Typing at my mobile phone is hard. But I want to be part of the game as many times as I can. I'm frustrated to miss the 2h before lynch where everyone started to become acrive.
I'll be back 10-12h from now where I can formulate my opinion better using my laptop.
@S-FM Magoroth
Now that ZZorange has died, your vote on him is no longer valid.
Do you want to vote someone else?
I know ZZ was practically useless but that was a lot of rapid voting on him.
Easy lynch for scum to push?
asldfja;lsdfjlakjflskajflsakfdlsadfsa
To answer your question ceko, I need to reread game, but don't really have the time to do it until later tonight.
Where my thought stands right now though is that people defending zz are either scum (who think they can get zz's vote out of some friendship), or are town for not pushing the 1v1.
asldfja;lsdfjlakjflskajflsakfdlsadfsa
Since ZZ decided to game throw, i'm back onto my former theory.
-vote martingg99
This isn't where i parked my car.....
This isn't where i parked my car.....
I think "refused to really scumread anyone" is misrepresentative of the fact that I only gave, like, 4 reads (that I felt confidence in) in total yesterday
this takes advantage of that fact in comparison to players who may have had more scum-reads but not really more reads in a setup that doesn't punish wrongfulness (nor gives much benefit to being right as in most circumstances it can be hard to tell whether you were right).
If you're giving credit to people who are pushing a lot (in general) then I would question that credit because the dynamics of "not knowing for certain" of whether someone was mafia or town means the fact that someone is actually town or mafia doesn't mean much to how mafia play this and probably incentivizes them to take advantage of it rather than to play normally.
I would much rather a more nuanced way of reading here that isn't so reliant on how players interact with others but rather more emphasis on what their thought processes and etc are. Would a mafia be able to replicate what they did or be likely to use X reason? Questions like that which can't go very wrong because they don't rely on flips as much.
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
I probably just confused the whole newer playerbase here with technical word spam so rip
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
also I find it a bit amusing that I'm being tied to banana like partners in crime simply because I made a town read on him fairly quickly and that Banana didn't pressure me
like I bet 70% of mafia buddies don't act that way d1 even if one of us were mafia, and if one of us had to be mafia I would think it was Banana in that context since he did not appear to be suspicious of my town-read & nobody else questioned it like they (more specifically, wrath) did to my soonish-after Ceko town read.
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
actually I don't even know why people are saying banana looked bad yesterday tbh
it feels like all of that is associated to me and I'm concerned people are just doing that to make it seem like banana was the scum and not auwt to mess things up
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
not even on why he was looking bad either
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
-vote Stealthbomber16
I don't like his iso
like
-says he thinks Auwt was town, but does nothing to look at how bad or good the votes were on Auwt yesterday
-gives one peice of arguable evidence that banana was bad & feels eager to paint it that way
-votes yuesford but then backs off because ????
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
blink looks fine
no alarm bells there other than being wrong but I hope (more like want to believe) he'll get to me being town sometime after I die (if I do)
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
Great, ZZOrange Gets Mod Killed.. But His Vote Is Still On Me..
Im Feeling Pretty Lucky..
All votes by ZZORANGE will not be counted even if you see them. No need to reset votes since there is no hammer
Do Not open this spoiler under any condition!!!!!!!
Spoiler : :
I'm placing my vote here for now.
-vote MartinGG99
I still don't understand WrathCyber's schtick/angle. What a strange D1 for that slot.
I'm on the fence about blink.
I think they have decent reasoning for shooting banana.
But they are known for goofy 'gambits'.
However there have been no credible vigi ccs, unless auwt/banana/varcron were vigi I imagine they are still alive.
idk
Everyone has also I believe checked in today, I have not been counter claimed so most of you seem to think AUWT was scum, therefore you can't think he was Vigi. So unless you can say that you believe exactly Varcron or Banana to have been Vigi and I am fake claiming the exact role that was killed in a hidden setup, I'm p much lock town here.
I'm not going to go out and say my solve here of banana + martin is correct, because I can't know that but I do believe it to be true based on what i've gathered from the thread.
