Also OzyWho literally witnessed me talk to Helz for a couple of hours about advice for getting into FM 10 days before this game even started - so in order for OzyWho to believe your garbage read that I'm not actually new, he would also have to think that I pretended to be new for several hours with Helz, just to trick everyone for a tiny edge now
God damn, was it Helz or SJ who tricked me into townreading them by pretending not to know what Discord was?
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blink is not a sociopath, he says UWOWU HEWWO!!!
@blinkskater
say it!!!
it means ur dumb :o
Why are you using OOC information to try and defend yourself? This is literally a game about social deception and you are using things that are outside of the game to defend yourself. This is a game about lying and manipulation forgive me for reading you for sequences and actions that are happening IN THE GAME
This isn't where i parked my car.....
i like ozy's strategy, which is lynch ppl who seem TWTBAW, which in this game applies to wrath and oberon. it's how i play in the mod as TOWN LEADER.
numbertwo's train isn't gaining any traction, and i get the feeling pushing zzorange will produce similar results.
-vote WrathCyber
@blinkskater
In the death chat for the Matrix6 game, that I was observing, @OzyWho saw me talking extensively for hours with Helz about getting into FM and advice for the game. He can confirm that
I've mentioned being new to FM and was a bit hesitant to get into weeks (months?) ago to @theoneceko , and have asked questions to ceko about what it's like. He can confirm that
I've talked about being new to FM to a handful of other people on the site who aren't involved in this game as well.
The account I am using was created (and active) in 2013
Either I've been gaslighting them all in an 8 year long plot to trick you in this FM game.
Or maybe I actually am a new player?
I agree, I totally forgot about this.
LOL. This reminds of this years 1st Champs game.
Some dude said "I dont think they are scum, but i think they are good lynch. -vote"
Dude got insta voted by like everyone and flipped red
I think not clarifying is NAI tbh.
He did? "clearly manipulating us by overwhelming and misdirecting our attention to others such as Oberon who is by far, the least of our concerns"
I agree that the way he changed his reads on varcron was unnatural.
I didn't think of it like that...
Almost reminds me of PQR being the most helpful when elaborating and Darkness and Scum Chat mechanics.
I have no opinion on that 1st paragraph, I feel like you mod players are living in a different world irt each others meta and stuff.
Tbh, his opinion/read on richard felt the most honest thing I read out of the slot.
Richard's kinda Introverted Thinker in that he doesnt really feel the need to justify his opinions and such. He has to force out giving reads imho. There was some truth to Wrath's read on richard. I could totally see that as a genuine scumread by its own.
YEAH I TOTALLY DON'T GET THIS ONE WTF? OBERON NOT CONTRIBUTING THEREFORE HIS TOWN, OTHERS WHO ARE CAN BE NOTHING OTHER THAN SCUM BECAUSE `THEYRE MANIPULATING US`, HONESTLY WTF???
This fucking triggered me..
I will just say this:
-Clearly you know the mod guys metas very well, and you call Wrath to be Oberons scummate.
-blink knows oberon better than anyone else and reads oberon as scum.
Given that I townread you both (though blink only slight slight lean), I think it would be stupid of me to ignore this.
I am not against a Wrath lynch. But my own opinions are that he's a total TWTBAW, which I don't think a new player could pull off. But I usually lynch every TWTBAW I see, so.. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I'm much more inclined to lynch PQR tbh.
@theoneceko
What is your opinion wrt PQR?
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Half the reads people have made this game have been about how people are playing with respect to "their meta" don't give me that crap - what people do in previous games and outside the game 100% plays a role in the game, and you acting like it doesn't to back up your terrible read is just nonsense
Just ftr you guys, frinckles and lag.
I question that you know gaslighting well.
What lagattack described wouldnt be gaslightning, and wrt what frinckles said - I only seen true gaslightning in a FM game once and it was actresss blink.
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Also Blink you were the second person after me to bring up how skilled Lagattack is, I just decided to drop it.
He's either a experienced player using a crutch or a new player playing well. Doesn't matter.
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i think blink is way too gung-ho with his scumread of lagattack. fits with his overconfident attitude ("i will carry this town").
i think blink is genuinely tunneling as town. i know he's very good at scum tho, so there's a small possibility he's faking this tunnel.
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Just want to agree on the consensus of who exactly we're voting for today. So far we've gleaned that PQR is the most suspicious, does anyone else have anyone else in mind?
"your over defensiveness and OMGUS are just as strong of alignment tells, and it falls into place with your overall tone for me aswell."
It all reads as OMGUS to me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Tone and defensiveness are part of it.
I will say though, many of these omgus posts have passed since then, and it's getting more in the self-pres territory.
And yes, this is his first FM game, though he has talked and read about FM a lot + one of the smartest guys in this community.
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i know
i just think that was a bs reason that doesn't rly count. i don't buy that lagattack was manipulating. i think we've been mind-melding quite a bit
never reread her posts, but my first impression was that she was town. i still have her as a vague town read. my vote on her was purely a sheep vote
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@OzyWho @Frinckles @LagAttack @Varcron @theoneceko @blinkskater @Oberon
Are we on the consensus that we're voting PQR out today?
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This isn't where i parked my car.....
100% like oops_your_dead in the krc game.
Also, a scum would never be so nonchalant I think? But then again, being an ass feels like his character trait so I dont think he would feel any responsibility towards his scum mates.
I would prefer ZZorange to get swapped out for Helz tbh
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This isn't where i parked my car.....
@WrathCyber , can you respond to Ozy's callout (which I fact-checked as belolw) regarding your change of opinion of Varcron? in 8 minutes of time, you went from townish Varcron to voting him, while there was not much development during that timespan.
Fact check-checking Ozy here, checks out.
Wraith posted his list with Varcron as townish at minute :37. Also added "Agree with Vacron [sic]" for Scum being in the AFK Lurker gang. Unvoted LagAttack and voted Varcron at minute :45. That does seem a bit sus. Around that time, it looks like Wrath got a bit defensive towards Varcron asking Wrath for his reads as well as towards LagAttack for challenging Wrath's Oberon read.
At minute :48 to LagAttack: "Unlike you and Vacron who are actively manipulating this thread by using preconceived opinions about a specific player as a reason for placing them as town or scum."
And :56 to LagAttack: "Interesting take, but I'd trust my sense on this one that Varcron is likely shadow."
Quite a 180 in the span of 20 minutes
@WrathCyber explain why you changed your read on varcron so quickly
lol @PQRnHack that was a pretty epic mind-meld
@Frinckles is blink capable of tunneling this hard as scum??
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I am simply repeating my earlier post from many hours ago, which was not responded to. I felt like Ozy had a good point and I had time to fact-check it. I plan to do more checking of all players (as not to tunnel on Wrath or any single player), but will have to be after work.
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