The more I think about it the more I think you are just trying to blitz the end vote. We have 48 hours and within the very first hour you want to kill conversation? Mmmm
The more I think about it the more I think you are just trying to blitz the end vote. We have 48 hours and within the very first hour you want to kill conversation? Mmmm
I also just wanna say, I pushed last hope and bisected harder than everyone else.
I'm done pleading my case to you.
Politico never should have been lynched. AI does not equal scum.
I am know very much convinced that Atlantic is scum. I will retire now to give me time to think it through. After sleeping over it i will have my mind settled.
@FM-Mid-Atlantic
I would still like to understand your thought process behind this 'test' you hung the game on.
He literally asked if he should use his ability, and I told him yes, for that exact reason
and you know what @FM-Once Upon a Town , I'm rather offended that you would insinuate I would try so hard to have two morons lynched throughout the game and have them both be my teammates.
But my issue is that a self target this should not equate to a non-cult given Hope flipped "My Little Pony Fan Club" alignment. For you to make that assumption you have to assume Hopes card was not only wrong but that they were specifically cult, and then that Once did not use any level of WIFOM in a game where you had outed as being able to bus 4 people with 4 living players.
I just do not follow your reasoning here. It does not match your confidence to stop and say 'They are lock town, Lets vote to end the game instead of talk about it because nothing will change my mind'
and you know what, @FM-Silent Night , if you're really the townie in this situation and once is by chance scum... shame on you for hardly reading yesterday.
You are not making sense. If you had just said you did not think about it I might have believed there was some world where you were derping town. But to say Hope was clearly scum thus Once could not be any kind of scum because of their targeting Hope does not add up in the slightest.
Logic jumps:
Only cult exists
Last Hope is cult (in spite of flip)
Once Upon's action is pure with no influence of BD WIFOM
You can not explain any of these 3 logic jumps because your reason for fast voting had nothing to do with your 'test' and that 'test' was just an excuse to push a fast vote.
I do not care to duke it out with you. In my view, you're obvi scum at this point for just pulling shit out of your ass.
If I was to not assume there was more than just cult, what would be the alternative? an arsonist? I have heavily believed once to be town pretty much all game, hence why I bussed him all the damn time (why I bussed him instead of Allstars tbh at the beginning). Last hope was clearly scum. CLEARLY. and if you're town and you choose to not believe that, you're just as dumb as those other two num nuts.
anyways, im out
this game has been exhausting and I have literally, LITERALLY, laid everything out on the line. believe it, don't... I can go to bed tonight knowing that I was an A1 town player this game.
Its not that I do not believe Hope was scum. Its that I do not believe your reasoning or your 'test' was a test at all.
You should have given some consideration to BD WIFOM instead of jumping to the conclusion their action made them confirmed town
The way you just assumed both that there was only 1 scum (cult) and that Hope was cult does not make any sense
And lets be real here. Yesterday you were not even willing to entertain the idea I was scum. You were even cracking jokes about how special our relationship was and how you understand that we can not be together at points in this game. To go from that to justifying that I must just be confirmed scum because.... Once checked hope? You town read me very hard this game so how can you point to past reads like yours on me did not exist?
And if you are so confident its just a cult situation we are in why are you not trying to vet us? Who is to say a conversion or a disguise could not have happened last night? Its like you have no interest in actually solving today and just want to push a position.
don't speak in that smart way that had me swoon over you. I told you im tired of this shit already! stop making me come back
okay. fine.-vote unvote
I'll return when I haven't been awake for 36 hours
I gotta say though, still heavy once lock.
ALSO, you kinda lost me yesterday there silent. your lack of attention has been kind wompwomp down hill...
As i expected, laying down in bed proved to be rather inspiring, i think i've got an epiphany and solved the game.
The last scum revealed his REAL role with the Last Hope flip. That was his deadly mistake.
That rolecard says true : he is the sole non-town role. We were all town. All except Matrix.
The n1 flip was fabricated n0, and it worked wonders : d2 was almost non-existent, nothing constructive for town.
That flip must've striked you : your role is "Wizard", their faction is "Wizard Federation". This is no coincidence : Matrix made up this "cult" role off yours. I assume feeding ideas to the über disguiser of Doom is the real purpose for the wildness of the roles, that and feeding paranoïa.
For evidence, Matrix was the first to really push for a Toons lynch.
n2 Matrix made a mistake and got himself outted. Luckily for him, he had a one-shot lynch-evading ability, and was able to survive.
