavily that tess and you are teamed, it makes no sense that you are choosing to vote a town jnvestigative in this situation.

[FM-Purple]

If Purple and Tesseract are T/T, then who do you suggest to lynch in place of Incon, Purple, and Tesseract today? I want yall to think really deeply about this.

I can never be convinced to vote out of my red checks, that is stupid. The spew from tess has been incredible and people reacting to inco flipping has been kind of outing but my checks take priority.

[FM-Purple]

Is this parasite thingy confirmed to exist?

[FM-Bizarro Pepsi]

Its SOMETHING claimed he gave it to you

ah

[FM-Bizarro Pepsi]

Submitted.

[FM-Blue Beard]

How can bonkers conf someone town?

Read the post.

[FM-Blue Beard]

Tesseract fighting so hard to stay alive has me worried. Its a 25 player game, if you get mislynched but provide info so what. Tess wants to live to use some kind of power role. How about I just Tess now?

[FM-Blue Beard]

Kill tess now*?

[FM-Blue Beard]

Mechanically Purple has two checks. Both being evil. One on Incon and the other on Tess.

If you doubt one you have to also doubt the other.

-But-

Sorting one will help sort the other as well as provide reasoning to Purples alignment.

The issue here is that Incon is a lover so killing them kills another player. That means 2 kills if we solve using their slot instead of one. This is exactly why there is resistance to their wagon because its a higher cost for the exact same benefit. Killing Incon, Tess, or Purple gives us basically the same info. So if you look at it in a cost-benifit manner its just dumb to kill Incon.

Past that Incon's slot is self resolving if they are town. Scum will kill them.
Then Ohno claimed they would kill Incon regardless. This is useful to solving Ohno.

So why in the ever living fuck are we putting the train onto Incon? Higher cost, Less benifit, Self resolving and gona die anyways.

Am I missing something here or has the whole world gone crazy?

Preaching to the choir.

THERE IS NO REASON TO DEAL WITH INCONSPICUOUS TODAY.

WE SHOULD BE VOTING TESS.

[FM-Blue Beard]

my real role and LW:

Spoiler : Role :

Alignment: Town
Role: Inspector Gadget

Factional Abilities:
Town is the uninformed majority and receives no factional abilities.

Win Condition:
Eliminate all anti-town factions.

Rolecard:
Every night, including N0 Inspector Gadget may give another player a gadget. Inspector Gadget has the following items to give out:
- a bulletproof vest
- a one shot gun
- a one shot roleblock
- a disguise (acts like a death tailor)
- a reflector (actions on that player over the next period will instead be used on another player of that players chosing)

These will refresh once all used.
Inspector Gadget will then use their powers of deduction to work out the alignment of the player they have targeted.
If they guess the alignment of the player they targeted correctly, Inspector Gadget will live for another day!
If they guess the alignment of the player wrong, Inspector Gadget will die

Spoiler : LW :

-N0, gave FM-Kitty Cat Dance a Disguise item. They can use Disguise item to change their role flip, including alignment.
-D1, I brought 4 Weak Energy Pistols for 200 gold each.
-N1, I received +200 gold for being on Eyes wagon and +238 gold for "mining operations".
-N1, I give gun to Bizzaro Pepi.
-N1, I guess Kitty's alignment as Mafia.
-If Kitty is not Mafia[exactly], I'm dead. I'm dead.
-If I'm dead, Kitty is likely not be Mafia[exactly]. Not guaranteed.

It's the worst gambit in FM history ever pulled, and I'm surely on my way to DVC now. I'd Town Read Kitty every time here if it wasn't for leaf being a thing. Speaking of, Pepsi got the gun to shoot leaf. May I have no just thrown the game, but usually I do so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Hero Syndrome is not a real thing guys. It's all paranoia. I told you my name is paranoid-schizoid King!

Thing is, I heavily Scumread leaf and slightly scum suspect Cat for things that we're not allowed to talk about.
But even so, if it wasn't for leaf - I'd be dead right now. It's because of leaf that convinced me to guess Cat's alignment to be Mafia. I'd have guessed him Town due to probabilities but looking at their ISO's simultaneously convinced me that they're wolfing together. I ended up being correct about Cat, you can imagine how certain I am of leaf being a wolf given that he was my whole reason of guessing Cat to be Mafia with him.
That's neither here nor there, Cat is a confirmed Mafia and must be lynched today, you guys can think about leaf on your own at a later day.

