S-FM 339: ?KRC, M-FM edition

[FM-Myopia]

I am quite bothered by FM-Is that a leaf suddenly coming to Eyes's help. I apologize for my whole mixup, my whole case on not wanting to chop Eyes was a combination of how I viewed ISO strongly coupled with what I thought was their role-claim which I viewed advantageous to town. I have to scrap all of that now and it sucks that I have so little time to do it due to my own error.

I am starting to suspect Eyes and Leaf are a scum team.

Started with p1360 asking everyone else to explain why Eyes and Purple.

And then this https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...010#post960010

and this
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...020#post960020

and this
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...028#post960028

Ues fcking multiquote postfamer

[FM-Inconspicuous Man]

Man there’s a lot of lists to this thread

[FM-Purple]

Yeah sure vote out the guy who got a greencheck on you.
Unless you claim that the greencheck is wrong, that was game throwing.

What? Are you claiming you alignment checked Comrade?

[FM-Is that a leaf]

Players Alive	Graveyard
@FM-Father and Sun @FM-Its SOMETHING @FM-Mr Bones @FM-Eyes @FM-Mr Pain @FM-Dark Unicorn @FM-Earless Artiste @FM-Forsaken Bones @FM-Kaleidoscope @FM-Purple @FM-Is that a leaf @FM-Bizarro Pepsi @FM-Demonic TP @FM-Tesseract @FM-Comrade PickleRadish @FM-Myopia @FM-Blue Beard @FM-Chad Knight @FM-Kitty Cat Dance @FM-ohno @FM-Inconspicuous Man @FM-Mafia Bro @FM-CBI Agent @FM-Arcade

Hello!

As part of my role I got a bunch of information but to make it useful I need to know what people did or who they visited.

I understand you may not be able to claim- but if you can- please can you tag me and let me know what you did?

it will help village greatly

@FM-Father and Sun I don't think it can possibly hurt to tell you that I did nothing xD.

Why'd you say Mafia has a "not good energy"? I certainly don't oppose voting him, but I would like some explanations.

[FM-Father and Sun]

The implication is that Eyes was the town-equivalent of a Lover role. So it is not surprising for Inconspicuous to be a non-town Lover. But they are tied up with Comrade, whom I believe to be town. So if a better lynch exists then I would prefer lynching a potential 3P Lover tied up with a Townie as the two of them are good for 2 votes on town's behalf. If Inconspicuous is a mafia/factional Lover, then we definitely need to get them sooner or later, but they are not really going anywhere. Now, I believe you should know that I feel that a better lynch exists, right?

What is the confusion? They never got to use their role. But the role was to pick someone to fall in love with N1 and they would learn their rolecard. They could send a day msg (without revealing themselves). They could do a lookout check on their loved target. They could protect their loved target as a BG. And they could either sacrifice self or take vengeance if the loved target got lynched.

Lol this is my confusion.


I'll reread the role reveal

[FM-Inconspicuous Man]

Also what does gold do, does anybody know? It says I got it.

[FM-Myopia]

On the Myopia train, I have strong faith in Mr Pain, Chad Knight, myself obviously and to some extent Dark Unicorn (I don't remember why I trusted them, so that's a bit problematic, but anyway). As for Comrade, I have no real opinion of them, and CBI is just a low poster - the flip will help solve him no matter what, and his presence on the train does not indicate anything bad.

People on the Purple train are all null at best, scummy at worst. I don't trust that.

People on the Eyes train are suspicious except for Kitty, and Eyes themselves are a weak-ish town player who got attacked early on, not scum.

Person x being a lynch voter on person y NEVER solves person x
NEVER
LETS Assume i would have died yesterday. What would that have made implying for cbi? What would be his solve?

[FM-Father and Sun]

The implication is that Eyes was the town-equivalent of a Lover role. So it is not surprising for Inconspicuous to be a non-town Lover. But they are tied up with Comrade, whom I believe to be town. So if a better lynch exists then I would prefer lynching a potential 3P Lover tied up with a Townie as the two of them are good for 2 votes on town's behalf. If Inconspicuous is a mafia/factional Lover, then we definitely need to get them sooner or later, but they are not really going anywhere. Now, I believe you should know that I feel that a better lynch exists, right?

What is the confusion? They never got to use their role. But the role was to pick someone to fall in love with N1 and they would learn their rolecard. They could send a day msg (without revealing themselves). They could do a lookout check on their loved target. They could protect their loved target as a BG. And they could either sacrifice self or take vengeance if the loved target got lynched.

