You're confirmed town, lol.
Obviously there's no reason from SJ to not vote Ren from his point of view if he can't make a case for why he thinks Varcron was actress.
Ren is making more sense than SJ due to having a vote on SJ.
You say baker could be scum and Auwt was TPR. Is there any reason to think that? I expect Auwt to be TPR because no 2nd TPR claim now at LYLO - but for that same reason, Baker is TPR confirmed.
If there was a TPR outside auwt and baker, they would've claimed at LYLO.
So who's the scum outside SJ/Ren? PQR or Oberon? It's insane to not think Oberon - PQR has been pretty pure in my book whilst Oberon I expect to have claimed caroler to bait out a CC, and now is AFK because he gave up as scum after being universally scumread.
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Has it been this long since we've played? Have you forgotten me that much?
Don't forget I'm medicated now. This means I'm even more capable than I ever was.
Look back at my scum play. You will see I'm active and spend my posts befriending everyone.
If you think I'm stupid enough to do that scum play I'm personally insulted.
OK if I'm wrong, then at least we can end this quickly.
-vote Renegade
Renegade has been hammered. Stand by for the host's review and day-end post!
Renegade (5 [L-0]): blinkskater, OzyWho, Mike, Light_Yagami, PQRnHack
SuperJack (1 [L-4]): Renegade
go do something for 3 hours, I'm making nachos
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*three people die*
Mafia win!
Congratulations to Superjack, Ozywho & Oberon!
(Renegade was a citizen btw)
A personal thank you to Renegade & Ozywho for replacing in and of course to my co-host Aivion! :]
That game was pretty wild. 3 Caroler claims, a triple kill a bunch of other crazy stuff. Thanks for playing.
Here is a link to the discord chat: https://discord.gg/VGg3JQUk
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GAME UNPAUSED
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GG WP
This isn't where i parked my car.....
Blink I Found Out You Were Scum Day 2.. With One Little Sentence.. That Sentence Was.. Im At No Risk Of Dying At Night..
If anyone was unclear, Mafia was going to kill Mike (or Blink) which would cause them along with Light to perish. This leads to a Mafia majority.
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Oh I Totally Thought Blink Was Mafia..
Does Light get the 3 points for Ladder for "solo win"?
Game ended with blink alive so...
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Yeah should've lynched Oberon and went from there.
God forbid you don't play to the T to the expected playstyle of wall-posting and posting thousands of words of basically nothing and endless speculation in an attempt to "solve".
Not worth playing forum mafia as it is not fun.
GG ty hosts bye.
I'm at a loss for words
This isn't where i parked my car.....
LOL @bakermir ACTUALLY fake claimed caroler.
WTFFFFFFFF
That's so insane..
Yet another FPSer among us xD
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bru h look at my ISO
Baker ISO: = Scum
In post #253, #257, #258, bakermir is trying to convince people that the lovers outing themselves helps town, when
in reality like Helz said it just sets up for a double kill. This is what I did as scum the first time I played this setup lol.
In post #260 he falsely claims that we can check + protect the lover claim. Doctors can't protect lovers/heartbreakers.
And How would we be able to "check" the lover/heartbreaker? If there was a list maker in the game, bakermir being scum would
know that there is no heartbreaker in the game, and it would get a list maker to waste an action on a Town/Neutral.
In post #249 baker states it being weird there was no sanitize N1, indicating that he believes there to be a janitor in the game.
Then says it was probably because a potential actress is on the team, leaning twords the fact he knows that actress is one of
the 50/50 roles. Post #205 he mentions wanting to lynch neutrals because of a potential actress being in the game, more points
towards him knowing actress is one of the 50/50 roles. He then kind of contridicts himself in the same post by saying "he doesn't
think we can let neutrals live with an actress alive." In post #257 he is trying to prove his point of outing the lovers.
He claims "Any town player should snitch on lovers so we can "potentially" get a CC" He than acknowledges the fact that TPRS
getting NK/RB would leave the res of the town confused. My conclusion here is baker mentions Role Blocking and janitor being a
thing and trying to back his logic with that. He claims twice that there's an actress potentially in the game so he knows that part of
the 50/50, but tries to convince people there's a heartbreaker too? Theres flawed logic here which I believe are slips because after Helz
shuts him down on the neutrals claiming he comes with post #268 saying he mixed it something up when it appeared to me he knew that there
was janitor/consort with a potential actress. I beleive he knew all along that it was 50/50 actress heartbreaker because of the gaps
in his logic.