Btw, once you know that they're both mafia, it quickly becomes extremely obvious that the Open Wolfer, DU, is wolfing with them. Plenty of posts show that.
And before that bloody Open Wolfer even comes here to start spamming useless crap, as seems to be his game plan, let it be known that my Role is based on game facts not feedbacks.

I'd hope that Town listen to their Sheriff.
I'd hope that Town can win after I deliver 2-3 Mafia on a silver platter to them.
But I know better.

Held in this information for as long as I could, in the hopes Cat would clear more people.
Either I get modkilled for not enough posts or I suicide at night. Either way - my condition doesn't allow me to play anything atm. Only thing I can do is to wish the best of luck to you all.

Spoiler : :

@FM-Father and Sun
@FM-Mr Bones
@FM-Mr Pain
@FM-Dark Unicorn
@FM-Earless Artiste
@FM-Forsaken Bones
@FM-Purple
@FM-Bizarro Pepsi
@FM-Demonic TP
@FM-Tesseract
@FM-Comrade PickleRadish
@FM-Myopia
@FM-Blue Beard
@FM-Chad Knight
@FM-ohno
@FM-Inconspicuous Man
@FM-Mafia Bro
@FM-CBI Agen

-vote FM-Kitty Cat Dance

This makes absolutely no fucking sense after reading it twice so no. I don't buy it. Another diversion from Tesseract/Incon/Purple.

We have focused on those three and we will solve them today.

[FM-Blue Beard]

@FM-Chad Knight , @FM-Purple , @FM-ohno , @FM-Kitty Cat Dance , @FM-Earless Artiste , @FM-Demonic TP , @FM-Mr Pain

There is absolutely no reason to be voting inconspicuous first. He is supposedly a lover. We solve the Purple claim just as well with voting Tesseract without killing possibly an additional town.

If you don't vote Tess and inconspicuous has more votes then I'll just shoot within this pool before EOD.

[FM-Mafia Bro]

2 issues here.

Tess did not making that argument. The fact it may be a thing- sure. But the issue is why Tess has not considered and talked about these things in their defense

They also have not talked about how my parasite could have inverted the result of the lie detector. Its not like they don't know about it. We have talked about it quite a bit and my earlier response was to being mentioned specifically to clarify on what I know about the parasite doing.

Consider their thought process. Why would they ignore facts that suggest the read could be wrong and instead take a hard position that Purple is a lying?

Like.. If I was town with a mechanical result claim I am evil I would probably be very vocal about the potential that claim could be wrong if I knew it could be. The fact they have not even made that argument (much less fought hard to bring it up as a potential) speaks more to the mindset of someone caught who knows they were caught and instead wants to discredit the threat.

Iirc that was part of their initial argument and purple doubled (and tripled, and quadrupled, etc.) down.

[FM-Purple]

my real role and LW:

Spoiler : Role :

Alignment: Town
Role: Inspector Gadget

Factional Abilities:
Town is the uninformed majority and receives no factional abilities.

Win Condition:
Eliminate all anti-town factions.

Rolecard:
Every night, including N0 Inspector Gadget may give another player a gadget. Inspector Gadget has the following items to give out:
- a bulletproof vest
- a one shot gun
- a one shot roleblock
- a disguise (acts like a death tailor)
- a reflector (actions on that player over the next period will instead be used on another player of that players chosing)

These will refresh once all used.
Inspector Gadget will then use their powers of deduction to work out the alignment of the player they have targeted.
If they guess the alignment of the player they targeted correctly, Inspector Gadget will live for another day!
If they guess the alignment of the player wrong, Inspector Gadget will die

Spoiler : LW :

-N0, gave FM-Kitty Cat Dance a Disguise item. They can use Disguise item to change their role flip, including alignment.
-D1, I brought 4 Weak Energy Pistols for 200 gold each.
-N1, I received +200 gold for being on Eyes wagon and +238 gold for "mining operations".
-N1, I give gun to Bizzaro Pepi.
-N1, I guess Kitty's alignment as Mafia.
-If Kitty is not Mafia[exactly], I'm dead. I'm dead.
-If I'm dead, Kitty is likely not be Mafia[exactly]. Not guaranteed.

It's the worst gambit in FM history ever pulled, and I'm surely on my way to DVC now. I'd Town Read Kitty every time here if it wasn't for leaf being a thing. Speaking of, Pepsi got the gun to shoot leaf. May I have no just thrown the game, but usually I do so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Hero Syndrome is not a real thing guys. It's all paranoia. I told you my name is paranoid-schizoid King!

