S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)

[Gikkle]

@Gikkle Do you seriously think there is a world were auwt is scum and BOTH you and paopan are town ?

Yes, vaguely. I've gone over potential teams. Here are a few without Paopan:

Luona/Jmw/Oberon/Auwt
Luona/Oberon/Auwt/Oliverz
Luona/Jmw/Oliverz/Auwt
MM/Oliverz/Jmw/Luona
MM/Oliverz/Auwt/Oberon
MM/Luona/Oberon/Auwt
MM/Luona/Auwt/Jmw
MM/PQR/Auwt/Jmw
MM/PQR/Auwt/Oliverz

I don't particularly think the Oliverz ones are very likely, so if Paopan is town, the following teams would be possible:

Luona/Jmw/Oberon/Auwt
MM/Luona/Oberon/Auwt
MM/Luona/Auwt/Jmw
MM/PQR/Auwt/Jmw
MM/PQR/Oberon/Auwt

[Gikkle]

Yes, vaguely. I've gone over potential teams. Here are a few without Paopan:

Luona/Jmw/Oberon/Auwt
Luona/Oberon/Auwt/Oliverz
Luona/Jmw/Oliverz/Auwt
MM/Oliverz/Jmw/Luona
MM/Oliverz/Auwt/Oberon
MM/Luona/Oberon/Auwt
MM/Luona/Auwt/Jmw
MM/PQR/Auwt/Jmw
MM/PQR/Auwt/Oliverz

I don't particularly think the Oliverz ones are very likely, so if Paopan is town, the following teams would be possible:

Luona/Jmw/Oberon/Auwt
MM/Luona/Oberon/Auwt
MM/Luona/Auwt/Jmw
MM/PQR/Auwt/Jmw
MM/PQR/Oberon/Auwt

add at the end Luona/PQR/Oberon/Auwt too, which is technically possible. Oberon stepped on PQR's toes a bit but that could be intentional distancing.

[jmw]

add at the end Luona/PQR/Oberon/Auwt too, which is technically possible. Oberon stepped on PQR's toes a bit but that could be intentional distancing.

Oh and this team possibility.
In this world, still need an explanation for no kill N1 and the options are very few.
You are basically limited to scum Auwt attacking Frinckles N1. Not entirely impossible I guess.
But in this world, a scum Oberon jailed Paopan and didn't execute - why?

[Gikkle]

Yes, vaguely. I've gone over potential teams. Here are a few without Paopan:

Luona/Jmw/Oberon/Auwt
Luona/Oberon/Auwt/Oliverz
Luona/Jmw/Oliverz/Auwt
MM/Oliverz/Jmw/Luona
MM/Oliverz/Auwt/Oberon
MM/Luona/Oberon/Auwt
MM/Luona/Auwt/Jmw
MM/PQR/Auwt/Jmw
MM/PQR/Auwt/Oliverz

I don't particularly think the Oliverz ones are very likely, so if Paopan is town, the following teams would be possible:

Luona/Jmw/Oberon/Auwt
MM/Luona/Oberon/Auwt
MM/Luona/Auwt/Jmw
MM/PQR/Auwt/Jmw
MM/PQR/Oberon/Auwt

Any team with MM has to have an explanation for where the n1 kill went, just fyi. For any with PQR, that's your answer; for any without? I doubt MM no-kills UNLESS Lolde is on his team, as that would risk framing a mafia by accident.

So in reality the team options look like this:

MM/PQR/Auwt/Jmw
MM/PQR/Oberon/Auwt
Luona/Jmw/Oberon/Auwt
Luona/PQR/Oberon/Auwt too

[Auwt]

Any team with MM has to have an explanation for where the n1 kill went, just fyi. For any with PQR, that's your answer; for any without? I doubt MM no-kills UNLESS Lolde is on his team, as that would risk framing a mafia by accident.

So in reality the team options look like this:

MM/PQR/Auwt/Jmw
MM/PQR/Oberon/Auwt
Luona/Jmw/Oberon/Auwt
Luona/PQR/Oberon/Auwt too

Amazing, so this is 100% not 99% in the end.

