S-FM 337: Play at Your Own Risk

[FM-Politico]

I'm so sorry, i couldnt resist making such a disapointing buildup... I couldnt ! Not day 1 !
Anyway, i was asked what were my favourite roles, and i do enjoy citizens because they force you to focus on the social aspect of the game rather than the mechanical one.
I was expecting really weird hand-tailored roles and didn't think much about the roles i answered. Maybe i'll regret it later...

fair i guess. i will have to dissagree, but my ToS background makes me biased on this. My way to look at it is the more tools your role gives you to work with your social reads the better. Wich is why town killing roles will aways be my favorites, followed by investigative

[FM-Once Upon a Town]

this is just an opinion btw, I am not advocating/pushing that last hope is scum/even scummy. I'm just saying... not an attitude I look as townie vibes

You've lost me there... What did Last Hope do ? What's the "large leap" there ?

[FM-Wilder Wastelander]

One of the free roles i answered was Citizen.

I think there are no citizens in this game.

[FM-Politico]

I think there are no citizens in this game.

welcome back.

wich doomsday profecies do you have for us today

[FM-Mid-Atlantic]

You've lost me there... What did Last Hope do ? What's the "large leap" there ?

He said if we survive past the earlier nights than we're likely to be scum given cop claim and outted townie, and we should be eliminated. That's a large leap imo. There can be protects, there can be mechanics we don't know about, and scum can play WIFOM. saying this happened, therefore this must happen, is not a thought process I dig in long form mafia

[FM-Once Upon a Town]

fair i guess. i will have to dissagree, but my ToS background makes me biased on this. My way to look at it is the more tools your role gives you to work with your social reads the better. Wich is why town killing roles will aways be my favorites, followed by investigative

I assume you've got both killing and investigative roles in your list, then. I scrolled through your iso quickly and didnt see your answer to the complexity question, so i think it's about time your start to give us your answers.

I think there are no citizens in this game.

Well, yes, i think so too. That's why i felt i could safely reveal that information.

[FM-Wilder Wastelander]

welcome back.

wich doomsday profecies do you have for us today

My role is not an oracle.

Sorry.

[FM-Politico]

I assume you've got both killing and investigative roles in your list, then. I scrolled through your iso quickly and didnt see your answer to the complexity question, so i think it's about time your start to give us your answers.



Well, yes, i think so too. That's why i felt i could safely reveal that information.

about that....

i dont know what i picked

[FM-Politico]

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because of this

[FM-Politico]

hopefully i will get a host answer soon

[FM-Once Upon a Town]

He said if we survive past the earlier nights than we're likely to be scum given cop claim and outted townie, and we should be eliminated. That's a large leap imo. There can be protects, there can be mechanics we don't know about, and scum can play WIFOM. saying this happened, therefore this must happen, is not a thought process I dig in long form mafia

True, true, my bad : i mixed up gravity and Last Hope. I agree its a little too naive or simplified. I too had mixed feelings about these posts

[FM-Mid-Atlantic]

about that....

i dont know what i picked

I was just about to say. given the nature of your slot, I think it would be hard for you to answer these hard questions lol

[FM-Once Upon a Town]

Well... duh that makes sense.
That's kind of a low blow, though. Here's to hoping your slot picked citizen thrice

[FM-Wilder Wastelander]

While i struggle to see their overly aggressive and cocky posture coming from scum this early, since that just makes people not really like them

In my experience, town players tend to use aggressive playstyle more often then scums.

[FM-Politico]

In my experience, town players tend to use aggressive playstyle more often then scums.

yes. thats what i meant by that. but besides this specific thing, i dont have anything else to make me belive they are town

[FM-Politico]

Well... duh that makes sense.
That's kind of a low blow, though. Here's to hoping your slot picked citizen thrice

i will say im decently satisfied with my role. Not exactly my favorite type, but still a decent fit.

[FM-Once Upon a Town]

i will say im decently satisfied with my role. Not exactly my favorite type, but still a decent fit.

wdym decent fit ? Fit for what/who ?

[FM-Looney Toons]

@FM-Once Upon a Town we can see you reading the thread, get in here

ditto for @FM-Mid-Antlantic

Everyone should turn off the viewing of the thread settings for this reason.

[FM-Looney Toons]

I find it extremely strange that Gravity Falls revealed their check so early in d1. It isn't like they are their target were at risk of being lynched. Why reveal that info and put a huge target on your back?

[FM-Bisected Souls]

No. It just is a positive for me from what my role card says.

@FM-Matrix6
Who's role card was that you quoted? I am assuming you just attempted to steal a fruit vendors abilities?