His rolecard informs us that he cannot do anything else beside disguising, so the busses that night were Atlantic, the original's. Thanks to his "Perfect Information" he was able to know who was bussed and build a narrative according to that.
For evidence, the difference in tone, number of messages, confidence of Atlantic between days 1/2 & 3/4 is really striking.
n3 i ignited, but he couldn't know i'd ignite so "fast" because i had no idea we were still 6v1. He used Perfect Deception to frame me, Last Hope & Wastelander and probably literally everyone in the game but himself as "Wizard Federation". That night he also had bussing powers from killing Atlantic.
He then used my feedback to attack Last Hope and Souls, and continue pocketing me in the process.
n4 he asks me to visit so he can confirm himself as bus driver.
d5 he goes all in early in the day, trying to make us fear like we've nothing to fear anymore since the scums are dying by dozens. He tries to make me hammer you ASAP, confident that he has me in the bag.
Silent Night, you doesn't look like the type of player scum is at all. You seem distant and cautious, he is reckless and confident. You would never have revealed your real role on the Last Hope flip. Matrix would, Matrix did thus matrix is Atlantic and that means Atlantic needs to die.
-vote FM-Mid-Atlantic
Do not feel urged to hammer, i am placing this vote to remind me how strong my conviction is.
I will answer every and all questions you may have, feel free to ask.
Spoiler : previous post :
About Atlantic's confidence, i think you will agree that early D5 is even more telling.
I'm sorry, but I highly doubt Silent is going to buy the world that I am matrix.
Well, anyway, i'm really going off now. My night is already fucked...
ah, see. Now that makes sense. and in fact you pretty much just outted yourself. You see, matrix claimed to have a cop check ability that wasn't spy. @FM-Silent Night , I mentioned that to you in a private chat. You ended up with that role, I didnt.
@FM-Silent Night , Five-O refers to cop. remember?
-vote FM-Once Upon a Town
thank you for not hammering. I appreciate the time you took to out yourself.
I can literally answer any question silent asks me to prove I am still the same person they met day 1. If you choose the paint the world that I was disguised, I can easily, easily confirm I wasn't just by answering questions from conversations off the top of my head. Preferably questions about things we discussed day 1 given clearly matrix had access to our day 2 chat.
Anyway, I hope your bullshit detector goes off in the right place here Silent.
Even though you said you never shut up but you shut up yesterday, I forgive you!!!!!!!!!!!
@FM-Silent Night , while you may feel like I potentially have scum equity, with an inconstant thought process with lynch focus I hope you find my previous days to be substantial enough to believe it is a misunderstanding and you are in fact wrong here about any scummy thoughts about me.
no, even I can't paint the world that once is disguised after double checking their spelling and :'s in pretty much all important posts since day 1.
-vote unvote
this shit is fucking with my head.
you know, it's interesting that you say this. because I just double checked, and realized you actually never claimed the name of your abilities day 1. Interesting coincidence your roles match every scum role that has been flipped.
GG, you definitely duped me. Relationship clearly over.
@FM-Once Upon a Town , I am not disguised. But that does not matter now cause I'm going to place my vote, and silent is going to come back and hammer me.
-vote FM-Silent Night
anyway, im done with this bullshit game. if bisected was truly town I have literally zero regrets. 0/10 play.
I honestly want to give it some thought.
A lot of what Once said makes sense to me in some ways. If that role card was real I could see a 10v1 with 2 lives and it somewhat fits what we have seen but holy shit that is a big evil. Maybe they were forced to reveal their role and threw in trolling before and after doing so to hide what they could or maybe they were just throwing it out in our face. The fact Wilders role looked untouched could fit their terminate ability while Bisected's flip looks like all out trolling.
Or it could all be trolling. I duno.
@FM-Mid-Atlantic For what its worth I am not just going to fast hammer you. I will think about some things to ask you but Matrix did have access to all chats so I would rather have rapid exchanges when you are around. Otherwise information could be referenced although this runs into some issues I won't ramble about. There is plenty of time for us to consider all the angles in this situation and I do not see the need to rush it.
Although you gotta put yourself in my shoes here and ask why wouldn't Once Upon a Town hammer me if they were evil and had the win? Why wouldn't I hammer you? Analysis aside I am not sure what level of reasoning could make me overlook these facts.
I only came here for the pineapples and clementines.
The greatest tragedy of Mafia 2.0 is that there was no Durian
-vote FM-Mid-Atlantic