This isn't where i parked my car.....
we should get stealthguy but wrath first
This post aged poorly.
Let me go ahead and address this (again?).
ZZ did nothing but troll and throw. Easy mislynch. I moved off of him because I expected him to be replaced. Instead he has been modkilled. Slightly worse for us but, yknow, whatever.
Yuesford should, in theory, be an easy mislynch too. Dude has not given a single actual read all game. Just said that Light is scum and that I'm scum for saying light is town (which he is by the way). Except the moment I begin to push Yuesford, we see a bunch of people push off onto Auwt. Now Varcron, head of the Yuesford train is dead.
I legitimately do not understand why Yuesford is being given a pass right now. The dude is incredibly scummy. I took my vote off of him because thats not where the momentum is right now and he actually appears to be contributing a little bit now which makes him look a bit better? Still don't think the slot is town but I don't have the energy to try and press him at the moment.
My current headcanon is that Auwt was town and Mafia's second hit was the doctor heal target.
Currently working on a Martin take. be back soon.
@MartinGG99 Can you extrapolate on what you mean by this because I'm not picking up what you're putting down here.
I... huh? Alright.
Just based on what I've said so far we've got
Yuesford (1 [L-98]):
Light_Yagami
Auwt (8 [L-91]):
Varcron, theoneceko, WrathCyber, Stealthbomber16, BananaCucho, MartinGG99, Renegade, Funny Thing
Light_Yagami (4 [L-95]):
Yuesford, ZZorange*, Auwt, S-FM Magoroth
MartinGG99 (1 [L-98]):
blinkskater
*Highlighted in pink to represent I don't think this guy was playing the fucking game
This would be what I could reasonably expect you to know I think from reading my ISO.
In this world, we'd have to have another red on the auwt train for auwt to be town. Let me fill in a couple more reads here since I'm already at this.
Yuesford (1 [L-98]):
Light_Yagami
Auwt (8 [L-91]):
Varcron, theoneceko, WrathCyber, Stealthbomber16, BananaCucho, MartinGG99, Renegade, Funny Thing
Light_Yagami (4 [L-95]):
Yuesford, ZZorange, Auwt, S-FM Magoroth
MartinGG99 (1 [L-98]):
blinkskater
This leaves me with 4 candidates for the last scum:
Auwt could be scum that we correctly lynched yesterday, which I personally doubt but it's on the table.
Magoroth could be scum but that would mean that there was only 1 scum on the Auwt train so it doesn't make much sense
You could be scum (likely scenario here)
Renegade could be scum (I'll have to reread his ISO I forget Renegade is in every game I play with him)
So lets look at it from the Auwt POV
Yuesford (1 [L-98]):
Light_Yagami
Auwt (8 [L-91]):
Varcron, theoneceko, WrathCyber, Stealthbomber16, BananaCucho, MartinGG99, Renegade, Funny Thing
Light_Yagami (4 [L-95]):
Yuesford, ZZorange, Auwt, S-FM Magoroth
MartinGG99 (1 [L-98]):
blinkskater
In this world, I don't think Banana is scum. Banana was pushing for the Auwt train very hard at the end of the day. This would have to mean that we still have another scum in the Martin/Ren/Mag pool, which means it's basically a waste of time to analyze this since my scumreads here are the exact same as in the scenario that I believe is current, just that Auwt and Banana have flip-flopped and blink is bad at forum mafia. It also literally does not fucking matter which one of them are scum in this mechanical scenario as long as one of them are.
So my pool today is between Yuesford (my ideal lynch), Mag, you and Ren. As the day progresses I may widen it to include some of the people in my dark green pool if I find they look really bad. My bright green pool is people I 100% will not lynch.
Apologies to everyone for that really poorly formatted post. I had to read it 5 times to figure out what I was saying too.
TL;DR
Doesn't matter to me if Auwt or Banana was scum upon really looking at it. It doesn't change my reads either way. My scumteam right now is Yuesford + (1 of) Mag/Martin/Ren.