S-FM 339: ?KRC, M-FM edition

[FM-Dark Unicorn]

Yo Dark Unicorn what did you do last night?

I took no action. But Chad says they saw me visit them.

I am inclined to believe them as they have not used the situation to push an agenda in any way. There is no reason for them to lie here.

[FM-Myopia]

It said something like it was a very weak ineffective weapon with a chance to kill. For all I know, it may have had 1% chance to kill. If I remember correctly, the cost was only 200 gold each. You get what you pay for.

this

[FM-Dark Unicorn]

I have to run. But at the risk of sounding like a broken record people really should look carefully at how Tesseract expressed absolute certainty about Inconspicuous' role. I feel like that is a very strong alignment indicator that reflects a fabricated thought process.

[FM-Mafia Bro]

What 2 for 1?
What are you even on? First you say non existemt things, now you assume that there is some threeso.e between 2 towns and 1 antitown? Where tf did you read that?!?
[Axe]fm-mafia bro[/axe]

.....

I have no idea what you mean lol

2 for 1 means if we kill one of the lovers they both die, hence, 2 deaths for the price of one. Like a buy one get one free deal.

It was mostly a joke, as most of my posts are

[FM-Mafia Bro]

Are you maybe just a little.... not smart?

You're maybe just a little rude and lack a sense of humor

[FM-Mafia Bro]

Hmm yeah dang man your pfp has more than 50% red of the pixels
Thats red it shows you are mafia and evil russian
Thats a scum slip lets lynch you


[Hk][/hk]
See how thats a totally bullshit reason?
SEE IT?!?
thats why im tilted, because this community always had and always will have strange brains (exchange strange with another s word)
I mean - yes. Im not fully focused on the game here, i talk about off topic things, yes, thats -ev, im trying to get better, be more focused, yes you are right, i suck at that, even in non anon games, i talk shit, not game related, thats a manko of me. Accepted, am trying my best.

But when TYPING and TYPO and GRAMMAR misstakes are considered AI IN EITHER WAY
THAN THAS FUCCING BAFFLING
ITS RVS? - OK, THEN ITS ACCEPTABLE, FUNNY META JOKE HAHA WE ALL LAUGHED.
But other than that- im mutherfuccing raging

Why are you such a rage monkey

Calm down bro it's just a game

[FM-Myopia]

Here's some info I got:

Comrade Pickleradish visited Myopia last night.

Mr Pain visited himself and ITS SOMETHING.

Eghm what did you try comrade?
Thats not very art collector like...
(Thanks for the lookout{?} Info bb)

[FM-Myopia]

I can confirm visiting Myopia. Just be forewarned that the painting allowed me to swindle a lil something.

but how the hell is Mr Pain visiting himself? Did he claim anything? I will prob need to ISO him soon.

Elaborate
I give up hope into my result, looks like i misinterpreted it

[FM-Myopia]

In a regular game I would call that a scum claim, now i've got no ideas.

now I'm just wondering why four different people decided to shoot leaf.

You can buy more than 1 item i think

[FM-Myopia]

They're softing protecting myopia

Omfg
Well thanks but that wasnt needed

[FM-Mafia Bro]

Right I'm here to live interact for a short while.

I will say I've not read much but I have seen some pretty wolfy "that was a stupid Lynch" comments

That was a stupid miskill yesterday

[FM-Mafia Bro]

Players Alive	Graveyard
@FM-Father and Sun @FM-Its SOMETHING @FM-Mr Bones @FM-Eyes @FM-Mr Pain @FM-Dark Unicorn @FM-Earless Artiste @FM-Forsaken Bones @FM-Kaleidoscope @FM-Purple @FM-Is that a leaf @FM-Bizarro Pepsi @FM-Demonic TP @FM-Tesseract @FM-Comrade PickleRadish @FM-Myopia @FM-Blue Beard @FM-Chad Knight @FM-Kitty Cat Dance @FM-ohno @FM-Inconspicuous Man @FM-Mafia Bro @FM-CBI Agent @FM-Arcade

Hello!

