Mr Pain's ISO in an attempt to look for his role claim
Spoiler : First posts :
I don't sense anything noteworthy in these first three posts.
Spoiler : Forsaken v SOMETHING v Mr Pain on Day 1 :
The vote happened with the span of a minute from the preceding post which is accusing Forsaken Bones of eliminating the possibilities of 2 players (out of 25 back then) as scum.
This happened within the first like 90-100 minutes of Day 1. Random Voting Phase, sure, but to vote that quickly?
Then SOMETHING responded to the post as such:
Spoiler : SOMETHING posting :
To try and reword it in my own words for my own understanding
Forsaken didn't think that Blue Beard and I were scum.
If Pain is townie, than town shouldn't like Forsaken Bones assuming 2 possible suspects as "village" due to obvious reasons: no reason to townread them yet and village is, from my understanding, a non-town faction. Not necessarily anti-town, but non-town nonetheless.
However, scum similarly wouldn't like Forsaken declaring Blue Beard and I as not scum for 2 reasons: it allows town to narrow in on them, and there would be more protection on Blue Beard and I, meaning Mafia can not hit them without being caught, them ending up hitting the wrong target, or they themselves being killed. That is, if Blue Beard and I are both town. I know I'm town. Blue Beard? Who knows.
Mr Pain dislikes SOMETHING's response because from his POV, if bluebeard and I were scum all along, we would get to cruise under the eye of suspicion while getting others mislynched, and if bluebeard and I were townie, scum would target actually real townies. Of course not accounting for the fact that in the scenario that Blue Beard and I were town, it would be a bigger towncore, meaning less mislynches and more heat on the scum.
Mr Pain may have been on to something with SOMETHING, but his reasoning for voting SOMETHING seems to have been misplaced: its VERY unlikely for mafia to know that the only other faction is town, especially considering that the status quo of the mod is the existence of a few neutrals alongside town and mafia. If anything, he should have justified his vote with the initial scenario: that on the off-chance of scum!BB scum!Comrade-PR team, they would have greatly used that to their advantage to push mislynches and dodge the wrath of investigatives.
This all happened within the first 2-3 hours of Day 1.
Spoiler : Bizzaro Crabs Post :
Trying to solve Bizzaro based off of how many people brought Bizzaro's crab.
There's two possibilities:
1. Pain is probably assuming that the crab would be a secret signal for the mafia. Now considering that I have lover chat even in daytime, mafia chat being in daytime is likely as well, meaning he has every right to assume this. Thankfully not a specific enough guess to raise red flags about "power-hunting".
2. He's just overthinking it and no one in their right mind, not even coordinated scum, would waste money on a crab, especially 2 hours into Day 1 where theres very unlikely for anyone to have a reason to buy the crab.
Chad Knight responds with this, triggering the following conversation
Spoiler : followup :
The two seperate conversations, the one about crabs, and the other about SOMETHING, eventually merge together when SOMETHING chimes in:
Spoiler : the merging :
Of course the comment about "mafia vs town" led to a long fight that took up half of Day 1, with votes on SOMETHING and Pain being flung about, before the Town moved on to Myopia v Eyes v Purple.
Most people eventually townread Pain.
Kitty Cat Dance responds to the SOMETHING vote with this:
Spoiler : KCD convo :
Yea, I would think that KCD's "Huh." is pretty sus too. Like it didn't even have a question mark "Huh?" as if genuine confusion, it's just "Huh." as if to imply that Mr Pain is a lunatic and discredit him. I can see why Pain flew off the handle even further in response, adding more fuel to the drama.
Considering that Kitty Cat Dance is under the Eye of Suspicion of being involved in the Eyes train, the Eye is only squinting further at him.
A couple posts btwn SOMETHING and Pain later which I wont include for the sake of brevity:
Spoiler : SOMETHING v Pain pt 2 :
1 faction mafia games dont exist, unless they mean 1 anti-town faction which is what most people will read it as.
anyways, mechanics discussion may be a bit less helpful on Day 1 when there isnt many roles being claimed or confirmed in the graveyard, but it is still relevant and shouldn't be casually dismissed.
SOMETHING trying to handwave away an entire aspect of the game's mystery to push a tunnel doesn't look good on him, just saying.
At this point, votes begin climbing in on Pain's ass. This post was in response to Purple voting up Pain.
Spoiler : Reaction to Purple's vote on Pain :
Clearly reeks of desperation to redirect the heat off him and until SOMETHING. Standard defense for either a scum or a misunderstood Town Power.
Obviously I think we all get the gist of the argument btwn SOMETHING and Pain. But ISO'ing them only makes me further sure that Mr Pain is some sort of misunderstood town power. But what kind of Town Power visits himself and the one guy who he hates the most?
Bus Driver? That's the first thing I can think of due to my SC2Mafia arcade experience, but ofc ?KRC has many more roles that can allow someone to both self-visit and visit someone else.