OK I've reread.

How do we know inconspicuous is a lover?

And what's the tie to Comrade?

[FM-Father and Sun]

Also what does gold do, does anybody know? It says I got it.

buy stuff

[FM-Inconspicuous Man]

buy stuff

How can I buy? Sorry for the questions I’m new to this game

[FM-Purple]

Also what does gold do, does anybody know? It says I got it.

Read the first 5-6 posts of this thread and please no more fake derps.

[FM-Father and Sun]

How can I buy? Sorry for the questions I’m new to this game

ISO lag, lag explains it.

[FM-Myopia]

On the Myopia train, I have strong faith in Mr Pain, Chad Knight, myself obviously and to some extent Dark Unicorn (I don't remember why I trusted them, so that's a bit problematic, but anyway). As for Comrade, I have no real opinion of them, and CBI is just a low poster - the flip will help solve him no matter what, and his presence on the train does not indicate anything bad.

People on the Purple train are all null at best, scummy at worst. I don't trust that.

People on the Eyes train are suspicious except for Kitty, and Eyes themselves are a weak-ish town player who got attacked early on, not scum.

This fcing wagon analysis by voterz on the train makes me bleurgh even more

[FM-Father and Sun]

@FM-Comrade PickleRadish

Wanna buy my painting

[FM-Father and Sun]

@FM-Father and Sun I don't think it can possibly hurt to tell you that I did nothing xD.

Why'd you say Mafia has a "not good energy"? I certainly don't oppose voting him, but I would like some explanations.

He's chucking out reads, not explaining them/trying to get people on them. Its like he doesn't believe them

[FM-Tesseract]

Lol this is my confusion.


I'll reread the role reveal

I noticed I made a typo in my previous response to you. My attorneys and I have correct the record in bold text below. Like, I know we should consider eliminating neutrals, but I am far more worried about group scum than some solo lover (if that's what Inconspicuous is, which I think is likely). And if this lover is part of the group scum, they are not going anywhere anyway.

The implication is that Eyes was the town-equivalent of a Lover role. So it is not surprising for Inconspicuous to be a non-town Lover. But they are tied up with Comrade, whom I believe to be town. So if a better lynch exists then I would prefer NOT lynching a potential 3P Lover tied up with a Townie as the two of them are good for 2 votes on town's behalf. If Inconspicuous is a mafia/factional Lover, then we definitely need to get them sooner or later, but they are not really going anywhere. Now, I believe you should know that I feel that a better lynch exists, right?

What is the confusion? They never got to use their role. But the role was to pick someone to fall in love with N1 and they would learn their rolecard. They could send a day msg (without revealing themselves). They could do a lookout check on their loved target. They could protect their loved target as a BG. And they could either sacrifice self or take vengeance if the loved target got lynched.

[FM-Blue Beard]

@FM-Father and Sun

I followed both Comrade Pickleradish and Mr Pain.

Pickleradish visited Myopia.

Mr Pain visited ITS SOMETHING and himself.

[FM-Myopia]

Let the record show that Pain and Tesseract both tried to encourage me not to come in as a tiebreaker. I may be a weird art-stealing role, but I am town first and foremost, and them trying to direct my vote off of Myopia is something to take notice of.

they said the same things before you voted me
Stop trying to tie me and some randos that have been voting me at that time myself
Like they both voted me and wanted the best for you to be safe and not roleblocked and then you say they wanted to safe me?
Wtf?!?

[FM-Father and Sun]

I noticed I made a typo in my previous response to you. My attorneys and I have correct the record in bold text below. Like, I know we should consider eliminating neutrals, but I am far more worried about group scum than some solo lover (if that's what Inconspicuous is, which I think is likely). And if this lover is part of the group scum, they are not going anywhere anyway.

The implication is that Eyes was the town-equivalent of a Lover role. So it is not surprising for Inconspicuous to be a non-town Lover. But they are tied up with Comrade, whom I believe to be town. So if a better lynch exists then I would prefer NOT lynching a potential 3P Lover tied up with a Townie as the two of them are good for 2 votes on town's behalf. If Inconspicuous is a mafia/factional Lover, then we definitely need to get them sooner or later, but they are not really going anywhere. Now, I believe you should know that I feel that a better lynch exists, right?