Thing is, I heavily Scumread leaf and slightly scum suspect Cat for things that we're not allowed to talk about.
But even so, if it wasn't for leaf - I'd be dead right now. It's because of leaf that convinced me to guess Cat's alignment to be Mafia. I'd have guessed him Town due to probabilities but looking at their ISO's simultaneously convinced me that they're wolfing together. I ended up being correct about Cat, you can imagine how certain I am of leaf being a wolf given that he was my whole reason of guessing Cat to be Mafia with him.
That's neither here nor there, Cat is a confirmed Mafia and must be lynched today, you guys can think about leaf on your own at a later day.

Btw, once you know that they're both mafia, it quickly becomes extremely obvious that the Open Wolfer, DU, is wolfing with them. Plenty of posts show that.
And before that bloody Open Wolfer even comes here to start spamming useless crap, as seems to be his game plan, let it be known that my Role is based on game facts not feedbacks.

I'd hope that Town listen to their Sheriff.
I'd hope that Town can win after I deliver 2-3 Mafia on a silver platter to them.
But I know better.

Held in this information for as long as I could, in the hopes Cat would clear more people.
Either I get modkilled for not enough posts or I suicide at night. Either way - my condition doesn't allow me to play anything atm. Only thing I can do is to wish the best of luck to you all.

Spoiler : :

@FM-Father and Sun
@FM-Mr Bones
@FM-Mr Pain
@FM-Dark Unicorn
@FM-Earless Artiste
@FM-Forsaken Bones
@FM-Purple
@FM-Bizarro Pepsi
@FM-Demonic TP
@FM-Tesseract
@FM-Comrade PickleRadish
@FM-Myopia
@FM-Blue Beard
@FM-Chad Knight
@FM-ohno
@FM-Inconspicuous Man
@FM-Mafia Bro
@FM-CBI Agen

-vote FM-Kitty Cat Dance

Spicy! What did you give to kitty?

[FM-Purple]

Wait another cop?

[FM-Myopia]

Holy shit, 11 to 12 pages. Slow the fuck down guys



because I don't wanna die? Incon might be scum or third player, but if you were scum you wouldn't dare sacrifice a fellow scum unless theres 2 scum teams.

And yes, we were lovers from the very beginning.



Out of the fucking gate?



No, I'm lovers with Inconspicous.



Not that I know of. But Blue Beard seems to reveal Mr Pain as a possible BD on N1. Check my ISO on Pain at the top of page 34.



The only time Inconspicous ever responded to me was on two occasions. On N0 when he wanted to see my role and I obliged, and in the middle of D1 when I was yelling at him why he wasn't posting as often, and he said, to quote, "i just need to do 10 posts to not get modkilled, and I have a super boring role."
Absolutely shit reasons. I wouldn't be surprised if he's scum, but I really don't want to die until we figure out that sacrificing myself is worth it.

UPDATE WHILE I WAS TYPING THIS WALL OF TEXT: he says "something very important" came up without any context, somehow unaware that purple is pushing him. I have just told him, so I expect a response from this fucker in 48 irl hours when hes prob already lynched by pruple and I die in turn.
I don't exclude the possibility of inconspicious and purple being scum team pulling a sacrificial gambit to take me down, but most likely inconspicious is either 3p or part of one scum team with purple as the other scum team. Or inconspicious is the worst townie lover ever.



Oh yeah?



Is "village" another term for town or is it a different faction?



When did you greencheck me? And why are you stuck one ingame day in the past?



if we both end up being sc2mafia mod players im gonna laugh



source: i claimed it



1238 gold max or else



1. my only "connection" to eyes is that I felt the Eyes train to be slightly unjustified.
2. how many times do i have to repeat that inconspicious is in love with me?
3. red check could mean incon is scum, or that purple is scum tryna push a 2-for-1 mislynch, or that both are scum of different teams. or purple is a genuine sheriff with some mechanical weaknesses or learned indifference such as seeing neutral = evil.



i never got any notif of bus-driving n0, but i think thats to be expected if i target someone whos being bussed, which i couldn't b/c n0. I am more likely to get a notif if I was the target of BD, but I never got a notif of bussing n0.



lol i got news for you



Shut the fuck up, youre lover, not jester.



If Tess and Incon flip scum, bonk Mafia Bro, Mr Bones, or Forsaken Bones.
If Tess flip town and Incon flip 3p/town, then 100% bonk Purple. That should be his punishment for getting 3 town votes killed.
Dont bother bonking me or Myopia in either case.

