S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)

[Lumi]

Once Upon a Town in the West
Presented by: Lag

Yes, I am aware that The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly is a different movie than Once Upon a Time in the West

Spoiler : Setup :

The small, dusty, backwater town of Flagstone was a hidden gem of the wild west to those that called it home. It all changed when the discovery of gold in Flagstone's foothills lead to a string of murders. Four of the townsfolk formed a makeshift gang of bandits - conspiring to kill off the rest of the town to take the golden fortunes for themselves. Now will the people of Flagstone root out these murderous traitors in time? Or will the bandits seize the town's fortunes for themselves? Only time will tell... until then. Stay vigilant, and watch your back. Spoiler : Setup : Overview The setup follows the small-town rules, which are as follows: - Each player will be randomly assigned both ONE character role and ONE faction role from the list below. Every one of the thirteen given character roles will appear EXACTLY once upon game startup -Factions roles determine the players win condition, in addition to any other abilities they might get, such as bandit night kills. Faction roles are private. -Character roles give each player additional abilities to assist them, such as being able to heal players as the doctor. Character roles have no effect on alignment. Character roles are public, which means at the beginning of day 1, the character role assigned to each player will be revealed to everyone. As such, everyone will know which player was given the doctor ability, but will not know whether the doctor is pro-town or pro-bandit. Character Roles Mayor Doctor Lookout Veteran Survivalist Vigilante Grave Digger Jailor Escort Card Sharp Coach Driver Bodyguard Sheriff Faction Roles Bandit Bandit Bandit Bandit Town Town Town Town Town Town Town Town Town Spoiler : Specific Role Descriptions : Character Role Descriptions Mayor Your vote counts as 2 votes for the purposes of lynching You are NOT confirmed town Doctor Protect 1 person each night from death Protects target against bandit and vigilante kills. Does not protect against jailor executions or veteran/bodyguard kills. No feedback is given or received for a successful heal Lookout Watch over someone each night, seeing which people target that person Sees all people who visit your target, regardless of where they appear on the OoO Compulsive Veteran Go on alert each night, killing anyone who targets you You MUST go on alert and have unlimited charges Kills through this ability bypass any protection/healing You are immune to bandit and vigilante kills. You are not immune to bodyguard kills or jailor executions. You do not kill anyone who targets you with a day action, and being jailed prevents you from going on alert. Survivalist Automatically protect yourself each night, giving yourself immunity. If you are targeted by a bandit or vigilante kill, you do not die. Instead, your receive feedback that you were targeted by a kill, and have your role converted to citizen (losing all character abilities, but not faction abilities) You are not immune to jailor executions or veteran/bodyguard kills. Vigilante May kill 1 target on any given night If a town aligned member is successfully killed using this action, your role is converted to citizen (losing all character abilities, but not faction abilities). Aside from this restriction, you have unlimited shots Grave Digger Once per day, you may target any character in the graveyard, gaining all of their CHARACTER abilities for the rest of that day and the following night. Survivalists or vigilantes who died as citizens are treated as having no character ability. Saving yourself as a survivalist or killing a town aligned character as a vigilante will permanently convert you to a citizen (losing all character abilities, but not faction abilities). You may NOT target a dead mayor, all other roles are fair game. Jailor Once per day, you may target any character to be jailed If, and only if, no lynch occurs on that day, target character will jailed by you during the following night. You may communicate with jailed characters during the night, and jailed characters are role blocked and unable to join any other night chats. Jailed characters are NOT protected against other attacks. You may execute a jailed character at the end of the night, bypassing all healings and immunities. You have unlimited executions Escort Each night, you may target 1 person to be role-blocked, preventing any night actions. Can not prevent jailor executions, which are performed earlier in the OoO. No feedback is given to the target from this ability. Card Sharp Each day, you may target up to 4 people (including yourself) to invite to a card game. The following night, all people targeted will form a night chat. You may target less then 4 people. If you do not target yourself, you will not be included in the chat. Jailed people will not be able to join the chat. You may not setup a night chat if you are jailed or dead. Coach Driver Each night, target 2 people to be swapped. All other actions targeting one of the swapped persons will instead target the other person. Does