S-FM 327 : Last Hope

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Btw, what did Blink say about his feedback tonight?

[Frinckles]

And yes I really was roleblocked last night

I'll take a shot and guess you were randomized between two level 0s and roleblocked by the real magus.

[Oberon]

aight so, no2. voted for mm, im pretty sure he's not mafia ever,
its mm, pornhack, and idk, probably lagattack?

[Frinckles]

Btw, what did Blink say about his feedback tonight?

Just read for a few pages after #1675 and look at what Blinks says. Keep in mind what Auwt says about being leveled up and when.

[Frinckles]

aight so, no2. voted for mm, im pretty sure he's not mafia ever,
its mm, pornhack, and idk, probably lagattack?

Are you drunk? This is the PoE. Everything about it makes sense.

Theoneceko
LagAttack
PQRnHack
Oberon
CRichardForumLie
Marshmallow Marshall

Zzorange
Numbertwo

Varcron
WrathCyber

Yuesford
Blinkskater

[Oberon]

There's no framer in the game, so Oberon is 100 % full of shit here, and he can't be anything but Templar, because it's a death sentence for scum!Oberon to accuse me like this. If there's any killer in the game, he should be on Oberon tonight.

you claim Im jester, exactly what I'd expect you to claim as mafia. kill this

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Yeah and I kind of thought about the odds.

No kill, plausible that shadows leveled up a member. Lucky me.

No kill, possible medic? Those odds ain't so good fmpov.

If Yuesford is the Magus, he'll either be counterclaimed or not and that will solve itself.

And then of course, Wrath is a factor.

yeah this is actually not bad at all, in fact. Leveling Blink up as Magus makes no sense imo and I absolutely don't see why @Yuesford would do it. If he wants to explain...

[Oberon]

why does it not make sense? you're literally lynching a Magus claim without ANY cc lmfao
Lynch MM, MM is a much better Lynch.

[Frinckles]

why does it not make sense? you're literally lynching a Magus claim without ANY cc lmfao
Lynch MM, MM is a much better Lynch.

The thing is he ISN'T claiming Magus. He said he didn't move and is a villager.

[Oberon]

The thing is he ISN'T claiming Magus. He said he didn't move and is a villager.

no, check again. he is claiming he levelled up blink now.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Are you drunk? This is the PoE. Everything about it makes sense.

Theoneceko
LagAttack
PQRnHack
Oberon
CRichardForumLie
Marshmallow Marshall

Zzorange
Numbertwo

Varcron
WrathCyber

Yuesford
Blinkskater

He's not drunk, he's Templar :P I know for a fact he is lying, and doing this as scum on D2 is a death sentence. Even faking being Templar as scum would be very suboptimal, as Templar could easily claim and actually get lynched because he'd be counterclaiming a scum, or simply die one way or another, leaving him exposed. Not even WIFOM could save him from that. Therefore, he's Templar, case closed, and he needs to die. @ real magus

Why is Varcron in the scum pool?
Why is PQRnHack in the town gang?

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Hi guys. As your fellow villager, I can assure you I level-upped blinkskater. This frinkle guy is trolling and evils rode with him.

-vote Frinkles

@Frinckles yues did claim magus

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Did he claim not-magus elsewhere lol??

[Oberon]

Ozy probs yelling from the grave: "stop role-hunting the Wizard"

scum.

[Frinckles]

no, check again. he is claiming he levelled up blink now.

Ok, I missed that. So let's imagine he's Magus okay?

He would have had to use his ability during the day.

From Magus:

Each day, target someone to level them up (you keep this power even when you choose an element).

From Villager:

Whenever someone levels you up during the night, you can choose a level 1 Village role and will then become this role at the start of the following night.

The distinction? Look at Wizard:

Target a player at night. You will grant this player an extra level.

So why couldn't Blink use his ability last night?

[Marshmallow Marshall]

@Yuesford , I demand for your first post today to be a disclosure of your exact actions and infos from that. I see you lurking in the forum, so I know you are here, asswipe.

@Frinckles what was the message of the feedback you got? Copy paste pls.

And like that... he's gone!
offline now lol

I think you got caught here @blinkskater and @Yuesford

Assuming scum!Yues and scum!Blink, PQ looks good for this. It looks like genuine townie happiness of finding scum, the progression makes sense, the taunting pic does too.

[Oberon]

Ok, I missed that. So let's imagine he's Magus okay?

He would have had to use his ability during the day.

From Magus:


From Villager:


The distinction? Look at Wizard:


So why couldn't Blink use his ability last night?

auwt confirmed villagers don't get to use their roles on the same night they get levelled up read back again

[Oberon]

Sorry I might have fucked up here, regarding the explanations.
It is not gamebreaking though.

All of you should be interested in the following examples :
[*] If a Magus increases the level of a Villager, this villager would need to pick a role the first night and wait for the following night to use it. (Stated in rolecard, I did a mistake in a previous post, ik).
[*] If a Magus increases the level of a level 1 Hero/Shadow, they will get their new role at the beginning of the night, and can directly use it on the same night.
[*] If a Wizard levels up a Villager, they get to choose both their role and their action, but not on the night they get level up, it would be the night after.
[*] If a Wizard levels up a level 1 Hero/Shadow, they would level up and be able to use their level 2 power next night (the night after the level up).
[*] If the Darkness levels up a level 1 Shadow, it works the same way as a Wizard level upping an Hero or a Shadow ; they will become the level 2 role at the start of the following night.

