idk I kind of believe #'2 claim. If I rolled tracker I would probably would have insta claimed tracker tbh.
This isn't where i parked my car.....
What I don't buy is SJ "trying to give cover" to #2's claim because there isn't any need to do that as town
This isn't where i parked my car.....
yeah we should probably lynch this scooby doo guy he's way overthinkin this game bg/doc/lo on me 2nite
The only townie good enough to get banned for game-throwing in games that he wins.
I don't know why a cc was needed. This makes Numbertwo's gamble inherently worse. Day two would have been more optimal for a cc regardless of alignment.
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And SJ isn't an idiot, he would be aware of this from a town perspective. In essence there would be nothing to gain.
From Scum!SJ perspective he could be using this to make it seem "painfully obvious" that he was citizen trying to cover for a numbertwo tracker. When in reality, he's just a mafia goon.
Of course the other side of the equation is numbertwo. The ideas above assume he is the real tracker obviously. But I don't see why he wouldn't be, even being apprehensive to vote for his literal counterclaim (unless he's just balls to the wall lol.) The claim was delivered naturally in tone but it really didn't need to be made anyway since it throws us into a shitty 50/50 that the mafia had advantage on.
So to summize:
-Numbertwo is probably real even though the gambit is dumb
-Sj had no reason to counterclaim as town and would know it
-Sj would counterclaim to trick us into making us believe he is town
-frinckles is about to carry
-vote Superjack
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Now if you disagree with me, then you would need to explain what a town!Sj gains from the cc.
As town, he privately confirms one scum and has a chance to find another at night thus ending the game tomorrow. Which would be the time to cc.
As Mafia, he seems like a dull witted citizen trying to catch a bullet. Which he never is.
As an aside, I don't really know enough about Numbertwo's meta but apparently it's similar to Oberons because we can't go a day without claims.
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@OzyWho please put the setup in the op <3
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Oh fug nevermind ozy I see it in your second post thanks.
Anyway I'm off for now!
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There are a few other scenarios including the possibility of a coordinating effort by both SJ and Numbertwo in mafia pre-chat. But that's some schizophrenic shit.
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Oh also I just primed the hammer on SJ and didn't realize Numbetwo voted him.
Time for Oberon to say this lynch is too fast.
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-vote unvotelemme think UwU
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Strange, because you -have- read the setup.
So you should know that Mafia have no day chat.
And it would be impossible for Mafia to predict my actions D1
So conspiring together would be impossible for the pre-game chat.
And I am confused to where there are no flips in this game? I can't see that in the mechanics?
Also. EZ. If we go by Orange being new and Did attempt to vote.
Auwt is the only player to of not voted.
I'm going to be lazy here.
-vote Auwt
They are scum. They haven't voted. This is a trend I have noticed with my recent games that scum have weak votes and tend to avoid it.
I am very disappointed with you. I thought you of a higher tier player. If you believe that I would do what I did as scum and not realise how obviously scummy it is then I really need to review my notes on you.
Firstly, NumberTwo can be somewhat deemed as a new player with regards to their prolonged absence and near-unknown presence within the current community.
Take this into account, and how easy It can be for one to misunderstand the game setup, their Tracker claim is most likely legitimate. This is perhaps the conclusion that I expect all town players to reach, and for scum to gleefully accept as a real claim.
Yet I'm one of the few players, if not the only one, who has had the pleasure to play with numbers two for their majority of their actve time many years ago and I am quite possibly one of the very few who know their capabilities.
I can say that Numbers twos is quite capable of lying about their role and they can quite easily be a doctor or a one shot veste.
Although I doubt they are a citizen.
With regards to them being scum, this would only be possible if their claim had be pre-planned and no one other than a SuperJack-NumberTwo scum team would have the balls and cooperation to play such a gambit.
Therefore they are not scum. And likely TPR.
Yet we where stuck in RVS. This sucks. And needed to end.
Also, knowing full well in NumberTwos capability, mix with the near impossible of trying to predict what SuperJack Gambit that SuperJack is pulling off for today I am happy to continue to counter claim Tracker and will refuse to remove my claim.
Good luck with that.
Even statistically. Goon is 2/3
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I love how you are pointing finger at someone who has not voted yet, when you are close to your very own end.
After having seen a 3-Carolers claims game and a D1 Switcher claim, nothing really stand out in this game.
If you are still standing on your Tracker claim why is your vote not directed at Numbertwo?
Inconsistencies?
What's up SJ?
Oh it's alright, you're new lol, just saying it so that you know
I honestly don't like the fact you seem to believe me right away. I mean, I'm town for real lol and perhaps you just know me well enough to know, but it feels... idk, too simple, not paranoid enough? Anyway, that's a bit of a bogus reason to scumread you, but let's say I have my eye on you.
if this is real...
Row 3 exists, which would mean there's a bulletproof instead of a doctor. WIFOM around the existence of a doctor is your best shield here, assuming you're not just scum, which is relatively safe for now given the immense spotlight you put on yourself.
Mmmm, yes you did, and I'm not sure I believe you. Why would #2 lie as scum? The same question applies to you, but perhaps a bit less: fake-CCing can be seen as protection of a power role, so scum!you has an exit, whereas scum!#2 does not.
So in order to solve this situation, I'll say right away that if you're pulling a gambit to "protect" #2 as a citizen, it's terribly anti-town because it places focus on you and distracts us from actual scum. You'll get lynched and probably cost us the game. So if you stick to that claim, you stick to it until the end, @SuperJack . Do you confirm you keep that claim?
Also, -vote SJ in spirit
My vote is already on him but now it's not an RVS vote anymore.
There's no point in doing that, though: WIFOM already is your shield if there's no doc, and if there's a doc... there's a doc. A townie doing this would do more harm than good.
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Lol yes, you certainly would have. But that's you, and you don't play normally, so it doesn't count.
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SJ+ frinckles could easily be SVS
This isn't where i parked my car.....
this is way too obvious coming from SJ
have y'all really lost your minds?
what does SJ gain from this as scum?
-vote Auwt
I believe Frinckles is more likely as he seems less involved but w/e
if this is a genuine slip, and you are mafia, we are in setup 2