What is the confusion? They never got to use their role. But the role was to pick someone to fall in love with N1 and they would learn their rolecard. They could send a day msg (without revealing themselves). They could do a lookout check on their loved target. They could protect their loved target as a BG. And they could either sacrifice self or take vengeance if the loved target got lynched.

Ok my questions:
1) Where do eyes & comrade get tied? How?
2) Where do comrade & inconspicuous get tied? How?
3) Are we treating the red check on inconspicuous to be based on speculation on their being 3 different lover roles, each with different alignments?

[FM-Father and Sun]

@FM-Father and Sun

I followed both Comrade Pickleradish and Mr Pain.

Pickleradish visited Myopia.

Mr Pain visited ITS SOMETHING and himself.

Thank you!

[FM-Tesseract]

OK I've reread.

How do we know inconspicuous is a lover?

And what's the tie to Comrade?

Comrade revealed relatively early in D1 that they were in love with Inconspicuous. Inconspicuous also confirms it (see his D2). I believe Comrade is town, so if we lynch Inconspicuous, then Comrade will die along with them. If Inconspicuous is a neutral solo Lover, then he should be voting with Comrade (or at least per Comrade's recommendations). So if Comrade is town, as I think they are, then this counts for 2 votes on town's behalf. If we lynch one of them, then we lost those 2 votes. Yes, it is possible that Inconspicuous is not a solo Lover but more like a mafia heartbreaker, but he is not going anywhere and can be dealt with. For instance, Myopia can check them (provided it's checking actual alignment and not just "not town") or can be roleblocked or shot or lynched later on, if we have a better lynch candidate in mind for today. Lastly, Inconspicuous could be town lover, but I doubt it because Eyes was that sort of role and I doubt we would have two town-affiliated lover-type roles. Plus Purple's alleged investigation says Inconspicuous is "not town".

[FM-Myopia]

If you busdrove comrade n0 then its your time to claim
I somehow feel like smth is wrong with my actions feedback

[FM-Father and Sun]

If you busdrove comrade n0 then its your time to claim
I somehow feel like smth is wrong with my actions feedback

@FM-Myopia what actions did you make last night?

Sorry if you've done this before

[FM-Is that a leaf]

A few things pertinent to current conversation that caught my attention catching up

Mafia Bro's behavior from 1646 to 1648 was an issue.


If anything I could make a 'too scummy to be scum' argument here in that they are hard defending Myopia who was the counter train to the town flip followed by shifting to a double kill lynch potential. But holy shit this is some scummy behavior.

For the much larger issue-
Just to say it up front I had problems with Tesseract's eod1 before saying this. It absolutely felt like they were more pushing against the Myopia train than pushing for the Eyes lynch which felt very weird to me. Although I liked that they were pushing original thoughts the way they were going about it felt bad and it looked like they backtracked before the day ended like they knew it was going to end badly.
The way they intentionally post farmed and admitted it would grow their power was an issue (honestly I am kinda irked nobody else saw as a problem given they didn't want to even talk about 'how' it grew their power) Even now does nobody else have issues with this? We literally just allowed for someone to gain power and they claimed double votes with no reveal in a setup where roles are not AI. Who is to say if we just created a scum mayor or what other functions they may have?
D2 they go hard information over analysis while slipping on a confidence tell. In 1688 "Everyone knew Inconspicuous was non-town yesterday except, apparently, you."
Consider what is said here. It speaks to absolute certainty without reasoning. It also does not fit with their actions in that if they were so sure Inconspicuous is scum they should be hammering on that point while instead they are just referring to it as a counter point to some shit? Nah. Even if they want to claim some mechanical reason for this belief this is not how a town player with mechanical info that someone is scum behaves. This feels like a form of hard slip to me. I do not see a world where this thought process was made in good faith.

Someone did what I did not have the time to do with Tesseract? Amazing. I wholeheartedly agree with this post: it puts words and quotes (well, post numbers) on what I was feeling. Tesseract's EoD really did not sit right with me, and Eyes' town flip strenghtened that thought. The fact his day start was quite different and didn't even address EoD, the supposed association between me and Eyes, or really anything I was expecting is making me suspect him.

Other than that, Purple apparently has a red check on Inconspicuous Man? That will end up being informative, no matter what happens. And while I don't particularly trust Purple, I trust Inconspicuous even less, considering he hasn't provided anything about the game itself (outside of "don't kill me"). I know what it is like to have little time to play the game, and I know that it's perfectly possible to at least provide preliminary reads based on individual posts; it's really not that hard.


