@Loldebite RB jmw, i believe he is scum with Gikkle when s/he flips.
@Loldebite RB jmw, i believe he is scum with Gikkle when s/he flips.
Get ownd, you dun fuked up. It's over Gikkle get over it.
Town, we must make a decision:
a) insufficient votes and Oberon jails as either Mafia or Town
b) Gikkle must go. Im sure Gikkle is scum and jmw is my next suspect so i need LY and prots on me.
If Paopan was truly Town for the first time, I would at least expect him to be way more active.
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Auwt
Looks like I got dropped into a ghostly hauntly Town in the west.
Good night or whatever time it might be, folks.
GD Vigi Vet scum team = odds?
I am confident Gikkle is scum. Sorry but not sorry. REESES.
We confirm Gikkle as scum tonight then we know the rest of the puzzle. Ez pz.
@Gikkle how does it feel to be a scumbag?
TOWN PLS WAKE UP. We need to coordinate here. We either let Oberon do her thing or we must pile 8 votes on whom I believe is SCUM GIKKLE. Do not sit on your hands, we need to act to win this.
His thing. And yeah for the record I am either jailing Gikkle
or Yagami tonight. One of them is dying either today via lynch or tonight by my hands.
Im not sure about gikkle tbh
Praise the Lord!
Is this a meta read without ever having seen Paopan's town meta?
I wrote a program to simulate this, the odds of maf having any three specific roles in one rand is 1.4%. Odds get lower when you assume Lag takes the most balanced setup so the other two setups have to be that bad or worse.
@luona ? Hello?
you are very quiet, could you give us some reads?
Praise the Lord!
Looks Like Im Still Winning The Lynch Poll.. My Satisfaction Couldnt Be More Abundant..
Chance of not hiting the right role
10/13 * 10/12 * 10/11 = 0.58
so chance of hiting is 1 - 0.58 = 0.42
Praise the Lord!
I Have A Question.. Why Would You Guys Wanna Off The Town Lookout Day 1... Seems Kinda Like Shooting Yourself In The Leg...
Why? I like it too, but your statement doesn't exactly enlighten us.
You're never gonna townread me with confidence anymore, are you. Lol.
I'm really not sure what you're seeing about Oberon. He looks genuine imo, the quick vote switch pointed out by someone (I think jmw) being a good tell of this.
I don't really have an opinion on Auwt, but please... stop linking roles and alignments............
Definetly agreed about Light, though.
Havent Been Smoking Enough Wacky Tobaccy
Also When Every Role Is Confirmed Little Less Paranoia.. Only Thing Is To Find 4 Scum.. Should Be Easy Enough.. Look At What PPL Are Saiyan And Not Saiyan.. IMO Trying To Coordinate Role Actions During The Day Looks Scummy To Me.. Because If You Did That.. The Scum Would Know Exactly Each Action And Beable To Plan Around That... I Have Who Im Watching Boiled Down Ta 3 PPL As Of Now.. And No Im Not Saiyan Who It Is..
Honestly Thinking About It.. Anyone That Was Recommending That Should Be Our First Priority Of Lynches..
Gikkle From What Ive Read Has Been The Only One To Suggest That Course Of Action..
So Scum From My POV Gikkle And Oberon
So do lowercase characters...
Is this really your only reason for scumreading Auwt and Paopan, or are you trolling? (For the record, it's totally meaningless, and I think you should know that already... right?)
I was kinda showing you how to do it hehe. You can just check the code I used by quoting my post and looking at what is in it. The red name is because I have the admin usergroup though, so I'm afraid that's a little harder :P
I don't see anything wrong with what you quoted tbh, except maybe it's a little weak - but so are literally all other reads on early D1, so it's not scummy. Also, I don't get how "don't really like mike off of a skim" can be better than... anything, it's an unbacked statement lol. Plus, why would a better reasoning be indicative of scum shading a partner (so basically bussing)? I am unimpressed here, and am sticking to my read on jmw. You do seem to be actually trying, though, albeit you look a little confused, so I don't think you're scum for it :P.
I agree that votes should follow words, though. Also, I'm not sure why his vote is now on Oberon, but that may be because I'm not caught up (and sorry, I'm having a bit of a hard time being online significantly enough atm).
We're against skipping the day right?
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I mean reaching majority with 13 people seems somewhat difficult. I'm inclined to sheep Auwt or PQR.