not affect jailor executions or escort roleblocks, which occur earlier in the OoO. No feedback is given to either of the swapped individuals. Bodyguard Target 1 person each night, protecting them. If the protected individual is targeted by a bandit or vigilante attack, they do not die. Instead both you and the attacker die. Both of these deaths cannot be prevented by any means. Protection does not trigger on jailor executions or veteran kills. No feedback will be given for a successful protection. Sheriff Target 1 person each night to investigate If the target has a mafioso faction role, you will be informed they appear to be bandit aligned. If the target has a town faction role, you will be informed they appear town aligned. Faction Roles Bandit You are aligned with the bandits. You win when all town aligned members are dead and at least one bandit aligned member is still alive. You know the identities of all other bandit-aligned players, and may chat with them each night. Each night, one member of the bandits may kill a target player as a free action, in addition to any character actions. Town You are aligned with the town. You win when all bandit aligned members are dead and at least one town aligned member is still alive. You have no additional abilities (aside from your character ability) Setup Specific Rules: Blackout: To give the bandits more freedom with who they target with their character abilities, no feedback will be given for the following roles which usually do give feedback: Escort, Coach Driver, Doctor and Bodyguard. Free faction kills: For the same reason as blackout, the bandit member who carries out the faction kill may still use any character night actions. Longer Day 1: Day 1 will be 72 hours. Future days will be 48 hours. Nights will be a constant 24 hours. Other Rules: All Standard FM Rules apply unless stated otherwise. All Ladder Rules apply unless stated otherwise. Order of operations (OoO): Start of Night: Jailing Card Sharp sets up a night chat All night chats open End of night Jailor executes Veteran goes on alert, Survivalist protects himself Lookout goes into position Escort roleblocks Coach driver switches targets Bodyguard protects Doctor protects Kills/Investigation Feedback Optional Reading: Spoiler : Q&A : Note: Questions that involve multiple roles are not duplicated. Ctrl+F a role to see all questions relevant to that role. NO Self Targeting unless otherwise specified NO Last Wills NO Death Notes YES Death Descriptions Majority (51%) of available votes with hammer. Factional Kill is Optional High Noon Tiebreaker to be used in Stalemates Protection Priority: 1) Bodyguard 2) Survivalist 3) Doctor Any form of protection protects against an unlimited number of applicable attacks. General Setup Questions Does the game end if bandits control 50% of the vote? No. Bandits win when all town aligned players are dead or there is nothing that can stop that from happening. (Example 2v2 scenario where the game continues: Town Jailor, Town Escort, Bandit Not-Veteran x2) Mayor Mayor and two other players are alive in final 3, how many votes to hammer? 51% of the votes in play. Therefore 3 votes. Lookout Does the Lookout die if they target the Veteran? Yes. Does the Jailor visit their target, or does their target visit the Jailor? The Jailor visits their target. The Lookout comes before the Escort in OoO, does that mean they cannot be roleblocked? The Lookout's visitation cannot be roleblocked, but a roleblocked Lookout would receive no investigative feedback. Does the Lookout see any interactions caused by the Card Sharp? No. Veteran Who can roleblock the Veteran? The Jailor can, the Escort cannot. Survivalist Who can roleblock the Survivalist? The Jailor can, the Escort cannot. The Survivalist gets attacked by the Bandits, and healed by the Doctor. What happens? The Survivalist gets converted to Citizen. The Survivalist is a Bandit and duels the Bodyguard. The Survivalist also gets attacked by the Vigilante, what happens? The Survivalist protects against the Vigilante shot and gets converted to Citizen. The Survivalist and the Bodyguard both die in the duel, the Survivalist appears as Citizen in the graveyard. Vigilante The Vigilante attacks a player that flips town but was also killed some other way. Do they lose their gun still? Yes. If the Vigilante attack hits a player and that player flips town. They are converted to Citizen, regardless of how many other times that player was attacked. The Vigilante kills themselves due to the Coach Driver. If the Vigilante is town, do they appear in the graveyard as a Citizen becuase they killed a town? No - the Coach Driver is credited as the killer in this case and the Vigilante flips as Vigilante. Grave Digger Is the role the Grave Digger chose publicly announced? No. Does Jailing prevent the Grave Digger from assuming their role? No. If the Grave Digger targets the Jailor/Card Sharp, can they use their day actions on the same day? Yes. Escort What investigative feedback does a roleblocked Sheriff/Lookout receive? They receive no feedback. Card Sharp Do players invited to a card game know who else was invited to the game? No. They will know who is able to attend the game, but only the Card Sharp will be told if