So, to sum it up, my scum pool right now would be:

Myopia
Tesseract (potentially linked to Myopia considering EoD1)
Inconspicuous Man

And a little further from my preoccupation but still present:

Something ("giving permission" to shoot someone who wasn't even specified properly, being on the Eyes train for reasons, having been active in the first half of D1 but not towny)
Purple (if their red check is bogus)

The rest are not necessarily towny, but they are at least not worth mentioning in my active scumreads.

[FM-Tesseract]

Ok my questions:
1) Where do eyes & comrade get tied? How?
2) Where do comrade & inconspicuous get tied? How?
3) Are we treating the red check on inconspicuous to be based on speculation on their being 3 different lover roles, each with different alignments?

1) They are not
2) See my previous post. Did you not follow what Comrade said D1 and what Inconspicuous said D2?
3) We need to better define "red check". What Purple says he got is "not town" - that does not necessarily mean a multi-player scum faction (which is my top concern), it could be a solo 3P neutral in love with Comrade, whom I believe to be town. I have not speculated about any additional lover roles (unless we cound SB16 parasite as one, but the nature of that one is unknown, whereas the others are known). We have not had anyone claim to have a 3rd lover relationship, so I am not sure where you are getting the number 3 from. But now that you mention it, if the SB16 parasitic infection (which sounds to be applied to Dark Unicorn) is a love-type relationship, then the quantity 3 makes sense and your comment about each having a different alignment could have merit. Still waiting to hear more from Unicorn on what, if anything, he has learned about his infection on N1. So far I just know we had 1 town lover-type role (Eyes) and we have a claim from Incons and Comrade about a 2nd one.

[FM-Kitty Cat Dance]

I've decided I'm just going to jump in the thread without much context.

[FM-Father and Sun]

Someone did what I did not have the time to do with Tesseract? Amazing. I wholeheartedly agree with this post: it puts words and quotes (well, post numbers) on what I was feeling. Tesseract's EoD really did not sit right with me, and Eyes' town flip strenghtened that thought. The fact his day start was quite different and didn't even address EoD, the supposed association between me and Eyes, or really anything I was expecting is making me suspect him.

Other than that, Purple apparently has a red check on Inconspicuous Man? That will end up being informative, no matter what happens. And while I don't particularly trust Purple, I trust Inconspicuous even less, considering he hasn't provided anything about the game itself (outside of "don't kill me"). I know what it is like to have little time to play the game, and I know that it's perfectly possible to at least provide preliminary reads based on individual posts; it's really not that hard.


So, to sum it up, my scum pool right now would be:

Myopia
Tesseract (potentially linked to Myopia considering EoD1)
Inconspicuous Man

And a little further from my preoccupation but still present:

Something ("giving permission" to shoot someone who wasn't even specified properly, being on the Eyes train for reasons, having been active in the first half of D1 but not towny)
Purple (if their red check is bogus)

The rest are not necessarily towny, but they are at least not worth mentioning in my active scumreads.

What it sounds like you both are saying is that Mafia Bro & Tesseract worked hard defended Myopia and that this links them all together

I'll got read eod.

Always makes sense to kill off counter wagons NIGHTMARE

I quite like Myopia's energy & analysis today.

[FM-Purple]

I noticed I made a typo in my previous response to you. My attorneys and I have correct the record in bold text below. Like, I know we should consider eliminating neutrals, but I am far more worried about group scum than some solo lover (if that's what Inconspicuous is, which I think is likely). And if this lover is part of the group scum, they are not going anywhere anyway.

The implication is that Eyes was the town-equivalent of a Lover role. So it is not surprising for Inconspicuous to be a non-town Lover. But they are tied up with Comrade, whom I believe to be town. So if a better lynch exists then I would prefer NOT lynching a potential 3P Lover tied up with a Townie as the two of them are good for 2 votes on town's behalf. If Inconspicuous is a mafia/factional Lover, then we definitely need to get them sooner or later, but they are not really going anywhere. Now, I believe you should know that I feel that a better lynch exists, right?

What is the confusion? They never got to use their role. But the role was to pick someone to fall in love with N1 and they would learn their rolecard. They could send a day msg (without revealing themselves). They could do a lookout check on their loved target. They could protect their loved target as a BG. And they could either sacrifice self or take vengeance if the loved target got lynched.

