S-FM 327 : Last Hope

[theoneceko]

I agree with these reads for the most part (except you and ceko flipped) - I don't know what to make of that though, my inexperience in FM showing - is it because those reads are right? Or are you mirroring the sentiments that I said to try to pocket me? Or are those reads "right" based on what people have said, even if they're not "technically" right (e.g Oberon being town who "tried something new" and accidentally came off as super scummy)

i remember when i first started playing, i'd do the "post progression" thing when i was behind. and ur paranoia that varc is pocketing you is another tell.

tbh, i find it weird that varc has me at neutral and lag as town. if he's going to put one of us at town, might as well put the other up there :/

[theoneceko]

I've upped my scum points of you. That's unnecessary information only scum would sow confusion.

of who???

[WrathCyber]

of who???

Varcron.

[WrathCyber]

-vote vacron

[ZZorange]

Wtf are all these people talking about scum reading and shit. Its mafia you just vote who you want to lynch really simple stuff. Probably just gonna vote whoever has the highest post count in the thread first, get the tryhards out of the way and it should be an easy W.

[theoneceko]

Wtf are all these people talking about scum reading and shit. Its mafia you just vote who you want to lynch really simple stuff. Probably just gonna vote whoever has the highest post count in the thread first, get the tryhards out of the way and it should be an easy W.

lol

[theoneceko]

what do u think about lynching oberon?? or are you trying to misdirect

your first post does not help u look townie here at all.

[WrathCyber]

Off topic but what does rep power mean?

[theoneceko]

you can rep ppl's posts outside of FM. like, things ppl post in 'General Discussion' or 'CircleJerk.'

[Varcron]

I've upped my scum points of you. That's unnecessary information only scum would sow confusion.

What's unnecessary information? I don't follow.

[Oberon]

Off topic but what does rep power mean?

nothing

[theoneceko]

@ganelon can you post a reads list?? i think u need to put more effort toward redeeming yourself as town

if it makes you feel better, ill post one with you UWU

[theoneceko]

@ganelon can you post a reads list?? i think u need to put more effort toward redeeming yourself as town

if it makes you feel better, ill post one with you UWU

oh shit, i meant @Oberon

[CRichardForumLies]

Hello everyone!

I'll be backreading so that I'm up to speed.
I see only two people on this list that I've seen before.
MarshMallow Marshal and Oberon.

[CRichardForumLies]

Initial impressions of everyone so far:
LagAttack seems to be noob town from vibes.
Oberon can be the templar, though I doubt they are ever shadow as I'd think they wouldn't want the thread to focus on them so much if they randed shadow.

[CRichardForumLies]

Going through the VC.
Oberon/Lagattack are probably not partners as I don't think they'd want to bus each other this early if they can avoid doing so.

[CRichardForumLies]

Here is the VC as of now.
Oberon (3 [L-5]):
OzyWho, theoneceko, LagAttack
theoneceko (1 [L-7]):
Numbertwo
LagAttack (2 [L-6]):
Oberon, blinkskater

[CRichardForumLies]

Now that I'm here, can anyone show me how to look at someone's ISO?
This is a little different from my home site, which made it easy to look at ISO.

[OzyWho]

Hello everyone!

I'll be backreading so that I'm up to speed.
I see only two people on this list that I've seen before.
MarshMallow Marshal and Oberon.

We played in Mountainous Desperado test game. I swapped out because I couldn't handle the volume.
I don't remember you at all tbh, except I know you were present.

Now that I'm here, can anyone show me how to look at someone's ISO?
This is a little different from my home site, which made it easy to look at ISO.

Go to the "ongoing games" forum section. Click the post count number of the thread. There click people's post count numbers.

[CRichardForumLies]

Templar Just reveal yourself.
We will lynch you and you'll win the game.
It's not like you voting against the town is helpful to us.

Looking at this post, this feels >rand V as I'd think wanting the Templar to die early makes more sense coming from village than from scum.

[CRichardForumLies]

We played in Mountainous Desperado test game. I swapped out because I couldn't handle the volume.
I don't remember you at all tbh, except I know you were present.

I'm looking through the mountainado game on MU, and I see 3 players subbed out.

Go to the "ongoing games" forum section. Click the post count number of the thread. There click people's post count numbers.

Thank you.

[theoneceko]

alright then, im gonna log off and read.

currently on atlas shrugged. it's a very interesting book, and probably one of my faves at this point.