@Frinckles

[Marshmallow Marshall]

auwt confirmed villagers don't get to use their roles on the same night they get levelled up read back again

Oberon actually speaks the truth on this point, Frinckles.

And now I must leave, bye

[Oberon]

its also possible yuesford is in fact mafia, but not darkness - some other role that visits and doesn't give feedback

[Oberon]

but all this is a moot point until someone CCs. even if nobody CCs, yuesford is 100% dead either tonight, or the night after.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Oh yea I just thought of one thing before going...

If Oberon had a scum check on me, he wouldn't have voted LagAttack at the start of the day. He'd have pushed me more than he would have pushed others, trying to get people to lynch me without having to reveal. This hasty, unprepared "reveal" makes zero sense lol.

Bye for real

[Oberon]

although he would have to be exactly horror or slime for that to be the case
@Auwt what happens if Horror visits a Villager? Would the Villager then "visit" someone else?

[Marshmallow Marshall]

but all this is a moot point until someone CCs. even if nobody CCs, yuesford is 100% dead either tonight, or the night after.

Spoiler : for your eyes :

FOLLOWING
FOLLOWING
FOLLOWING
FOLLOWING
FOLLOWING
FOLLOWING
FOLLOWING

THE FOLLOWING NIGHT!!!

[Oberon]

Oh yea I just thought of one thing before going...

If Oberon had a scum check on me, he wouldn't have voted LagAttack at the start of the day. He'd have pushed me more than he would have pushed others, trying to get people to lynch me without having to reveal. This hasty, unprepared "reveal" makes zero sense lol.

Bye for real

that's not how I play, I prefer to wait before I play my hand, that way I get more info

in fact you voting blink gives me all the info I need

[Oberon]

that doesn't counter what I said

[Oberon]

Well, good thing you're not a town leader because you would walk us off a damn cliff. You just happen to be a well-recieved town read with alarming levels of paranoia.

+1

[Oberon]

don't read MM's reaction to me as town indicative. its fully NAI, people always do this regardless of alignment.

[Oberon]

im sad if wrath turns out to be jester or mafia :/ I was so sure he was town, he made a lot of sense this game

[Oberon]

Also I agree with what Richard said - someone among blink/yues, and frinckles is lying. I don't know why we wouldn't lynch someone among that group today.

ALSO blink choosing paladin makes no sense to me - if he were so absolutely sure I was scum, why not choose knight and then check me - if he's so confident that I'm scum then that grants him an instant level 2 role which he can then verify himself with.

By choosing paladin that lets him keep "missing" on his investigations while conveniently not checking me since he would be "looking for darkness/magus" - allowing him to continue pushing me

paladin can self confirm after he finds someone to be lvl1+

[Oberon]

paladin can self confirm after he finds someone to be lvl1+

uh once he targets the darkness or magus.

[Oberon]

Actually I shd probably take out the Darkness first.
so

-vote Yuelsford

pornhack/yuesford aree 100% never mafia together

[Oberon]

although sadly it appears wrath was evil (probably jester)

[Frinckles]

that's not how I play, I prefer to wait before I play my hand, that way I get more info

in fact you voting blink gives me all the info I need

Are you seriously saying you had a red check on MM?

[Oberon]

Are you seriously saying you had a red check on MM?

yes, I am.

[Frinckles]

yes, I am.

Okay I'm just gonna mark you as 3/4 scum and leave it at that. Was hoping you rolled town this game.

[Frinckles]

Oberon/Yues/Blink + Varcron for Templar.

Invest (me) + Prot/Killing (wrath) makes more sense over two invests hitting 3 scum N1 and the other invest not wanting to lynch in that pool.

[Oberon]

bro you didn't hit scum tf you talking about you just saw X visiting Y

[Oberon]

im pretty sure its pornhack, mm, and someone else? dunno who the third one is

[CRichardForumLies]

Just checked that Oberon is a cop claim with a red check on MM.
Anything else I missed?
Apologies for my absence, this game was giving me a headache earlier.

[Frinckles]

Just checked that Oberon is a cop claim with a red check on MM.
Anything else I missed?
Apologies for my absence, this game was giving me a headache earlier.

MM said he was roleblocked.

[Frinckles]

im pretty sure its pornhack, mm, and someone else? dunno who the third one is

Why would you check a mostly afk MM?

[Oberon]

Why would you check a mostly afk MM?

because he was on the wrong train and because he literally didn't make sense on d1

[Oberon]

idk why ceko and paopan are voting frinckles? vote mm

[Frinckles]

idk why ceko and paopan are voting frinckles? vote mm

I don't really care anymore. I can't carry this when half the town is afk. I'm heading to sleep.

[Oberon]

@Frinckles if MM's feedback is in fact true that implies Magus thought he was an evil role
and if its not, MM took an action and is now lying.

[Oberon]

if it is true, there's a high chance MM is actually Darkness.

[Oberon]

if it is true, there's a high chance MM is actually Darkness.

if it's not​ true

[Frinckles]

@Frinckles if MM's feedback is in fact true that implies Magus thought he was an evil role
and if its not, MM took an action and is now lying.

That implies that somebody was leveled up during the day and then MM was frozen (roleblocked) by the magus at night.

If the magus visited MM he could not have visited Blink. Which means that if MM is telling the truth, Blink and Yues are scum.

Why would MM lie about being roleblocked at any point in time? The only role afaik that can RB N1 is magus. The magus would instantly know if MM was lying.

[Frinckles]

I saw Yues go to Blinkskater last night. What does that mean, explain it to me.