Look. My check was one shot, but i got another one today that i can clear you with.

Im an one shot lie detector and i can clear you if you post in the thread without quoting ne or anything else.

“I am town”

Post that, then i will quote that to the host privately and i will get a response as soon as they see it. Then i will let everyone know here the result.

[FM-Demonic TP]

Did you try?

I did, ISO me at that day end and you will see

[FM-Father and Sun]

1) They are not
2) See my previous post. Did you not follow what Comrade said D1 and what Inconspicuous said D2?
3) We need to better define "red check". What Purple says he got is "not town" - that does not necessarily mean a multi-player scum faction (which is my top concern), it could be a solo 3P neutral in love with Comrade, whom I believe to be town. I have not speculated about any additional lover roles (unless we cound SB16 parasite as one, but the nature of that one is unknown, whereas the others are known). We have not had anyone claim to have a 3rd lover relationship, so I am not sure where you are getting the number 3 from. But now that you mention it, if the SB16 parasitic infection (which sounds to be applied to Dark Unicorn) is a love-type relationship, then the quantity 3 makes sense and your comment about each having a different alignment could have merit. Still waiting to hear more from Unicorn on what, if anything, he has learned about his infection on N1. So far I just know we had 1 town lover-type role (Eyes) and we have a claim from Incons and Comrade about a 2nd one.

OK thanks I've just been trying to cobble it together. Think I'm there now.

I am going to go read this red check by purple

[FM-Myopia]

You have my permission to shoot him instead.
He's Mafia 100%

I can explain myself, some, but not now.
I contracted a bloody virus and didn't even catch up because of that. I'm on phone in bed now.

Which is why I'll go off 24h or so

Looks like SOMETHING invested a bunch of money into weak zappers and got bad aim.
Is the cliam real?

[FM-Kitty Cat Dance]

I noticed I made a typo in my previous response to you. My attorneys and I have correct the record in bold text below. Like, I know we should consider eliminating neutrals, but I am far more worried about group scum than some solo lover (if that's what Inconspicuous is, which I think is likely). And if this lover is part of the group scum, they are not going anywhere anyway.

The implication is that Eyes was the town-equivalent of a Lover role. So it is not surprising for Inconspicuous to be a non-town Lover. But they are tied up with Comrade, whom I believe to be town. So if a better lynch exists then I would prefer NOT lynching a potential 3P Lover tied up with a Townie as the two of them are good for 2 votes on town's behalf. If Inconspicuous is a mafia/factional Lover, then we definitely need to get them sooner or later, but they are not really going anywhere. Now, I believe you should know that I feel that a better lynch exists, right?

What is the confusion? They never got to use their role. But the role was to pick someone to fall in love with N1 and they would learn their rolecard. They could send a day msg (without revealing themselves). They could do a lookout check on their loved target. They could protect their loved target as a BG. And they could either sacrifice self or take vengeance if the loved target got lynched.

Even if inconspicuous is 3p, what exactly is stopping them from being antitown 3p?

[FM-Myopia]

I strongly doubt whoever has been shooting me is town, considering nobody even voiced suspicion against me apart from Tesseract, who voices surprise at the shots. Shooting people without discussing is not exactly pro-town.

Also, in case I end up actually dying at some point, PLEASE DO REMEMBER THAT THE EYES TRAIN WAS SUSPICIOUS AS HECK AND INDEED RESULTED IN A TOWNIE'S DEATH.

Yea yeah empty blah blah after flip trying to look good

[FM-Inconspicuous Man]

fruit is great, and I enjoy fractions

I like how you think bro, fruit is really amazing!

[FM-Purple]

1) They are not
2) See my previous post. Did you not follow what Comrade said D1 and what Inconspicuous said D2?
3) We need to better define "red check". What Purple says he got is "not town" - that does not necessarily mean a multi-player scum faction (which is my top concern), it could be a solo 3P neutral in love with Comrade, whom I believe to be town. I have not speculated about any additional lover roles (unless we cound SB16 parasite as one, but the nature of that one is unknown, whereas the others are known). We have not had anyone claim to have a 3rd lover relationship, so I am not sure where you are getting the number 3 from. But now that you mention it, if the SB16 parasitic infection (which sounds to be applied to Dark Unicorn) is a love-type relationship, then the quantity 3 makes sense and your comment about each having a different alignment could have merit. Still waiting to hear more from Unicorn on what, if anything, he has learned about his infection on N1. So far I just know we had 1 town lover-type role (Eyes) and we have a claim from Incons and Comrade about a 2nd one.