[OzyWho]

TripleHaven swapped in my place

[theoneceko]

when should i come back on? in three hours??

ill come back on in three hours UFOFU

[CRichardForumLies]

alright then, im gonna log off and read.

currently on atlas shrugged. it's a very interesting book, and probably one of my faves at this point.

Hello Ceko how are you?

I'm reading Mistborn which is from the 17th Shard series.

[PQRnHack]

Oh boy, lots of posts first day. I am not prepared to lynch Oberon, he is a bit all over the place, but I dont have a strong read one way or the other on him. But, it doesnt make sense for a townie to act in a manner that may prompt the Shadow to think they're Templar - Magus gets RBed, villager dies, hero gets leveled down. Maybe Oberon is indeed a Templar, hmm..

I am a bit sus of NumberTwo's "taking the bullet" and voting ceko. So for now, I will place my vote here.

-vote NumberTwo

[CRichardForumLies]

I'm not liking Varcron right now.
They haven't shown signs of trying to solve the game.

-vote Varcron

[PQRnHack]

I'm not liking Varcron right now.
They haven't shown signs of trying to solve the game.

-vote Varcron

Hey, he's done more than the AFKs such as myself

-vote CRichardForumLies

[CRichardForumLies]

Hey, he's done more than the AFKs such as myself

-vote CRichardForumLies

Is that right?
I'll check them out.
Hello PQR. I don't think we've met before.
I notice you don't like NumberTwo and their post about "taking the bullet" is weird, though I'll have to check it out to see if they're more likely to say that as village or scum.

[PQRnHack]

Is that right?
I'll check them out.
Hello PQR. I don't think we've met before.
I notice you don't like NumberTwo and their post about "taking the bullet" is weird, though I'll have to check it out to see if they're more likely to say that as village or scum.

Hello, I am also known as [SHITTY]Player
TBH I am more inclined to vote one of the AFKs. No strong reads at this point on the active players, other than some extra trolling from ceko and Oberon

[CRichardForumLies]

i like lagattack. she's my bestie UWOWU

wrath is a close friend as well, but not as close ;W;

I can agree on Lag seeing as they come across as noob town.
Ceko can be a village lean.

[CRichardForumLies]

Hello, I am also known as [SHITTY]Player
TBH I am more inclined to vote one of the AFKs. No strong reads at this point on the active players, other than some extra trolling from ceko and Oberon

Nice to meet you.
Lets talk about Ceko and Oberon.
Oberon comes across as Templar at worst, as I don't think they would want the thread to center on them this early if they randed shadow.
Thing is I can see worlds where Oberon is a mischop here, and the fact they got 3 votes this early makes me lean towards them being possible villager.
Ceko feels like village trying to solve.

[Lumi]

Hello, I am also known as [SHITTY]Player
TBH I am more inclined to vote one of the AFKs. No strong reads at this point on the active players, other than some extra trolling from ceko and Oberon

It's only 6.5 hours in out of 48, so there's plenty of time for afk players to become active - but if there are still people that have barely posted after 36 or 40 hours of day 1 then, barring some very strong reads elsewhere, I think the inactive players should be first to go.

[ZZorange]

Are you suggesting lynching forum level default names LagAttack? That sounds like an educated opinion.

[Lumi]

Are you suggesting lynching forum level default names LagAttack? That sounds like an educated opinion.

Yes, not posting is nearly as bad as picking a default name

[OzyWho]

IRT CRichard,
Whenever I played on a new site I got all excited, at least in the beginning portion of games. As Town.
Now looking at Richard, I project my own experience onto them and think that they're more likely scum than not. It's not like with their experience they'd lack stuff to say.

IRT WrathCyber,
I'm torn between:
a) they have a major case of the Town Syndrome.
b) their play is reminiscent of the classic Jester play in SC2; come up with the worst reasons to scumread someone.
In either case, they're never a Shadow in this game tbh.

IRT Ceko,
They would be my top townread and the only read I could get married to, if it wasn't for 1 thing; their play became fmpov towny only once I made my biggest biases clear in what I townread.
They still biggest townread though.

IRT Varcron and LagAttack,
They could 100% be either alignment. Why are my reads on Ceko different than on LagAttack? Good question, I'm not sure myself.

IRT Oberon,
I would kinda value MM's and blink's opinions on him over my own, but meta-wise he's towny imo. To be more exact, it's he's meta where he tries to play his scum meta as town; based on the apathy + the held back tantrum.

IRT Nr.2,
I'll just assume it's his town meta; inactivity. But obv he is well aware of his own meta and the fact that regular SC2Mafia players know it.

IRT PQR,
No opinion yet.

[PQRnHack]

Yeah let's get the defaults.