As part of my role I got a bunch of information but to make it useful I need to know what people did or who they visited.

I understand you may not be able to claim- but if you can- please can you tag me and let me know what you did?

it will help village greatly

I acknowledge your tag

[FM-Mafia Bro]

-vote FM-Mafia Bro

Not good energy

Nothing but good vibes here bro man

[FM-Myopia]

Mr Pain's ISO in an attempt to look for his role claim

Spoiler : First posts :

I don't sense anything noteworthy in these first three posts.

Spoiler : Forsaken v SOMETHING v Mr Pain on Day 1 :

The vote happened with the span of a minute from the preceding post which is accusing Forsaken Bones of eliminating the possibilities of 2 players (out of 25 back then) as scum.
This happened within the first like 90-100 minutes of Day 1. Random Voting Phase, sure, but to vote that quickly?

Then SOMETHING responded to the post as such:

Spoiler : SOMETHING posting :

To try and reword it in my own words for my own understanding
Forsaken didn't think that Blue Beard and I were scum.
If Pain is townie, than town shouldn't like Forsaken Bones assuming 2 possible suspects as "village" due to obvious reasons: no reason to townread them yet and village is, from my understanding, a non-town faction. Not necessarily anti-town, but non-town nonetheless.
However, scum similarly wouldn't like Forsaken declaring Blue Beard and I as not scum for 2 reasons: it allows town to narrow in on them, and there would be more protection on Blue Beard and I, meaning Mafia can not hit them without being caught, them ending up hitting the wrong target, or they themselves being killed. That is, if Blue Beard and I are both town. I know I'm town. Blue Beard? Who knows.
Mr Pain dislikes SOMETHING's response because from his POV, if bluebeard and I were scum all along, we would get to cruise under the eye of suspicion while getting others mislynched, and if bluebeard and I were townie, scum would target actually real townies. Of course not accounting for the fact that in the scenario that Blue Beard and I were town, it would be a bigger towncore, meaning less mislynches and more heat on the scum.

Mr Pain may have been on to something with SOMETHING, but his reasoning for voting SOMETHING seems to have been misplaced: its VERY unlikely for mafia to know that the only other faction is town, especially considering that the status quo of the mod is the existence of a few neutrals alongside town and mafia. If anything, he should have justified his vote with the initial scenario: that on the off-chance of scum!BB scum!Comrade-PR team, they would have greatly used that to their advantage to push mislynches and dodge the wrath of investigatives.

This all happened within the first 2-3 hours of Day 1.



Trying to solve Bizzaro based off of how many people brought Bizzaro's crab.

There's two possibilities:
1. Pain is probably assuming that the crab would be a secret signal for the mafia. Now considering that I have lover chat even in daytime, mafia chat being in daytime is likely as well, meaning he has every right to assume this. Thankfully not a specific enough guess to raise red flags about "power-hunting".
2. He's just overthinking it and no one in their right mind, not even coordinated scum, would waste money on a crab, especially 2 hours into Day 1 where theres very unlikely for anyone to have a reason to buy the crab.


Chad Knight responds with this, triggering the following conversation

Spoiler : followup :

The two seperate conversations, the one about crabs, and the other about SOMETHING, eventually merge together when SOMETHING chimes in:

Spoiler : the merging :

Of course the comment about "mafia vs town" led to a long fight that took up half of Day 1, with votes on SOMETHING and Pain being flung about, before the Town moved on to Myopia v Eyes v Purple.
Most people eventually townread Pain.

Kitty Cat Dance responds to the SOMETHING vote with this:

Spoiler : KCD convo :

Yea, I would think that KCD's "Huh." is pretty sus too. Like it didn't even have a question mark "Huh?" as if genuine confusion, it's just "Huh." as if to imply that Mr Pain is a lunatic and discredit him. I can see why Pain flew off the handle even further in response, adding more fuel to the drama.

Considering that Kitty Cat Dance is under the Eye of Suspicion of being involved in the Eyes train, the Eye is only squinting further at him.