I lied. My check is more defined, i dont only just get “town not town”. Now please post “im town” so i can lie detect you before i death tunnel you, i need to make sure your point of view is from town please.

[FM-Inconspicuous Man]

Any fruit lover is a friend of mine

[FM-Myopia]

My attorneys have filed a written statement in which they would like to ask you whether you think that *I* might be the person shooting you. What do you think and why? Give us as much detail as possible.

Are YOU the shooter
My guess: yes.

[FM-Kitty Cat Dance]

Even if inconspicuous is 3p, what exactly is stopping them from being antitown 3p?

I get that comrade is tied together with them, but we can't keep them both alive under the pretense that inconspicuous might happen to be benign. If there's a red check (or anti town check) against someone, the 1-1 trade off is fine in my opinion.

[FM-Is that a leaf]

Hmm yeah dang man your pfp has more than 50% red of the pixels
Thats red it shows you are mafia and evil russian
Thats a scum slip lets lynch you


[Hk][/hk]
See how thats a totally bullshit reason?
SEE IT?!?
thats why im tilted, because this community always had and always will have strange brains (exchange strange with another s word)
I mean - yes. Im not fully focused on the game here, i talk about off topic things, yes, thats -ev, im trying to get better, be more focused, yes you are right, i suck at that, even in non anon games, i talk shit, not game related, thats a manko of me. Accepted, am trying my best.

But when TYPING and TYPO and GRAMMAR misstakes are considered AI IN EITHER WAY
THAN THAS FUCCING BAFFLING
ITS RVS? - OK, THEN ITS ACCEPTABLE, FUNNY META JOKE HAHA WE ALL LAUGHED.
But other than that- im mutherfuccing raging

Being terribly hard to read (as in hard to read letters, not hard to read your slot) is anti-town at best and scummy at worst. I can agree with saying it's just anti-town, but that still means you would have to stop :P. You're actually the single source of negativity I've seen here, and you're not a source of information. That's anti-town. If you want to be anti-town, fine, but I want you to die in that case. The EoD stuff only strenghtens this position.

[FM-Inconspicuous Man]

If you’re a fruit hater, stand up, me and town will hang you on ur balls.

[FM-Tesseract]

Even if inconspicuous is 3p, what exactly is stopping them from being antitown 3p?

Being tied up in love with a town member, which I think Comrade is. Their win condition should be tied to the person they are in love with, such as surviving and also making sure that their loved one (Comrade) survives as well. Why don't we ask the Man himself to get more info anyway? He should give more info about his role and conditions unless he is ready to get chopped.

[FM-Myopia]

i could think of a few

Same, but lets discuss this postgame

[FM-Kitty Cat Dance]

Do wish it wasn't comrade though, I like that guy.

[FM-Purple]

How do i tag peo0le here?

[FM-Myopia]

holy shit your aim SUCKS

This man.
But atleast they arent cheating

[FM-Is that a leaf]

He's chucking out reads, not explaining them/trying to get people on them. Its like he doesn't believe them

It could be that, yes. Or it could be laziness. I'm honestly not sure. If he doesn't elaborate on his reads, though, there is no reason for him to have the benefit of doubt.

[FM-Kitty Cat Dance]

Being tied up in love with a town member, which I think Comrade is. Their win condition should be tied to the person they are in love with, such as surviving and also making sure that their loved one (Comrade) survives as well. Why don't we ask the Man himself to get more info anyway? He should give more info about his role and conditions unless he is ready to get chopped.

It's just as likely that they're not benign.

You realize that if Man is a packwolf or evil 3p, you're basically giving him a free fake claim here, right?

If your plan was to just ask him about his role like you say here, you pretty much nullified anything that would do now.

I don't think you're scum, but you really didn't think this through.

[FM-Myopia]

wait a minute.

No one was night killed.

this is concerning

I think i know what happened
Either scum gambles for a crazy gambit
Or we got a tpr WHICH SHOULD NOT CLAIM YET

[FM-Kitty Cat Dance]

If inconspicuous' wincon was to keep their lover alive, you think they would've done more then literally nothing to not get shot yesterday. That's why I doubt they're benign.

[FM-Inconspicuous Man]

Why are people calling me anti town? I love green