S-FM 339: ?KRC, M-FM edition

[FM-Purple]

You tell me, why were there no deaths last night? Inconspicuous and others may have been attacked but got healed. Heck, maybe Lover is immune to gun shots. Maybe there are no gunshots (apart from those in the shops) and more poisons and cow milk.

I will offer one reason why they may not have gone for a kill on Incons: so they can chop him during the day instead and be like yup, told you he wasn't town when he flips neutral Lover.

I don't know why there are no deaths. In a role madness set up a lot of things could have happened.

Here is another theory I'm beginning to develop.

What if Comrade and Inco are mafia masons? or lovers from different scum factions, or Inco is a cult leader and Comrade is trying to save him?

I know my check is 100% true, so the reason the lovers have not died (if it is true that they are lovers( is that they cant kill their partner).

@Comrade were you lovers since the very beginning?

[FM-Purple]

Tesseract looks very partnered with both Inco and Comrade here, more with Comrade. If Comrade flips group!scum, Tesseract is their partner.

[FM-Purple]

Check their iso bro, the receipts are all there man all you have to do is open your seeing eye and the truth will set you free

Show them receipts.

[FM-Purple]

You never explained your vote.

You voted straight after saying "I gotta find where to vote"

Your not bringing receipts

It's like you don't actually want ppl to vote purple. Who has a scum read they won't show ppl?

I agree. Mafia Bro has been chainsawing me after I scum read Mr Bones, i wonder why?

[FM-Purple]

Argh guys im like panicking i dont knw anything
If purple not killed yet then

-vote fm-purple

Scummy vote.

[FM-Purple]

Like you can scumread people for strange posts, or tmi slips, or strange actions during night, or idk what

But FOR MUTHERFUCCING WRTING STYLE? FOR A TYPO AND 2 MISSPUNCTUATIONS? THATS WHAT YOU SCUMREAD ME FOR?!?!??!?!?!?!

Hmmm, why did you vote me on day 1?

[FM-Purple]

I need to rest, today was a tough day.

[FM-Dark Unicorn]

A few things pertinent to current conversation that caught my attention catching up

Mafia Bro's behavior from 1646 to 1648 was an issue.

-vote fm-comrade pickleradish

Nvm I thought you were scumreading myopia

-vote fm-purple

I do think your lover may be mafia but we can cross that bridge when we eat it

If anything I could make a 'too scummy to be scum' argument here in that they are hard defending Myopia who was the counter train to the town flip followed by shifting to a double kill lynch potential. But holy shit this is some scummy behavior.

For the much larger issue-
Just to say it up front I had problems with Tesseract's eod1 before saying this. It absolutely felt like they were more pushing against the Myopia train than pushing for the Eyes lynch which felt very weird to me. Although I liked that they were pushing original thoughts the way they were going about it felt bad and it looked like they backtracked before the day ended like they knew it was going to end badly.
The way they intentionally post farmed and admitted it would grow their power was an issue (honestly I am kinda irked nobody else saw as a problem given they didn't want to even talk about 'how' it grew their power) Even now does nobody else have issues with this? We literally just allowed for someone to gain power and they claimed double votes with no reveal in a setup where roles are not AI. Who is to say if we just created a scum mayor or what other functions they may have?
D2 they go hard information over analysis while slipping on a confidence tell. In 1688 "Everyone knew Inconspicuous was non-town yesterday except, apparently, you."
Consider what is said here. It speaks to absolute certainty without reasoning. It also does not fit with their actions in that if they were so sure Inconspicuous is scum they should be hammering on that point while instead they are just referring to it as a counter point to some shit? Nah. Even if they want to claim some mechanical reason for this belief this is not how a town player with mechanical info that someone is scum behaves. This feels like a form of hard slip to me. I do not see a world where this thought process was made in good faith.

[FM-Dark Unicorn]

For town reads Leaf was probably my top one followed by Chad Knight. Lots of original points and not afraid to push against the consensus opinions. Post 1416 is a good example of actively hunting through trains with very transparent reasoning.
Kinda sucks to skim stuff but I would support those two

[FM-Myopia]

A serial killer-like role would have no reason to be like this: it's suicidal on the long run. The only non-town faction I could see trying to pull such a play is an executioner one. I think it's unlikely, though: the case he made against Something is way too bad to be dishonestly used in the hope it will actually convince a game with over 20 players in it. Like, you don't make this up, knowing it's bullshit, and think "oh yeaaa they will all believe this". That's just not a thing lol. Hence why I think he's town.

Are bad plays possiblenonly by town?