-vote Giordano Bruno

[CRichardForumLies]

Are you suggesting lynching forum level default names LagAttack? That sounds like an educated opinion.

I mean if they don't post, then we can't sort out their alignment by reading them.
That's the way it works.

[Lumi]

I mean if they don't post, then we can't sort out their alignment by reading them.
That's the way it works.

ZZ wasn't being sarcastic

[CRichardForumLies]

I feel like Ozy could be village seeing as I mindmeld with them regarding Oberon and Ceko.
Oh btw Ozy, this is my first game on this site too.
I feel like it isn't being mentioned enough that if Oberon randed shadow, that there probably would be more resistance on them being wagonned.
Yet the fact they got 3 votes within the first 6-8 hours of D1 makes me inclined to think that they're a villager who is top wagon.

[Lumi]

I feel like Ozy could be village seeing as I mindmeld with them regarding Oberon and Ceko.
Oh btw Ozy, this is my first game on this site too.
I feel like it isn't being mentioned enough that if Oberon randed shadow, that there probably would be more resistance on them being wagonned.
Yet the fact they got 3 votes within the first 6-8 hours of D1 makes me inclined to think that they're a villager who is top wagon.

Resistance from whom? 6 of the 13 non-Oberon players have less than 5 posts.

Not to mention Wrath putting Oberon solidly in the town category and labeling me as scum for going after Oberon

[CRichardForumLies]

Resistance from whom? 6 of the 13 non-Oberon players have less than 5 posts.

Not to mention Wrath putting Oberon solidly in the town category and labeling me as scum for going after Oberon

4 of them happen to be AFK as of now.
I don't think there is resistance on Oberon being top wagon.
Not to mention as I said before, Oberon is templar at worst based on how much attention they've got on themselves and I'd think that scum!Oberon would want to avoid attention as much as possible.
Your thoughts on this would be appreciated.

[theoneceko]

Oh boy, lots of posts first day. I am not prepared to lynch Oberon, he is a bit all over the place, but I dont have a strong read one way or the other on him. But, it doesnt make sense for a townie to act in a manner that may prompt the Shadow to think they're Templar - Magus gets RBed, villager dies, hero gets leveled down. Maybe Oberon is indeed a Templar, hmm..

I am a bit sus of NumberTwo's "taking the bullet" and voting ceko. So for now, I will place my vote here.

-vote NumberTwo

bruh, you too?? im pretty sure numbertwo was just trolling, since if i WAS templar and got lynched, who i kill is decided by RNG. i don't think numbertwo even read how templar worked, so i'd only see that vote as RVS.

[Lumi]

Actually Wrath went after Varcron too - another person that put Oberon in their scummy category, said we were "manipulating the game" and misdirecting town towards Oberon.

The idea that there "should be more resistance" protecting Oberon seems to fall flat when you could easily have one of the shadows as afk and 1 of the active players so far has been defending Oberon and attacking people who have been suspicious of Oberon

[theoneceko]

Hello, I am also known as [SHITTY]Player
TBH I am more inclined to vote one of the AFKs. No strong reads at this point on the active players, other than some extra trolling from ceko and Oberon

[SHITTY] Player

[Lumi]

4 of them happen to be AFK as of now.
I don't think there is resistance on Oberon being top wagon.
Not to mention as I said before, Oberon is templar at worst based on how much attention they've got on themselves and I'd think that scum!Oberon would want to avoid attention as much as possible.
Your thoughts on this would be appreciated.

Wrath has literally defended Oberon multiple times and labeled two people that labeled Oberon as scum as his top scum picks for "manipulating the town"

The majority of players have been inactive since the Oberon wagon started and there's already one player seemingly fervently defending Oberon for no real good reason

[Lumi]

4 of them happen to be AFK as of now.
I don't think there is resistance on Oberon being top wagon.
Not to mention as I said before, Oberon is templar at worst based on how much attention they've got on themselves and I'd think that scum!Oberon would want to avoid attention as much as possible.
Your thoughts on this would be appreciated.

Also you said hello to everyone, but no hello for me.

+30 scum points for you

[theoneceko]

i see @Yuesford is viewing the thread.

hewwo UWOWU, need paopan, UWOWU HEWWO, UWOWU HEWWO UWOWU HEWWO?!?

[theoneceko]

he left lol

[CRichardForumLies]

Also you said hello to everyone, but no hello for me.

+30 scum points for you

I don't get what you're saying here.
If I said hello to everyone, wouldn't that include saying hello to you as well?
I'll chalk it up to not being able to see body language behind computer screen.