A couple posts btwn SOMETHING and Pain later which I wont include for the sake of brevity:

Spoiler : SOMETHING v Pain pt 2 :

1 faction mafia games dont exist, unless they mean 1 anti-town faction which is what most people will read it as.

anyways, mechanics discussion may be a bit less helpful on Day 1 when there isnt many roles being claimed or confirmed in the graveyard, but it is still relevant and shouldn't be casually dismissed.

SOMETHING trying to handwave away an entire aspect of the game's mystery to push a tunnel doesn't look good on him, just saying.


At this point, votes begin climbing in on Pain's ass. This post was in response to Purple voting up Pain.

Spoiler : Reaction to Purple's vote on Pain :

Clearly reeks of desperation to redirect the heat off him and until SOMETHING. Standard defense for either a scum or a misunderstood Town Power.

Obviously I think we all get the gist of the argument btwn SOMETHING and Pain. But ISO'ing them only makes me further sure that Mr Pain is some sort of misunderstood town power. But what kind of Town Power visits himself and the one guy who he hates the most?

Bus Driver? That's the first thing I can think of due to my SC2Mafia arcade experience, but ofc ?KRC has many more roles that can allow someone to both self-visit and visit someone else.

Eghm
Well
I believe my result a lot more now

[FM-Myopia]

I got a red check.

-vote Inconspicuous Man

This is slot is not town.

Care elaborating? I donnt fully imagine the possivilite of that

[FM-Myopia]

Also, this is not an RT, I hard claim receiving the result that Inconspicuous Man is not town.

Rt whats that

[FM-Myopia]

Omfg lol how tf theres a red claim and no insta bote turbo
Can we believe purple
Why did no one post vc so we know if this is a self pres.lie from purple
Aghfjhdjdjsjsjsh world burning

[FM-Myopia]

Guys huys guys what do we know

[FM-Myopia]

I don't believe your red check but im also ok with that slot dying

?!?

[FM-Father and Sun]

So you can confirm me as town now?

No not town just not a liar

[FM-Myopia]

Oh I almost forgot, the poison dart that I had bought to kill Mr Bones with it was stolen at night start. So there is a day thief, watch out what you claim to have.

This is prob scum power

[FM-Mafia Bro]

He's chucking out reads, not explaining them/trying to get people on them. Its like he doesn't believe them

I believe them, I just don't care if you do

[FM-Mafia Bro]

?!?

It's a pretty straightforward statement

[FM-Mafia Bro]

It could be that, yes. Or it could be laziness. I'm honestly not sure. If he doesn't elaborate on his reads, though, there is no reason for him to have the benefit of doubt.

I elaborate when people ask nicely, otherwise I'm a simple bro

[FM-Myopia]

I hate to break it to you, but I could have told you Inconspicuous was not town like 48 hours ago. It was public knowledge, because it has been established he is in love with Comrade. I recommended at EOD1 to keep both of them alive. Comrade's D2 looks good (see his long post and it sounds like more info we need to gather). You sound like factional scum going for a lover chop that also gives you a dead townie in the process.

Loverings arent forced to be different alignment

[FM-Tesseract]

I am town.
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[FM-Chad Knight]

I am town.
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@FM-Purple

[FM-Mafia Bro]

IRONY

Someone call Alanis

[FM-Mafia Bro]

I visited Mafia Bro.

Hell yeah bro kegger at my place tonight broski

[FM-Mafia Bro]

Guys
If you wont stop fuccing posting every 2 seconds
I will never manage to
A. Post a reply thus making my catch up slower
B. Increasing the post amount to cath up thus making my catch up slower
So be quiet
Yes and thx

To quote a Chad man:

Irony

[FM-Chad Knight]

My new verdict on Myopia is that it is a slot that completely lacks self awareness, but is also probably not scum.

[FM-Mafia Bro]

why can't we kill myopia again?

They're probably town bro, rage monkey town with a heavy dose of irony, but still town bro

[FM-Mafia Bro]

My new verdict on Myopia is that it is a slot that completely lacks self awareness, but is also probably not scum.

