Time to hang the mafia scum
-vote Helz
From what I understand, town has to snitch on lover's eventually if there is no info. I don't think mafia would ever take the risk of gettin outed d2 so it is likely they target another mafia.
I don't think mafia would snitch on their lover this early on. If they do then we still have TPR's to confirm their alignment and catch them.
So when it comes to snitching on lovers, I believe it has to happen today if we got no carols or lists.
Found another mafia
-vote Varcron
Unless MM was the person who received the Carol the Caroler will know a player is withholding the list (something only a scum would do) and out them in their last will.
Snitching on lovers is not something I see a town player doing. It just spells out to the mafia 'Kill one of these people for a double kill'
Taking a lover as mafia is not something I see the mafia doing. It risks making themselves double killed taking out 2/3 of their team while they could instead get a potential extra KPN outa taking a town player and leave that player alive.
Also- the role cop we have can't really confirm a lover without being killed.
I either dont understand your point or just disagree with it.
Taking a mafia lover as mafia heartbreaker**^^
How so? It is the information every other town member needs in this game. Mafia will kill everyone anyways so why not force Lover to cooperate with town by shielding rest of the town. There is a doc and 2 invests alive making the game easier for them as long as they are alive.
Any town player should snitch on Lover's so we could potentially get a CC and if not then we get 2 slots semi solved. It is better than anyone claiming TPR and then get nk/rb at night while leaving rest of town confused
Baker you have played VM with us with lovers you know mafia always wants lovers to out as Helz said a double KP. There are more roles that love role than the heartbreaker. If they town start claiming loverize the mafia to kill one person can target there. Lover. My point is Lovers should not claim. Also no ones head yesterday was on the chopping block no one had more than 2 votes. Oberon had 2 votes also I moved mine off him is why he only had one vote. Baker your world building is honestly feeling odd to me.
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I propose it as a last resort at this point I think the pros are bigger than cons if it comes to that point. Imagine someone claiming they have been visited by a Lover, we can check them tonight + protect them. With or without them we got 2 ML's and if we can't really have a scum on chopping board then who are we going to lynch here? FrostByte for their fluff vote on you?
I have bunch of TR's and SR's and nulls when I look at MM flip but it could have been better with 2 flips and I don't think any of us have any strong reads on people atm. I am open to ideas here from both of you and Helz because town needs information and we got none so far.
My read of d1 was that is was pretty weak as far as any world building goes. Point out what you think was odd about bakers? I didn't see much worldbuilding from anyone.
I play the mod... pro ren wins again... wow
We dont even know that a heartbreaker exists. This plan has detriment to town either way but only helps town 'if' there is a heartbreaker 'and' the town player targeted by heart breaker outs as well as well. Thats 3 requirements for that plan to have any value with 0 for it to have a lot of risk.
I think it would be better for players to simply add their lover in their last will. If their lover is town they will flip with them while if its a heartbreaker we will know because that player will not flip with them. 0 risk with no requirements that mitigates the lover issue and forces the janitor to cover for heartbreaker.
I want to hear the carol. If carol is not given it was either thrown to MM or scum and scum is risking being outed by the caroler.
That and we never actually broke RvS yesterday. Would be a good place to start if you feel like going aggressive tin foil to push the game tempo. Its what I would do 'normally' : P
'if' there is a heartbreaker 'and' the town player targeted by heart breaker outs as well as the normal lovers**^^
This was supposed to be a reply to @PQRnHack
Oh, btw...
I personally see no reason not to lynch today even if that means calling down a cfd..
Chinese fire drill. I have never actually done it but its where someone yells Chinese fire drill at a stop light and everyone jumps out of the car, runs around it and gets back in.
In Mafia its where last minute everyone flops their vote onto another train for a last moment lynch on a player nobody had really focused on. Its what got Yayap lynched D1 as Mafia when he went to the MU Championships a few years back.
I'm gonna stick with my previous vote for now.
-vote SuperJack
I'm also scumreading Numbertwo a bit regarding his vote switching near EoD.
The same goes for all the skip voters.
good day, Citizens!
My night has been extremely uneventful(no feedback)
It saddens me to see that MM has perished once again. But we can't give up now, we must keep fighting for the good of this thing that we are doing!
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why the fuck did we skip
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I also had no feedback last night, figured i'd mention.
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-vote varcron
Sheeping my town read of pqr
This isn't where i parked my car.....
@Frinckles all the ISO links are broken. Please fix.
@Frinckles
Does a Sleepwalker still visit after they die?
Can a List-Maker select a dead player?
Are Ornaments permanent once they receive them or just for that night?
Can a Carol receiver receive a Carol that contains their own name?
Can a Carol contain the name of a dead player?
Can a Carol contain multiple scum?
Do Janitors only clean the factional kill or can they clean other deaths?
Does a Janitor only discover the role of a target they clean?
Can a Janitor self visit?
Do you receive the Feed back "No Feedback" if role blocked or do you just get no feedback?
What feedback do you get if there is no feedback?
If an Actress disguises as a Heartbreaker or Lover or Angel do they discover their lover in their rolecard or not?
Can a Heartbreaker choose themselves as lover?
Can a player have multiple lovers? (Same person be the target of heartbreaker, angel and lover?
Do Lovers get a chat?
Can a Lover love themselves?
Can an Angel target to protect be themselves?
I also despise the fact that mike calls me a top town read, for doing absolutely nothing.
This isn't where i parked my car.....
^ True that's also what I noticed from D1.
I've addressed him and iirc he told me he would explain the reason he agreed with you whereas Mike didn't share the same read on MM at all.
@Mike might be the time to explain I believe.