Kinda odd nobody has poked this. I guess everyone might be too busy in their chats? I have reason to believe there are at least 5 people active in chats right now.

Read this or risk getting modkilled.

Example Town Rolecard:

Spoiler : Town Rolecard :

Alignment: Town
Role: Fruit Tycoon

Factional Abilities:
Town is the uninformed majority and receives no factional abilities. Use your vote and your role to win!

Role Abilities:
Stockpile Fruit
(Passive)
You start the game with 0 fruit. Gain 2 fruit at the start of each night.

Collect Fruit
(Day or Night action, Multitaskable, Unlimited Use)
Quote a post made by another player in which the name of a fruit is posted. Add 1 fruit to your fruit stockpile.
Previously quoted posts cannot be reused.

Give Fruit
(Multitaskable, Unlimited Use)
Target another player to give them a random piece of fruit from your stockpile.

Note: Because your action is multi-taskable and unlimited use, you may give as many fruit as you have available in your stockpile, including multiple fruit to the same player.

Quote to Steal!
(1-Shot, Passive)
If this rolecard is posted publicly in the thread, then the first player to quote this rolecard with the message "The greatest tragedy of Mafia 2.0 is that it doesn't have Fruit Vendor" steals all of its abilities and adds them to their rolecard. This ability is consumed on use and is not added.

You saw it, @Lag .
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[FM-Bisected Souls]

Hello there!

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[FM-Bisected Souls]

I will tell you in.. a few hours

Have we got an answer yet?
No?
That is scum slipping. Matrix answered Mid in scum chat.
Matrix/Mid w/w outed
Who do we lynch first?

[FM-Bisected Souls]

its ok but u gotta eat ur vegetables and stuff. when was last time u ate some fruit?

A few hours ago when I ate some blueberries and sandwiches

Oh, and high pulp orange juice

I bet the last fruit you had was a nice banana

blueberries are awesome i tried to get some on sale for 18 oz at 3.99 but piece of crap store cheated me and i ended up getting...
ORGANIC blueberries same weight! PROFIT!!!!

totally support HIGH PULP! i had to get 2 of em for this coupon i had to buy 5 items to get $5 off lol and they were out of a 3rd orange juice so she just gave me 5 off anyways!!!

This is so stupid
So its probably a role gimmick
Matrix/all/mid scum team
Who do we lynch first town?

[FM-Bisected Souls]

So of all the players who have checked in so far, All Stars and Matrix feel like townies vibing in thread.
Looney Tunes doesn't give me much, so they go to the null pile.
Wilder didn't feel memorable so they go to the null-scummish pile.

So from all people (10, without last 9) that posted in the thread, he remembered only 4.
If last or the 5 unmentioned flip scum, hes chopped next

[FM-Once Upon a Town]

So from all people (10, without last 9) that posted in the thread, he remembered only 4.
If last or the 5 unmentioned flip scum, hes chopped next

Tbh i dont think either you or politico had talked at that point. So he remembered half of town, doesnt seem so bad

[FM-Bisected Souls]

Don't worry. I'll get around to making reads on Town,(...)

Tmi scum slip.
Lets look at the different possible scenarios and give them ratings.
4v7 set-up? 1%
2v2v7 multiball? 2%
Everyone is scum and lags a liar in the PMs? 97%

[FM-Wilder Wastelander]

Intruder alert!

[FM-Once Upon a Town]

Ahem, let's move on, shall we ?
Finished catching up yet or do you still have more ghosts to get ?

[FM-Once Upon a Town]

Tmi scum slip.
Lets look at the different possible scenarios and give them ratings.
4v7 set-up? 1%
2v2v7 multiball? 2%
Everyone is scum and lags a liar in the PMs? 97%

uh... what ?

[FM-Wilder Wastelander]

Tmi scum slip.
Lets look at the different possible scenarios and give them ratings.
4v7 set-up? 1%
2v2v7 multiball? 2%
Everyone is scum and lags a liar in the PMs? 97%

Maybe we have no mafia, but cult os something like.

But I am sure about town-aligned majority.

[FM-Bisected Souls]

What we can reasonably assume:

The selected complexity voiced to the host influenced roles given
The voiced favorite roles 'sometimes' influenced roles given (Had no effect for me)
Multiple chats exist and multiple roles/mechanics exist that either create chats or join them
Votes do more than count towards a lynch and may be a design decision given they are mandatory

Small progress but its something. Its interesting to see who has participated in topics and who has been willing to talk about what.

The 3 roles I submitted were a modified IC or Mayor that reveals to the town as town but are evil, A role that turns a player inert while investigating as evil but has night immunity, and a role that brings a player back from the dead with a new role and/or alignment.