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you continually asking him questions seemed like u thought he was scummy sorry :-(
i thought if someone went into a deep convo with someone it meant that one of them suses the other..? is that not it?
show how ur town then...
anyone can say theyre town, but u just feel weird to me iuerhfd
i dont rlly townread you so i liked the vote on you the most when i was looking at the votes.
gib ur thoughts..
itll be helpful i swear!
whats helpful about not disclosing the reads you have in your opinion..? i thought having reads is helpful when others can help you better them?
i.. had thoughts about this... but i forgot them.. i agree with the first part of this tho.
can u help me, im confused what ur saying here... "we control vigi~jmw kill" when did gikkle say something like this..? i dont remember.
why are u worried about how trusted u r..? if u wanna do a rb go for it imo, i trust if ur town ull make a good decision.
lynching someone with low post count feels a bit mean imo.
closer to the start of this phase, i had a slight townread on gikkle, but then he got a bit more inactive and that died down.
he still isn't my preferred lynch though.
ccan i ask a weird question...
im sorry, ive been busy all day and im kinda tired.
is there anyone specific u wanna know my reads on?
making me cry wtf
yeah its a weak reason, but from what i understand.. his original vote was pure random, so this seemed to me like a reason a bit above pure random?
if we have to, i dont mind consolidating on oberon
I don't think those odds are right but I'm not smart enough to know how these odds should actually be calculated
(Too hard for me to figure out which is why I just ran a simulation instead of finding the formula for the odds)
Don't know how to unvote so I'm using Oberon as my unvote button. He doesn't seem to mind it either.
I don't usually like being a contrarian but I'm gonna be one this time.
Unless someone can give me a good case on Light being scum I'm gonna fight this wagon, because he's had zero defenders and is top target. (He's not defending himself either, which no matter his alignment isn't great). I understand his thought process behind townreading a sheriff has bad logic, but surely there has to be some more behind this Light push?
If this were a smaller game I wouldn't be as worried, but there are 4 bandits (So in a Scum!Light world, he has 3 buddies) and I can't see any attempt to move things away from Light (aside from this post I am making right now). Do we really think scum would just drop Light like this?
Also, if anyone has any of Light's past games they could link to as a meta reference (especially ones with a similar setup) I would appreciate it. Will be a bit busy throughout Thursday but will have time for light reading (heh).
Small List Of Games Ive Played..
@jmw
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...gh+Noon+Saloon
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...lent-Night-14P
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...48-The-Smith-s
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...e-Mid-Atlantic
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...-(13p-Ongoing)
Auwt. I think I know what you are doing if it is what I think you are doing that is townie. Baiting people to vote me to try and catch scum. But no one took the bait. But on the other hand you could be scum testing the waters see if you can get any town to vote on it as well. dang Awut you don’t make it easy to read you. From you it is not AI. You could do this exact same as mafia or Town. I am not lynching you today but the flip or flips tonight and today should answer a lot.
Town we still have time. Before we decide on a lynch for this day but we do need to lynch. I am not willing to lynch Oberon today. He is a good check tonight. If I can confirm him as town or mafia. That can help us. BG do not say who you are saving tonight make mafia scared. Doc same goes for you CD same goes for you Escort same. Less info mafia has the better chance we have to catch mafia off guard tonight.
Do Not open this spoiler under any condition!!!!!!!
Spoiler : :
Yes, skipping day is bad and should be avoided; I think the idea of D1 lynches giving info is well established by now.
However, it does not mean we should become a sheep herd. Do you have no reads of your own (or reasons to want to "sheep" Auwt or PQ)?
Nono, I was saying the content of the quote was weak, not the fact you quoted it! And I mean no offense by the confused part, it just looked like you weren't super set on anything, which is somewhat normal, so don't worry lol.
RVS votes are not extremely weak votes, they're a reality of their own, a means to attain a better game state. Comparing a weak vote to an RVS vote and generating a read out of it looks like a stretch to me.
-vote Auwt
I actually feel like voting here.
I'll write something up in a few hours and explain why I think this slot's contributions have been bad and has scum equity.
Though if Auwt is scum, Light looks worse... but should probably refrain from pre-flip associations.
Also JMW I Never Defend Myself If Im Being Voted It Really Is NAI One Thing I Havent Done This Game That I Normally Do Is Immediately Vote To Skip The Day..