Bingo bango

[FM-Mafia Bro]

I don't remember that you claimed that at anytime before

Your memory is not my issue, bro

[FM-Myopia]

You tell me, why were there no deaths last night? Inconspicuous and others may have been attacked but got healed. Heck, maybe Lover is immune to gun shots. Maybe there are no gunshots (apart from those in the shops) and more poisons and cow milk.

I will offer one reason why they may not have gone for a kill on Incons: so they can chop him during the day instead and be like yup, told you he wasn't town when he flips neutral Lover.

Thats like completw wifom
Everything is wifom

[FM-Mafia Bro]

Inconspicuous man and mafia bro are just not playing like any villager I've ever seen

Nobody's ever seen someone as good as I am, bro. Got that town game on lock

[FM-Mafia Bro]

the refusal to explain and elaborate is v frustrating though

Bro how can you say refusal to explain when you haven't asked me to explain anything, bro. Bruh. You gotta ask if you want the goods braw, otherwise I'm gonna assume you're on the same level, but all you gotta do is let me know you lagging behind and ill lift my homie up

[FM-Mafia Bro]

Correct. It is frustrating but I can think of a handful of players that it is NAI for. However, as this is an anonymous game, we do not have the benefit of meta. So I'm going to treat it as scum. If they continue to not contribute and tip over as green, then I will not consider myself to be at fault.

All you had to do was ask, bro, I'm here for my homies

[FM-Mafia Bro]

Seriously though if you want an elaboration on something just ask nicely, i tend to not explain things much by default but if you ask nicely and engage in good faith I'll explain reads and thoughts as best I can.

[FM-Mafia Bro]

I don't value Inconspicuous enough to want to lose a person I highly townread to try and solve them. I don't particularly support this.

Yeah this feels like a bad idea, if true blue is presumably town and losing two town to kill one mafia is like

Its not the worst but its also totally unnecessary when we can just do 1 for 1 instead lol

[FM-Mr Bones]

im here what did i miss

[FM-Mafia Bro]

weird opinion

No, just poorly worded

What he's saying is that he thinks leaf is town because he thinks mafia shot at them

Or at least that leaf doesn't share a mafia faction with the person who shot at them

[FM-Mafia Bro]

I watched you visit me.

I can actually believe this, though.

Didn't you claim visiting me

[FM-Chad Knight]

Didn't you claim visiting me

Correct.

[FM-Chad Knight]

Correct.

Additionally, you are the only person I visited.

[FM-Mafia Bro]

I guess passives are a thing

[FM-Myopia]

Tesseract looks very partnered with both Inco and Comrade here, more with Comrade. If Comrade flips group!scum, Tesseract is their partner.

But i got a non group scum result into comrade

[FM-Myopia]

But actually maybe we need to sacrifice comrade
You are just so fcing stupid purple
Why checking incons whose red is now making comrade a conf townie die

[FM-Bizarro Pepsi]

Players Alive	Graveyard
@FM-Father and Sun @FM-Its SOMETHING @FM-Mr Bones @FM-Eyes @FM-Mr Pain @FM-Dark Unicorn @FM-Earless Artiste @FM-Forsaken Bones @FM-Kaleidoscope @FM-Purple @FM-Is that a leaf @FM-Bizarro Pepsi @FM-Demonic TP @FM-Tesseract @FM-Comrade PickleRadish @FM-Myopia @FM-Blue Beard @FM-Chad Knight @FM-Kitty Cat Dance @FM-ohno @FM-Inconspicuous Man @FM-Mafia Bro @FM-CBI Agent @FM-Arcade

Hello!

As part of my role I got a bunch of information but to make it useful I need to know what people did or who they visited.

I understand you may not be able to claim- but if you can- please can you tag me and let me know what you did?

it will help village greatly

Press X to doubt.

[FM-Myopia]

I agree. Mafia Bro has been chainsawing me after I scum read Mr Bones, i wonder why?

Bones bones are very scummy for the frog thingy
Like bones gave and gives bones frog points