I agree
Thats what we know, yet

[FM-Bisected Souls]

Mid atlantic is lock town just so y'all know. i cop checked them.

A bomber cop checking?
This starts getting spicy

[FM-Gravity Falls]

Very good. This is what I had intended. My claim has started up some nice discussion.

That is also another reason I claimed so early. To give people something to talk about.

[FM-Bisected Souls]

(n0 cop check)

Night zero indeed exists.
This maybe true from gravity

[FM-Looney Toons]

Very good. This is what I had intended. My claim has started up some nice discussion.

That is also another reason I claimed so early. To give people something to talk about.

Is it the right conversation? Seems to have brought a lot of negative attention to you and your claimee.

[FM-Wilder Wastelander]

Ok, I trust Gravity Falls.

I excluded Mid-Atlantic from my susp list.

[FM-Once Upon a Town]

I like this post from gravity, too. So i'll try offer a somewhat serious wagon and see what comes out of it

-vote FM-Last Hope

[FM-Bisected Souls]

Which is why I'm not interesting in wagoning Gravity or Atlantic for that matter today. As they probably get night killed early if Gravity is telling the truth, or they survive when they shouldn't and we eliminate them.

Wow i didnt expect that.
You build this on complete WIFOM
every Scum wont kill the almost conf town, so town asks "why are they still alive" and proceeds into misslynching them.
Scum has information, they already now whos town
I mean, this is so basic Wifom that it belongs to the trash can

[FM-Mid-Atlantic]

alright, I'm out for a few. I have a dentist appointment. hopefully more have checked in for this portion of the day by the time I return.

[FM-Bisected Souls]

Chewing on your reaction for a few moments I feel like the situation should not just be dodged with an expectation of it resolving itself and given your active position in the town an opinion on the situation regardless of what the resolution should be would help keep the town on the same page.

What? Did you just say?!

[FM-Wilder Wastelander]

You build this on complete WIFOM
every Scum wont kill the almost conf town, so town asks "why are they still alive" and proceeds into misslynching them.

Agreed.

No reason for mafia to attack "confirmed" town.

Doctor/Lookout or similar roles probably in game.

But if scum faction is cult-like, converting trusted player is solid.

[FM-Wilder Wastelander]

Bisected Souls getting town points in my eyes.

[FM-Bisected Souls]

Tmi scum slip.
Lets look at the different possible scenarios and give them ratings.
4v7 set-up? 1%
2v2v7 multiball? 2%
Everyone is scum and lags a liar in the PMs? 97%

This was a joke
Obviously... ahem

[FM-Bisected Souls]

Agreed.

No reason for mafia to attack "confirmed" town.

Doctor/Lookout or similar roles probably in game.

But if scum faction is cult-like, converting trusted player is solid.

Irgh yes cult.
Lets agree on smth mechanic wise
2 killing factions are impossible in a 11p setup
1 scum faction +1 cult faction is kinda too deadly
Lag spent much time on this game, she doesnt want it to end in 3 days
Soo either scum or cultism? Is that true

[FM-Bisected Souls]

Also: i have a little plea.
Lets just call players by the first word or the noun in their name, and not by avatars or similar

[FM-Once Upon a Town]

Irgh yes cult.
Lets agree on smth mechanic wise
2 killing factions are impossible in a 11p setup
1 scum faction +1 cult faction is kinda too deadly
Lag spent much time on this game, she doesnt want it to end in 3 days
Soo either scum or cultism? Is that true

Fair point. I think there's a world where there is no real non-town faction but rather multiple standalone players. This is made more likely IMO because of the (alleged) abundance of extra chats hinted at by Silent (Night), meaning that multiple players that share untowny goals but no "regular" night chat could still potentially coordinate.

[FM-Bisected Souls]

Fair point. I think there's a world where there is no real non-town faction but rather multiple standalone players. This is made more likely IMO because of the (alleged) abundance of extra chats hinted at by Silent (Night), meaning that multiple players that share untowny goals but no "regular" night chat could still potentially coordinate.

My pm mentions the existence of factional chats
No thats not me open wolfing

[FM-Once Upon a Town]

My pm mentions the existence of factional chats
No thats not me open wolfing

Yes, mine too : "Private + Factional chats", but i read that and/or. I think its completely in lag's bastard!host-range.

[FM-Wilder Wastelander]

Town-aligned faction chats possible too.

Masons, for example.

Also jailor's night chat.

[FM-Once Upon a Town]

Town-aligned faction chats possible too.

Masons, for example.

Also jailor's night chat.

Jailors isnt a "factional chat" tho.