But I suggest not getting incon or tess killed. Just day-kill Purple and bonk Incon. Idk if bonking Incon would count as a lover death aka I die, but I think it might be worth the risk.



ez agenda push

why the fuck is myopia tryna farm both posts and salt? eyes on his ass.



...

Bunch of thinfs to answer
But idc tbh
You are almost a copy of my opinion
Almost


Im gonna outpost tesse btw

[FM-Blue Beard]

Spicy! What did you give to kitty?

They gave their slight scum read a death tailor.

Very bright.

[FM-Purple]

How many cops are in this game? Lol. Myopia, me and SOMETHING? So much investigation power sounds OP for us… unless it is not.
If we got this many investigations there must be equal amounts to counter it

[FM-Myopia]

Also regarding rocks.
They are 100 gold. Though if you think they are 200 I’ve got some rocks to sell you…

I had 2000 gold from game start and got 238 after day 1. That’s where 22 comes from.

Yeah my math sucked from head to tail

[FM-Blue Beard]

I have mind to shoot ITS SOMETHING for that alone. Giving a 'slight scum read' a death tailor.

Amazing stuff.

[FM-Myopia]

Did we all get 238?

Aand u claim u rwad the rheead...

[FM-Purple]

They gave their slight scum read a death tailor.

Very bright.

That does not make sense. It's like let me red check you but give you the means to flip something else when we chop you. Sounds like a gambit tbh

[FM-Father and Sun]

I have mind to shoot ITS SOMETHING for that alone. Giving a 'slight scum read' a death tailor.

Amazing stuff.

it was n0. He had no read yet

[FM-Father and Sun]

Wait another cop?

Weird death cop

[FM-Father and Sun]

That does not make sense. It's like let me red check you but give you the means to flip something else when we chop you. Sounds like a gambit tbh

IMO its quite likely to be w/w or t/w

But I think kitty always wolf off this

[FM-Purple]

it was n0. He had no read yet

Why give out a death tailor as town though?

[FM-Myopia]

I got 238 and I also got a share (200) from what Eyes had due to being on his train (so everyone who was on Eyes at EOD1 got 200 a piece, I believe). The 238 was already explained earlier to be a mathematical expression of splitting the pool (daily pool, I assume) of 5000 amongst 19 players evenly.

21 players

[FM-Father and Sun]

Why give out a death tailor as town though?

Yh thats what I've been thinking about. Redirector might be better at N0.

[FM-Purple]

IMO its quite likely to be w/w or t/w

But I think kitty always wolf off this

We chop in the pool of Kitty, Tesseract and Inco then. There you go Comrade, you got more options now.

God i wish we had day vig right now.

[FM-Purple]

Yh thats what I've been thinking about. Redirector might be better at N0.

I wouldnt send out an item on n0 with no info, that is standard procedure where i come from.

[FM-Father and Sun]

I wouldnt send out an item on n0 with no info, that is standard procedure where i come from.

Fair, especially given the risk of death.

[FM-Purple]

Has Kitty claimed getting the death tailor, if not that is sus as well.

[FM-Purple]

@FM-Chad Knight , @FM-Purple , @FM-ohno , @FM-Kitty Cat Dance , @FM-Earless Artiste , @FM-Demonic TP , @FM-Mr Pain

There is absolutely no reason to be voting inconspicuous first. He is supposedly a lover. We solve the Purple claim just as well with voting Tesseract without killing possibly an additional town.

If you don't vote Tess and inconspicuous has more votes then I'll just shoot within this pool before EOD.

Blue. Inconspicuous is a member of the triad, he is confirmed scum.

[FM-Father and Sun]

Has Kitty claimed getting the death tailor, if not that is sus as well.

Yh im coming round to w/w

[FM-Blue Beard]

Blue. Inconspicuous is a member of the triad, he is confirmed scum.

Why him over Tesseract?

[FM-Purple]

It does not make sense for town to have this many cops in a 25 player set up, that is crazy lol.

If there are and we are all town, poor scum they never had a chance against us.

[FM-Purple]

Why him over Tesseract?

Oh no, i dont mund going for tesseract, im just telling you that IT DOES MAKE SENSE TO KILL inco too. You said it does not make sense when im holding a red on both Inco and Tess

[FM-Purple]

@FM-Blue Beard i wanna make surebyou understand that Inco is confirmed scum tied to another player, it sucks for Comrade if the lover thing is true but we have to kill Inco and Tess. Equally!