The hell, Frinckles is at L-2 while Yuesford is at L-4??
People saying that Frinckles is scum citing that they could see Frinckles pulling off a fake archer claim play??
Tonal reads, meta reads, okay sure whatever.
That is all ignoring the big question:
What is the upside for scum~Frinckles in his supposed fake archer claim on Yuesford->Blink?
Best Case?
Best case scenario for scum~Frinckles is town decides to just ignore the claim and lynch someone else. (Which almost happened thanks to Oberon's fake claim
)
And Frinckles almost helped make that happen - but Frinckles making that happen also has a very clear town motivation as well as MM flipping town would:
- Confirm that MM wasn't lying about being roleblocked
- Prove Oberon was a the fake power role of the 3
- Therefore confirm Frinckles + Wrath are the two real power roles
- Therefore confirm that Yuesford is scum
- Which by extension means blink is scum 90% of the time
The play would have netted 3 of the 4 scum in one fell swoop from Frinckles pov. And people are calling him scum for it. At BEST it's NAI because it has a very clear town motive, but also has a clear scum motive of not lynching either of the people in the Frinckles vs Yues thunderdome.
Next Best Case?
Next best case is town believes Frinckles and then lynches Yues. Who from Frinckles POV is just a villager (unless Frinckles - Gargoyle, Blink - Scum, Yues - Magus. This was why I wanted to test what people on the Yues train were flexible in lynching either Yues or Blink -
because if they were only interested in Yues and not Blink - that suggests some Gargoyle play could be going on. But Frinckles seemed pretty open to both and provided very good explanation for going for Yues first).
So from Frinckles POV, Yues is a villager. Yues gets lynched, then Frinckles goes next. Maybe Frinckles is Shaman, maybe his scummate is Shaman. There were no power role claims on day 1, so no easy Shaman link targets. So it's a 2 town for 1 scum play. Assuming there's a Shaman. And if there isn't he's just trading his life 1 for 1.
And the townie he'd be trading for is Yues. Who - no offense to Yues - hasn't exactly been a super helpful townie.
It just seems like a garbage low percentage play. If Frinckles does end up flipping scum here, I'm not going to think he is some mastermind that had me totally fooled with his master plan (unless there is some scenario that I haven't mentioned yet, but that seems very unlikely because I have even anticipated scum being the one leveled up to sticky impersonator by magus, to then become paladin to then check darkness and reveal as glorious master tomorrow to lead town off a cliff) - I'm going to think he's a madman with FPS who does low percentage plays to make the game interesting.
I am sticking to my Yuesford vote.
Anyone advocating for lynches outside the thunderdome are hyper-scummy as that's exactly what the scum among the Yuesford-Frinckles duo would want you to do.
Also there shouldn't be some bullshit 5 votes vs 3 votes plurality lynch by EoD. No "abstainers" just coasting along. People should be here at EoD in order to put their votes in and pick a side to give better VCA later. Not doing so is scummy.
Cutting the day short with a quick hammer would be suboptimal, so if you want to just cast your vote "in spirit" when someone is at L-2 or L-1 though, then do something obvious like
-in-spirit-vote Yuesford
-in-spirit-vote Frinckles
I think it's valuable to get people to pick a side on this one.