a player cannot attend due to being jailed. The Card Sharp receives this information even if they did not invite themselves to the game. Coach Driver The Veteran is swapped with the Mayor by the Coach Driver. The Doctor, the Lookout, the Vigilante, the Escort, the Bodyguard, the Sheriff, and the Survivalist Bandit all target the Mayor. The Jailor jailed the Mayor during the day and chooses to execute. The Card Sharp invited the Mayor to a card game during the day. What happens? The Card Sharp is notified that the Mayor cannot join the card game at the start of the night. The Mayor is jailed by the Jailor at the start of the night. The Coach Driver, the Doctor, the Vigilante, and the Sheriff all die to the Veteran. The Survivalist and the Bodyguard die to both the Veteran and the Bodyguard duel. The Lookout sees the Coach Driver, the Escort, and the Jailor visit the Mayor. The Mayor is roleblocked by the Escort. The Mayor is executed by the Jailor. Can the Doctor self-heal / the Bodyguard self-guard with the Coach Driver's help? Yes. What happens if a Vigilante/Bandit is swapped with their kill target? The Vigilante/Bandit dies - ran over by a coach. Does the Survivalist's vest protect against being ran over by a coach? Yes. Optional Reading: Spoiler : High Noon Tiebreaker : If the game reaches any sort of stalemate scenario, then the High Noon tiebreaker can be invoked either by the host or by the bandits. Host-Invoked Tiebreaker If the game reaches a stalemate deemed by the host, then the host may invoke the high noon tiebreaker at their discretion. Example: Town Card Sharp, Town Lookout, Town Doctor, Bandit Survivalist There is no way to gain any information on who the bandit is as long as the bandit holds their night kill. Town chooses to not eliminate since they prefer final 3 LYLO over final 4 MYLO. The bandit chooses to not kill because they prefer final 4 MYLO over final 3 LYLO. The host resolves this deadlock by invoking the High Noon Tiebreaker. Invalid Example: Town Card Sharp, Town Lookout, Town Doctor, Bandit Sheriff With a sheriff alive, there is a way to gain information on who the bandit is - even though the Sheriff is the bandit. Therefore High Noon tiebreaker will not be invoked. Example: Town Veteran, Bandit Sheriff The two have no way of killing each other. Therefore the tiebreaker will be invoked. Bandit-Invoked Tiebreaker Requirements: - Bandits control exactly 50% of the vote - Town does NOT have any ways to eliminate any bandits as long as the bandits hold their night kill - Town does have ways of stopping the bandits from guaranteeing victory Mandatory if: - The requirements to invoke the tiebreaker have been met two nights in a row and the bandits chose to hold the night kill the first night without invoking the tiebreaker. On the second night, the bandits must either invoke the tiebreaker OR make a night kill. Example: Town Doctor, Town Coach Driver, Bandit Sheriff, Bandit Card Sharp. The Doctor heals the Coach Driver. The Coach Driver randomly chooses one of the following options: - Don't swap the doctor. - Swap the Doctor with the Sheriff. - Swap the Doctor with the Card Sharp. The Bandits control 50% of the vote. Town has no way to kill the Bandits if they hold their night kill, but the Bandits have only a 1 in 3 chance of successfully killing the Doctor and a 2 in 3 chance of killing a teammate if they use their night kill - therefore victory cannot be guaranteed. Therefore the bandits have the option to invoke the High Noon Tie breaker rather than gambling on the night kill. Tiebreaker If the Tiebreaker has been invoked then it will be announced at SoD. The thread will remain locked but each player's vote is replaced with a 1-shot day pistol. 23 hours and 55 minutes after SoD, the thread will unlock. High Noon is half way through the game day - 24 hours after SoD. If a player posts in the thread before High Noon, then they count as being distracted, too busy talking rather than staring dramatically during the wild west standoff. They won't be able to shoot until 1 minute after High Noon. If a player shoots before High Noon, then their gun jams, and they must unjam it. They won't be able to shoot until 1 minute after High Noon. If a player is shot before they take their shot - then their shot does not go off. Shots kill guaranteed. Success and order of shots is based on their timestamp and order as they appear on the forums. Example: Marshmallow Marshall and Auwt are town. AIVION and PQRnHack are bandits. SoD is at 4 PM on Saturday. Saturday at 4 PM the High Noon Tiebreaker is announced, the thread remains locked. Sunday at 3:55 PM the thread unlocks. Marshmallow Marshall shoots AIVION at 3:59:59 PM Auwt shoots PQRnHack at 4:00:00 PM PQRnHack shoots Marshmallow Marshall at 4:00:01 PM AIVION shoots Auwt at 4:00:02 PM After the dust settles, MM's gun jammed because he shot too early. PQRnHack dies to Auwt, so his shot on MM does not go through. Auwt dies to AIVION. AIVION and MM are left. MM's gun unjams at 4:01 PM and MM shoots AIVION, MM is the lone survivor and town wins. Note: This game is functionally identical to the Original Setup, the only changes were renaming Networker to Card Sharp and Bus Driver to Coach Driver to fit the Wild West theme.