[FM-Dark Unicorn]

A few things pertinent to current conversation that caught my attention catching up

Mafia Bro's behavior from 1646 to 1648 was an issue.


If anything I could make a 'too scummy to be scum' argument here in that they are hard defending Myopia who was the counter train to the town flip followed by shifting to a double kill lynch potential. But holy shit this is some scummy behavior.

Its been a really long day and I am sorry for this. I might just need to talk about this in the morning but expressing a belief that someone is a lover tied to non-town 'But we can talk about it later' is a real problem.
Saying you were only voting for someone because you thought they had voted someone else also has 0 town motivation. That is what people do for other reasoning to put it simply.

[FM-Mafia Bro]

Comrade is town.
Period.

Your words won't stop me, I can't read

[FM-Mafia Bro]

Its been a really long day and I am sorry for this. I might just need to talk about this in the morning but expressing a belief that someone is a lover tied to non-town 'But we can talk about it later' is a real problem.
Saying you were only voting for someone because you thought they had voted someone else also has 0 town motivation. That is what people do for other reasoning to put it simply.

It's actually fairly straightforward

When it was outed that comrade had visited myopia i thought that was outing for comrade, because I (wrongly) thought he'd been scumreading myopia today, which wouldn't make sense for him to do if hed protected myopia and if he'd roleblocked them then he presumably would have treated that like a soft red check given no mafia kill

Then I went and looked at his iso and realized I was mistaken and he actually had hard softed protecting myopia, so I moved my vote


I do think there's probably a mafia in the lover pair but given that comrade may have protection abilities I don't want to deal with it rn

[FM-Mafia Bro]

Your use of "is a real problem" is the real problem

[FM-Dark Unicorn]

Your use of "is a real problem" is the real problem

So how do you feel about what I am saying about Tesseract?
The lizard brain in me sees you two as aligned and I feel like I made a very valid point against them.

For post flip can you take a hard stance right now as to town/scum reading them?

[FM-Dark Unicorn]

So how do you feel about what I am saying about Tesseract?
The lizard brain in me sees you two as aligned and I feel like I made a very valid point against them.

For post flip can you take a hard stance right now as to town/scum reading them?

Or don't. Goodnight

[FM-Mafia Bro]

So how do you feel about what I am saying about Tesseract?
The lizard brain in me sees you two as aligned and I feel like I made a very valid point against them.

For post flip can you take a hard stance right now as to town/scum reading them?

I think it's about as relevant as your thoughts on me, which is to say not meaningful or something I care about


I'm already on record as townreading tess

[FM-Dark Unicorn]

I think it's about as relevant as your thoughts on me, which is to say not meaningful or something I care about


I'm already on record as townreading tess

So what is on record is what matters to you?

Like.. The things you say about how you view things as opposed to how you actually view them?

[FM-Mafia Bro]

So what is on record is what matters to you?

Like.. The things you say about how you view things as opposed to how you actually view them?

Depends, sometimes

The point here is that you're pressuring me to out a read/take a stance on tess when I've already done so

[FM-Myopia]

Playing mafia is like making money. The first million/d1 is always the hardest, so I start with the second million/d2

Made me cough

[FM-Myopia]

Gonna be honest, don't feel like reading the past 5 or so pages I missed. If anyone has something they want me to respond to, now's your time. Or if the last 5 pages were really important somehow, tip me off and I'll read those.

I did want to do that
But its -ev
So nahhhh amn im good teading everything of this shitle

[FM-Mr Bones]

she's playing winx club

winx fractions are great.... :/

[FM-Myopia]

It's these sort of posts thay give me herby jeebies about kitty cat.

They just stick out as awkward to me- like she's not really invested in her reads but knows she needs to make them

You call thst lazinesd

[FM-Myopia]

Mafia Bro feels more like a target for night KP then a target for elimination.

Wagonomics on a scummate are good lol
Better than a silent kill by blowdart

[FM-Myopia]

Doing a bit of dissecting here. Hey @Myopia, can you please point me to where the word triad was mentioned? I attempted to, but was unable to, find it. I checked SOD posts, signup, and setup links and cannot find the use of the word triad.

Gimme a sec.

[FM-Myopia]

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...sand+Rolecards

[FM-Myopia]

In the alignments spoiler

[FM-Father and Sun]

frog fractions are amazing

yesterdays lynch was stoopid

-vote FM-Mr Bones

[FM-Mr Bones]

-vote FM-Mr Bones

bold and brave

[FM-Demonic TP]

yesterdays lynch was stoopid

Agreed.
After Eye pointed out the Tesseract's mistake, it was obvious that they are not scum. But nothing can stop stupid train.