[jmw]

Luona/Jmw/Oberon/Auwt
MM/Luona/Oberon/Auwt
MM/Luona/Auwt/Jmw
MM/PQR/Auwt/Jmw
MM/PQR/Oberon/Auwt

Let me just go ahead and remove the incorrect teams really quickly...

MM/Luona/Oberon/Auwt
MM/PQR/Oberon/Auwt

Now you have this.
First one, easily eliminated, if Luona and MM are both scum and PQR isn't then there is 0 explanation for scum having no kill N1. Don't say they holstered.
Second team never happens either because Auwt would perform any kill instead of PQR. And they wouldn't hit Frinckles because MM is scum and healing there. And they wouldn't have been swapped onto Oliver as that implies they nightkill their own teammate.

Your analysis here actually just says to me that you/Pao is impossible to be T/T because I know I'm town and the teams you have that make a T/T possible that don't include me can be easily eliminated with logic.

[Auwt]

He also fled away before saying who he did heal.
Nice.

[Loldebite]

He also fled away before saying who he did heal.
Nice.

He did say he healed Mike earlier, i believe. CBA looking for the post.

[Mike]

We are not having another no lynch day This is so bs. I don’t care if we lynch mayor or gikkle but we need to flip one to find the other today. I will hammer eather one BUTWe neeed a lynch today no matter what. And we need to figure out this Gikkle/mayor we need to hit a mafia but lynch or viggy shot

[Gikkle]

Ah, heck it. Paopan isn't townie, there's no way I get 6 people to join me in 4 hours on Auwt, and the information from Paopan's flip will solve the game. Even if I don't like the narrative people are pushing about Paopan, it's still a good lynch.

-vote NotPaopan

[Mike]

-vote NotPaopan

We need to lynch viggy if mafia shoot who you belive is partnered . If town shoot gikkle.

[Gikkle]

-vote NotPaopan

We need to lynch viggy if mafia shoot who you belive is partnered . If town shoot gikkle.

what happened to cop checking me

[Mike]

what happened to cop checking me

No way we going into tomorrow if mayor flips town with you being able to take mayors vote and auto winning as mafia.

[Gikkle]

No way we going into tomorrow if mayor flips town with you being able to take mayors vote and auto winning as mafia.

I can't take mayor's vote. Read the role card.

[Mike]

I can't take mayor's vote. Read the role card.

Wait you can’t?? I am on my phone as student are comming back from lynch

[Mike]

what happened to cop checking me

Do you know something we don’t???? Thought you where positive he was mafia???

[Gikkle]

Do you know something we don’t???? Thought you where positive he was mafia???

Have you read anything I've said in the last like, 2 pages?

I'm positive Auwt's mafia. Paopan is scummy, but I wouldn't stake my life on him flipping scum lol.

[Mike]

Have you read anything I've said in the last like, 2 pages?

I'm positive Auwt's mafia. Paopan is scummy, but I wouldn't stake my life on him flipping scum lol.

No I have not been able to teaching a class today I am having to quickly well I have to go they all back.

[Mike]

That is a verry odd response. Mayor was ok with lynching you and viggy shooting him. You want coo to check you becise I find out you are mafia but your mafia team have the votes to win when day starts you talking mayors votes.

I think we are on the wrong lynch train everyone..

[Mike]

Ok this is good he can not target a few mayor I feel so much better we are not in lylow .

[Mike]

My lynch break is over please town vote here please don’t let this go we need this flip

[Auwt]

I wonder what kind of face you guys gonna have when you will realize Paopan is town.

[Gikkle]

I wonder what kind of face you guys gonna have when you will realize Paopan is town.

Who do you suggest the scum team is, exactly?

[Auwt]

Who do you suggest the scum team is, exactly?

First two are bandits, other uncertain.
Gikkle - Oliver
And two from that pool : Oberon - Loldebite - MM - (maybe) PQR

[Gikkle]

First two are bandits, other uncertain.
Gikkle - Oliver
And two from that pool : Oberon - Loldebite - MM - (maybe) PQR

And can you explain all of these reads?

[Auwt]

And can you explain all of these reads?

I won't bother repeating myself just to see that a person hammered him in between.

[Auwt]

I actually envy Paopan.
Like he is about to get out off this nightmare second.
Maybe I should have never defended myself.

[jmw]

-vote Gikkle

[jmw]

I'll hammer Pao if it comes down to it but not until day is about to end.