Signups

Roles were assigned to each faction by randomly generating three setups and then picking the setup I deemed to be the most balanced among the three. After the factional role distribution was determined, players were randomly assigned to slots a single time with no option for re-rolling.

Host Questions

If you would like a question answer publicly, mention me in the thread. Questions must include a mention [MENTION=11411]Lag[/MENTION] If you would like a question answered privately, feel free to message me in the private Discord channel in the server.

Day Links
SoD 1 • EoD 1
SoD 2 • EoD 2
SoD 3 • EoD 3
SoD 4 • EoD 4
SoD 5 • EoD 5
SoD 6 - Bandits Win!

Host ISO

The Bandits Have Won!

#	Name	Status	Role	ISO
1	oliverz144	Outnumbered and Killed Day 6	Survivalist	ISO
2	Marshmallow Marshall	Executed Night 5 by Jailor	Doctor	ISO
3	PQRnHack	Alive	Card Sharp	ISO
4	Auwt	Executed Day 4 by Majority	Veteran	ISO
5	jmw	Killed Night 3 by Bandits	Vigilante	ISO
6	Light_Yagami	Outnumbered and Killed Day 6	Lookout	ISO
7	NotPaopan	Killed Night 3 by Vigilante	Mayor	ISO
8	Frinckles	Killed Night 2 by Bandits	Bodyguard	ISO
9	Oberon	Killed Night 5 by Bandits	Jailor	ISO
10	luona	Alive	Coach Driver	ISO
11	Mike	Alive	Sheriff	ISO
12	Gikkle	Executed Day 3 by Majority	Grave Digger	ISO
13	Loldebite	Outnumbered and Killed Day 6	Escort	ISO

72H Day 1 / 48H Days / 24H Nights
Majority Lynch
NO Last Wills
Role Revealed Upon Death

[Lumi]

Once Upon a Town in the West

Role cards have been sent! The game will begin Monday, October 4th at 4 PM CDT

Players Alive	Graveyard
@oliverz144 @Marshmallow Marshall @PQRnHack @Auwt @jmw @Light_Yagami @NotPaopan @Frinckles @Oberon @luona @Mike @Gikkle @Loldebite

Day 1 Starts at 4 PM CDT

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[Lumi]

Once Upon a Town in the West

Day 1

In order to enhance immersion, all players are required to listen to the song of the day on loop while playing the game. This is not a joke. If you are found to be not listening to the song of the day on loop, you will be sent to sit in the corner of shame.