[FM-Myopia]

Who disguises into the infected slot? That does not make sense, since we'd know that Dark Unicorn is the target then. Or did you have some other, more elaborate, idea behind the disguiser possibility?

I have a theory. There is a secret impostor in one of our slosts, somewhere in a slot there are 2 players.
Thats how we wnt from 25 to 24 sign ups

[FM-Myopia]

Agreed.
After Eye pointed out the Tesseract's mistake, it was obvious that they are not scum. But nothing can stop stupid train.

Agree eye wqs twon and i read correctly
Yall didnt listen and boted me
I stoll dont know how that jappened

[FM-Demonic TP]

you're gonna fucking kill the mayor????

-vote FM-Its SOMETHING

He's not the mayor. It was a mechanical post and the host explained it. The anti-town faction can also get additional votes.

[FM-Demonic TP]

you did not read my post. im not here to play mafia. im here to play with stupid roles.

So you are not interested in scum-hunting.
This leaves us with two options:
1. You are scum/neutral.
2. You are a useless town player whose removal will not harm the town.

[FM-Myopia]

I find it much more likely that people are adopting unusual speech patterns or posting styles in an attempt to vary their play for entertainment. There is nothing requiring me to use an expanded vernacular, or communicate in the way that I am. I’m simply choosing to. If it becomes inconvenient, I simply won’t.

Tesseract very clearly has to communicate en mass. That’s something I’m content to humor. Mafia bro’s communication style isn’t distracting or invasive. I am willing to humor that as well.

Yes lol
I personally dont see the point in an anon game if im supposed to play as always
Never the lesss i still descend into my old style

[FM-Myopia]

I’m going to place a vote now.

-vote FM-Myopia

Any reasoning?

[FM-Myopia]

Good vote, I approve of this one as well. Myopia / Eyes are the slots I want to go immediately, there are some others that I wouldn't mind dying but they have less urgency.

Given the fact how your read on eye went, still the same opinion

[FM-Myopia]

Aged, instead of went*

[FM-Demonic TP]

Your check, if even real, is absolutely useless and wasteful. Everyone knew Inconspicuous was non-town yesterday except, apparently, you. I am more interested in catching factional scum than 3p lovers who kill my townmate if we lynch them or frog legs protecting my town's apples.

Are you trying to confuse everyone for the second time?

It was the late Eyes who had the ability to avenge her lover by killing one of those who voted and herself. And here is Inconspicuous.

[FM-Myopia]

Myopia
Mafia Bro
Inconspicuous Man
Eyes

These are all valid kills for tonight either because they're actively scummy or not doing anything worthy of keeping them alive

Yeah sure
What are YOU doing so you are worth being alive?

[FM-Myopia]

Unfortunately I haven't been following the Eyes stuff as much.

This really does feel like multiple games talking at the same time each with their own d1 conflicts lmao.

This.

[FM-ohno]

Does anyone here have 2000 Gold?

At the moment, yes

[FM-Father and Sun]

Agreed.
After Eye pointed out the Tesseract's mistake, it was obvious that they are not scum. But nothing can stop stupid train.

Did you try?

[FM-Myopia]

-vote FM-Myopia

So far the most AI thing I have seen is that hardcore overreaction when I poked them packed with ATE. I will probably just stay here for now.

Wow. Just pathetic.
Great "poke". You may be town in game, but your mindset is scum irl

[FM-Myopia]

Don't bring your context dependent analysis into my context neutral reads, bro

This
And not this.

[FM-Myopia]

Yeah bro honestly nothing says towny like screaming "DO YOU EVEN TOWN, BRO?!?! DO. YOU. EVEN. TOWN." at randos

What
This english is even worse than mine
Pls rephrase

[FM-Myopia]

I know right?

Worst fucking Lover ever. It's like he wants me to be killed.

He stays silent and I don't out him, he gets lynched and I die.
He doesn't get lynched, scum will probably shoot him tonight and I die.

So now we need 4 protectives for 4 targets, 1 of which is literally deadweight holding me hostage.

Will make wall of text soon, but I needed to get this off my chest.

Whats this?
Chad+ inconspicuous locers?!?!?

[FM-Myopia]

Where there any busdrivers n0

[FM-Myopia]

He scum slipped bro

#reading101

I do agree that purple is scummish, but slipped? Where?

[FM-Myopia]

Sounds like a two for one at the death store bro, and im in a couponing mood

What 2 for 1?
What are you even on? First you say non existemt things, now you assume that there is some threeso.e between 2 towns and 1 antitown? Where tf did you read that?!?
[Axe]fm-mafia bro[/axe]