[jmw]

NotPaopan (6 [L-1]):
Oberon, Mike, Gikkle, oliverz144, Loldebite, Marshmallow Marshall

Thoughts on this wagon being pure? (hint: it's not)

[Gikkle]

NotPaopan (6 [L-1]):
Oberon, Mike, Gikkle, oliverz144, Loldebite, Marshmallow Marshall

Thoughts on this wagon being pure? (hint: it's not)

Can you repeat/quote what you think is the scum team is again?

[Mike]

NotPaopan (6 [L-1]):
Oberon, Mike, Gikkle, oliverz144, Loldebite, Marshmallow Marshall

Thoughts on this wagon being pure? (hint: it's not)

I agree I was on gikkle a but we need it lynch on a 5 min break.

-vote gikkle

[Gikkle]

I agree I was on gikkle a but we need it lynch on a 5 min break.

-vote gikkle

why .-.

[Mike]

why .-.

I belive gikkle is scummyer than the mayor. And belive one of the 2 is mafia. I belive you are town if gikkle flips mafia shoot escort if gikkle flips town shoot mayor. Becise if mayor is mafia we insta lose tomorrow if gikkle is town. And no way is both gikkle and mayor town.

[Loldebite]

I belive gikkle is scummyer than the mayor. And belive one of the 2 is mafia. I belive you are town if gikkle flips mafia shoot escort if gikkle flips town shoot mayor. Becise if mayor is mafia we insta lose tomorrow if gikkle is town. And no way is both gikkle and mayor town.

Daily reminder that if i was mafia, we would've had a kill n1.

[Auwt]

NotPaopan (6 [L-1]):
Oberon, Mike, Gikkle, oliverz144, Loldebite, Marshmallow Marshall

Thoughts on this wagon being pure? (hint: it's not)

YoU aCtUaLlY nEeDs To FoRmAtE yOuR reAdS tO fInD wHo Is ScUm AnD eXpLaIn.

Sorry for this.
Funny jokes apart, yes, it is definitely not pure.

[Gikkle]

@Light_Yagami

[luona]

r u confident giggles scum :<

[Auwt]

r u confident giggles scum :<

Are you confident the train on Paopan is good looking?

[luona]

Are you confident the train on Paopan is good looking?

no

[Gikkle]

PQR, Paopan, Jmw, Auwt, and Luona are all off wagon. AKA, 5/6 of my PoE. I'm good with how the wagon looks, thank you very much.

[Mike]

This puts both at L2

[Gikkle]

This puts both at L2

yeah but... why...

[Mike]

yeah but... why...

We need to solve the gikkle mayor before lylow. That is why or we lose mafia win. I think gikkle more mafia. But if I am wrong you are the towns saving grace.

[Gikkle]

We need to solve the gikkle mayor before lylow. That is why or we lose mafia win. I think gikkle more mafia. But if I am wrong you are the towns saving grace.

i can't tell if you're talking to me or you misread my name or smth

why am I more scummy than paopan lol
I've spent significantly more time solving this game than him. I dare say I'm one of the most active contributors right now, and I'm giving actual reasons alongside my reads, unlike quite a few of the other active people.

[Gikkle]

Loldebite saved me from being shot. Literally all that would ever get him is my favor, not anyone elses (case in point: everyone is calling him scum for blocking the vigi shot). I'm treating him as (near) confirmed town. If he's scum who blocked it just to pocket me specifically, then I don't really care, it won't get him far since I'll die at some point soon, and I might as well give him what he wants if he made such a play for such a small reward.

[Loldebite]

Loldebite saved me from being shot. Literally all that would ever get him is my favor, not anyone elses (case in point: everyone is calling him scum for blocking the vigi shot). I'm treating him as (near) confirmed town. If he's scum who blocked it just to pocket me specifically, then I don't really care, it won't get him far since I'll die at some point soon, and I might as well give him what he wants if he made such a play for such a small reward.

i did not fucking save you, but it's okay

[Mike]

Ok, time to go back to class I will pat after 4 pm

[Gikkle]

@luona @Light_Yagami @Mike please vote for Paopan.

[luona]

@luona @Light_Yagami @Mike please vote for Paopan.

convince me