Players Alive	Graveyard
@oliverz144 @Marshmallow Marshall @PQRnHack @Auwt @jmw @Light_Yagami @NotPaopan @Frinckles @Oberon @luona @Mike @Gikkle @Loldebite

Day 1 Ends at 4 PM CDT on Thursday October 7th

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Day Action Deadline is 10 minutes after EoD. The thread will lock at EoD, but flips will not occur until after the day action deadline.

13 Players Remain. 14 votes in play. 8 votes to hammer.
NotPaopan is the mayor with 2 votes.
8 votes to hammer.

Remember, MAJORITY elimination ONLY. If a majority is not reached, then there will be no elimination.

[luona]

knock knock

[Gikkle]

And so it begins

[luona]

wtf scum for not answering my knock knock joke!!

[Gikkle]

knock knock

who's there

[Gikkle]

wtf scum for not answering my knock knock joke!!

you spoke too soon

[Loldebite]

Cant wait for our Card Sharp's night-time death metal chatrooms

[luona]

(HOW DO I VOTE AGAIN I HAVENT PLAYED FOR AWHILE)

who's there

town

[Gikkle]

is it worth coming up with some convoluted plan of actions since every role is public
I feel like we can cheat this setup

[Gikkle]

(HOW DO I VOTE AGAIN I HAVENT PLAYED FOR AWHILE)


town

Town who?

[luona]

Town who?

town me

is it worth coming up with some convoluted plan of actions since every role is public
I feel like we can cheat this setup

im not sure if anyone else wants this, but i would love if someone would help me with my action. i dont think ill be able to do it well by myself, idk what coochie driver can even do tbh

[Gikkle]

(HOW DO I VOTE AGAIN I HAVENT PLAYED FOR AWHILE)

[.VOTE]luona[/VOTE]

except remove the period

[Loldebite]

I'll be honest : i was planning on blocking you tonight. Felt like CD was the only role that only bandits would use n1

[Gikkle]

town me

nice

im not sure if anyone else wants this, but i would love if someone would help me with my action. i dont think ill be able to do it well by myself, idk what coochie driver can even do tbh

honestly if you're town I think it'd be very difficult for scum to work against us if we planned out our actions. Like yours is the only role I can see in this setup that can really mess a planned night up, y'know?

[jmw]

Good Monday evening everyone. (For my timezone, anyway).

-vote Oberon

[Gikkle]

Good Monday evening everyone. (For my timezone, anyway).

-vote Oberon

scum

-vote jmw

[Loldebite]

[.VOTE]luona[/VOTE]

except remove the period

Thanks, i had completly overlooked the fact that i had no idea how to vote lol

Also in my previous post, i meant to reply to luona but forgot to include a quote...

[jmw]

scum

-vote jmw

You're just mad I rolled vig instead of you

[Auwt]

-vote NotPaopan

You drew the short straw.
Unlucky.

[Gikkle]

You're just mad I rolled vig instead of you

honestly true
but if you die I can take it :3

[jmw]

honestly true
but if you die I can take it :3

Fine by me but only if you take spicy shots

[Gikkle]

Fine by me but only if you take spicy shots

of course. Wouldn't have it any other way.

[luona]

[.VOTE]luona[/VOTE]

except remove the period

thank you!
i see you have a low "posts" thingy as well, do u mind if i ask you about ur experience in maf? r u gud?

I'll be honest : i was planning on blocking you tonight. Felt like CD was the only role that only bandits would use n1

u can do it if u want
my og plan was either hold off or do what somebody i trust says.

honestly if you're town I think it'd be very difficult for scum to work against us if we planned out our actions. Like yours is the only role I can see in this setup that can really mess a planned night up, y'know?

so im best doing nothing tonight you think?

[Gikkle]

thank you!
i see you have a low "posts" thingy as well, do u mind if i ask you about ur experience in maf? r u gud?

I play mafia mainly on other sites. That is why I do not have many posts on this site. Am I good? well... I wouldn't go that far lol

so im best doing nothing tonight you think?

Depends on if we do any sort of plan, and what sort of plan that is.

