S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II

[Voss]

Spoiler : current d2 vote progression :

Town
Stealth
Renegade
MM
PQRnHack

Town lean
Lag
Oliverz
Gikkle

Can go
Loldebite
Paopan

Analsyis before I start reading
MM - Already did vote analysis on him already
Ren is acting like the previous time I played town with him, which was like almost flying under the radar. He’s flying a little above that, but still generally under the radar. But I think it’s because he’s afraid of his vote power, and not actually some scum coasting.
Stealth - we vibing so hard. Going to read day 2 and hope to find more pro town stuff here to further justify this slot so it’s not just gut read (I actually just don’t have the notes to remember why it’s more than a gut read)
PQRNhack started in town slot, but his day 2 is not good. Super defensive and spammy and also advocating for roles and thunder dome makes me not like this slot anymore. So going to adjust
Lag/Oliverz - tossup with oliverz. I feel like there could be a scum here, but maybe this ideas was planted by someone else.
Gikkle - has some shady fucking posts, and some really good posts. Tough fucking slot to figure out.
Loldebite - PoE and not very many memorable posts seem to make this slot a soft scum lean
Paopan - can still be voted out lmao


Town
Stealth
Renegade
MM
PQRnHack

Town lean
Lag
Oliverz
Gikkle

Can go
Loldebite
Paopan

That's absurd! Repeating for the 3rd time: I voted two times, first was opening troll vote on Renegade as Mayor; 2nd was Frinckles when I said I was placing a serious vote. Gikkle had their first troll/random vote on Frinckles and so I asked Gikkle if that persistent vote (which stuck since random phase) was good lynch or not (i.e., did the initially-random vote convert to a serious vote - and answer from Gikkle was essentially yes). In part, I wanted to check Gikkle's commitment there so they didnt skirt by with a random vote that stuck around.

Based off this, I kinda have trouble seeing a scum make this post. It really shows consistent thought process. But it’s also makes me blur the ranking with gikkle. Pqrn made a lot of bad spammy posts today. I’d say paopan is a scum, with lag/oliverz being next likely scum, and then a 3rd between gikkle/loldebite/pqrn.

Town
Stealth
Renegade
MM

Town lean
Gikkle/Loldebite/PQRnHack

Scum lean
Lag/Oliverz

Can go
Paopan

this Is 1to1 pqr scum play in 334.
he c5aims that "guillo was killed to frame his scumlist" and takes this as an excuse why he is town and any wagon on him has scum equity.
AFTERWARDS the very next sentence he proceeds into scumreading me and lag, while trusting voss.
double standarts. Scum flip

I read this a few times, but can’t really agree. PQRN trusts me in this moment, and thinks the other train was bad. It makes sense to not trust lag/olvierz from pqrn’s PoV

PQRN is also not allied with oliverz here. Changing oliverz down a notch, and pqrn up a notch

Town
Stealth
Renegade
MM

Town lean
PQRnHack
Gikkle/Loldebite

Scum lean
Lag
Oliverz

Can go
Paopan

Things have finally fallen into place enough that I think I can put together an organized list. Let this stand the test of time. I'll put it nice and neat, and right here underneath my post explaining why PQ is scum.

SCUM
Lag. 2 weak days in a row, I don't understand anything he's saying today. I don't see anything ACTIVELY scummy coming from his slot but this guy is just putting off so many bad vibes and I cannot see things from his perspective.
PQRnHack. Caught in 2 TMI slips. Currently in a garbage flow. See above.

SCUM LEAN
Oliver. A slot that has been largely incoherent. I need to go back and re-analyze oliver again but my gut is pointing me here.
Pao. This dude is fucking crazy. If/when Lag flips scum he moves up into the red category.
Loldebite. I almost left him off this list. I have to go back and re-analyze Loldebite as well.

TOWN LEAN
Gikkle. The only slot with poor voting that I actively think is town. They explain their thought process and it appears very organic. I'm reserved because I think this player could be good enough to be red here, but I also don't think they are.
Renegade. I always scumread Renegade, but this game I scumread him less than I normally do, which means he's probably town.

TOWN CORE
Voss. Very organic thought process, we think alike on many topics. Voss is very solidly town here. If you are going to pursue a deep-wolf candidate from the frinckles train, pursue Gikkle instead. I will die on this hill.
MM. I have yet to understand why this player has gotten any flak at all. We are currently mindmelding on pretty much everything.

I am of course super-duper-always-town, which transcends the tier list, so I am notably absent.

It’s like stealth can see into my fucking brain. Votes remain unchanged.

Although not necessarily alignmnent-indicative, the fact that oliver acted quick to unvote here (even though my congressman claim is also not alignment indicative) and outed himself as the other Congressman earns pretty solid townpoints for the time being.

I buy this. I think I’m going to put oliverz in the slot of just bad town. However, pqrn starts the role claim, for like nothing, but I guess I don’t know what the vote counts are at this point FUCK.

I’m pretty convinced Lag is scum here.

Also this post. Actually a lot of posts around this don’t make me see Lag as town. I literally can’t fathom Lag as town.

Not busy today, so I'll be here, also these wagons are absolutely terrible.

Town
Stealth
Renegade
MM

Town lean
Oliverz
PQRnHack
Gikkle/Loldebite

Scum lean
Lag

Can go
Paopan

ok im addicted
i cant break

This is another post on why I can’t believe oliverz is scum. What 5th game scum says this? none.

@Gikkle
sorry, i won't have time to finish doing this tomorrow, as I need to work and probably stay up to date in the chat.

Also, here are some other posts that I thought were some noteworthy posts

Spoiler : noteworthy posts :

PQRN likes Gikkle’s content analysis, but not the vote on MM? I wonder what this means. Does it mean that they don’t like the conclusion, but like the town thought process?

I also don’t think PQRN and Lag are scummates

Based on this

Why Frinckles?

I don’t think oliverz is scum with pqrn based on this.

this Is 1to1 pqr scum play in 334.
he c5aims that "guillo was killed to frame his scumlist" and takes this as an excuse why he is town and any wagon on him has scum equity.
AFTERWARDS the very next sentence he proceeds into scumreading me and lag, while trusting voss.
double standarts. Scum flip

As for the medic : that assumption is what doomed town in 334, as it was the sole basis for Light's blind trust of Mike. So that is a completely false.
As for Judge/Gov : scum trying to look towny would also not use their power, WIFOM, so here again nothing conclusive. Despite my trolly claims about paopan.
As for state attorney : the vote on D1's counter-wagon is not inherently scummy, it could very well have been made by town.

Your ideas are becoming worse by the hour.

Nothing other than your perception of balance points towards 2 PRs. Why not 1 PR + congressman + a voter (mafiosi) ? Since the PRs are shit for town until a scum is outted, that doesnt sound impossible to me.

I can’t see scum Loldebite post about judge/gov like this as scum, unless he’s scum partners with mm or sb, and that would make me sad.

If lag doesn’t flip scum, I’d probably have to look at MM and SB, but I’m not trying to set up d3s Lynch.

I buy into the theory that the SA is scum and the Lag vote is a misdirection.

fuck.