[Loldebite]

-vote NotPaopan

You drew the short straw.
Unlucky.

Now that is a train i can get on gladly.

[Loldebite]

He says, before forgetting to actually jump in...

-vote NotPaopan

[Oberon]

hello cunts

[jmw]

Tried to add a profile picture so that I'm distinguishable but I guess it didn't work.

Will be busy for a bit, see yall later.

[Gikkle]

hello cunts

[Oberon]

I did not read the setup and slightly panicked when I saw my role revealed in the opening post. Lol

[Oberon]

is it worth coming up with some convoluted plan of actions since every role is public
I feel like we can cheat this setup

Let's not :P

[luona]

I play mafia mainly on other sites. That is why I do not have many posts on this site. Am I good? well... I wouldn't go that far lol

ahhh, dw ill prob be worse than you!
you didnt ask but i feel bad if i dont explain myself as well; i play on another site more frequently than here, but i mainly play irl maf or those lil chat games like among us / town of salem. im bad as both alignments, but my townplay is slightly better i think.

Depends on if we do any sort of plan, and what sort of plan that is.

ahh im not good at plans, but i can try to give input once someone comes up with one.

Now that is a train i can get on gladly.

y?

[Oberon]

-vote Gikkle

You sure you wanna cheat the setup or do you just want to seem towny by saying that?

[Gikkle]

Let's not :P

Is this an ethical objection or a practical objection?

[luona]

hmm, if we try to cheat the setup, will that give mafia enough info to just maneuver around us?

[Oberon]

Is this an ethical objection or a practical objection?

Big words for a mafia game. To put it simply, yes I do not want to win by cheating because that's lame.

[Gikkle]

-vote Gikkle

You sure you wanna cheat the setup or do you just want to seem towny by saying that?

Neither. I did not say I necessarily wanted to; just that the setup appears to on the surface be something that could be cheated if we so desired.

[Gikkle]

hmm, if we try to cheat the setup, will that give mafia enough info to just maneuver around us?

That awaits to be seen if we pursue the plan thing. Though if you're town, it certainly will be a lot harder for them to maneuver around it in the first place. Part of our roles are Jailor + the card guy, which would provide us a few ways of not giving mafia information.

[PQRnHack]

Hey, it's alive! who is @Loldebite ?

[Loldebite]

y?

I really enjoy voting Paopan, at least i did in the few narrator games we've played alongside one another.

[Loldebite]

Hey, it's alive! who is @Loldebite ?

You're going to be dissapointed : im just loldebite lol, been lurking around for quite some time, as the account age indicates, but have never played here before. I am quite active on the discord and on Voss's narrator, tho

[Gikkle]

Big words for a mafia game. To put it simply, yes I do not want to win by cheating because that's lame.

It's not actually "cheating", I said "cheat the setup" as in find a way to take advantage of the setup as everyone's roles are public.

[Gikkle]

Anyways, I liked luona's & lolde's entrance. Jmw & Oberon are meh.

[Gikkle]

Anyways, I liked luona's & lolde's entrance. Jmw & Oberon are meh.

Don't let this take away from RVS, though. Would be a shame if it ended in 40 minutes...

-vote PQRnHack

[luona]

That awaits to be seen if we pursue the plan thing. Though if you're town, it certainly will be a lot harder for them to maneuver around it in the first place. Part of our roles are Jailor + the card guy, which would provide us a few ways of not giving mafia information.

can you expand on this, especially the bolded part?

idk if im reading this wrong but to me it reads like ur saying jailor and card guy is town aligned, but how would u know that?

[Loldebite]

Hey, it's alive! who is @Loldebite ?

Oh also : please do invite me to your night time metal parties !

[Gikkle]

can you expand on this, especially the bolded part?

idk if im reading this wrong but to me it reads like ur saying jailor and card guy is town aligned, but how would u know that?

Card guy doesn't need to be town aligned to be used. They don't need to be a part of any chat they create.

Jailor is also a private communication role, not saying they are town, but IF they are, it's also a way to avoid mafia's peering eyes.

[luona]

does card guy rb his 4 people as well..? or can they still use their nas?