In post #1271 baker says that saying he actively defended Varcron is wrong. I will direct you to post #381 Where baker claims to have
a bad feeling for the people pushing Varcron so hard, when nobody was infact pushing Varcron at all, there were 2 RVS votes place
there by PQR and Myself. Could be white knighting or buddying. Now to post #387 more thoughts on how Varcron
"doesn't sit right with me" and he thinks he should live today. Now to #389 where he continues to defend Varcron, white knighting
or a pocket who knows. That's 3 posts where he defends Varcron for what seems to be "more contributions
than frost and #2.) After Mike votes Varcron a little close to EOD with post #431, baker chimes in whithout having said anything inbetween
at post #447 saying "we shouldn't vote varcron." reeks of TMI knowing Var is town. That's 4 posts
where baker defends Varcron. You can also see Renegade sheeping bakers thoughts/actions with post #410, claiming he doesn't want lynch Varcron.
Posts #460 + #461 claiming Varcron push is "weak/manufactured." When it did appear in the thread that Renegade seemed to trust Mike and myself.
Post #493 Renegade seems to be upset by the vote shift, which was done by bakermir, then asks yagami to start spilling information? That doesn't
make any sense to me. To post #554 is this a possible scumslip from renegade? Baker posts #552 saying SJ/Varcron/Rene team.
Ren follows up with #554 UNDERSTANDING, that he could be seen as Varcrons team mate in bakers eyes? WTF, then asks where the dots are with US..US
US....... and SJ. If this isn't slipping himself as scum with bakermir here you can have my left nut. He uses the word US while
speaking to bakermir. not the word me like he should have, US.
On a side note Day 1. Post #181 baker doesn't have any issues with yagami claiming a role. Post #204 Tells SJ that Town and Neutrals need to hide their roles
untill we find mafia. Day 2. #257 No mafia have yet been found but baker wants Town and Neutral Lover to claim. Day 3. Post #648 baker agree's with helz that
claiming roles was quite scummy when it was in regards to yagami and myself. This is a major contridiction between posts #181 and post #648 carries on with post
#663 saying light is anti-town for reasons we should understand very well. I'm assuming that he means Yagami claiming like he did on day 1? Baker had no problems
with it at all on day 1. Contridictions galore.
I think that with post #691, baker spews Oberon as town here. Baker knows that Oberon is fake claiming as town because AUWT is dead, and very likeley the carroler.
If baker goes after oberon today, that will further my suspicions even more. So with Oberon being the only Carroler claim atm Renegade chimes in with post #781 casting doubt
to Mags claim. Take note at this time baker has never hardclaimed anything, so Oberon is UN CC'D caroler. In #952 Renegade continues to throw shade at Oberon. If you read
bakers ISO he keeps grabbing random names to throw in with scumpairings and no explanations. If you have any doubts please just read the game over, or read is ISO a few times.
Conclusion: It looks more like bakermir would be more white knighting and trying to pocket Varcron, then it actually does of being an !actress
Varcron. Renegade and Baker are scum together from my POV. There agendas match up, and Renegade has barely contributed and reads or pushes with reasonings
to back it up. Day 1+2 consisted of sheeping baker. I've read this game about 15 times now and spent a good amount of time on this. We need to trust helz's
read on Superjack also. He is always scum here. Look at how SuperJacks agenda out of nowhere of blink is scum matches up with what baker was saying about.
It's the same agenda.
To Oberon, PQR, Ozy: If you're one of the final 3 you need to trust me here, I found you guys as town, I'm talking directly to you guys. You need you trust in my POE, regardless of the flips.
One of them is actress. Renegade>>>> SuperJack>>>>>>bakermir.
Oberon I know you've been scum reading SJ+Ren for the entire game and your reads a accurate there. You've also supected bakermir for acting scummy at times. He tried getting lovers to out early on
for the doublekill. He's contridicted himself numerous times just check my ISO, you got this my friend.
Ozy I know you're a sub in, I've tried to help you get caught up to speed with this game, I found you to be town, your tone is very good and you're thoughts are that of a townie imo. I need you to trust in
me here that I have correctly read this game I also need you to trust PQR and Oberon. Oberons FPS is 100% NAI and I know you know this, don't listen to the SJ/Oberon team that baker has been pushing. Oberon
is town.
PQR man, I've pretty much town read you from your first few posts. Your tone is that of absolute purity and the way you are working through progressions and reads screams town. You are suspecting people
and not afraid to put them up on the chopping block for poor/scummy play. We got this dude have faith in me please.
This isn't where i parked my car.....
that random hit+clean on auwt was so lucky though..
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Obvious scum behavior from folks like Oberon slides here because the people on this site are predisposed to goofy and dumb "big brain" plays - see Blink in the game where Mike was Virus - but if you "lurk" OH NO MUST BE SCUM!
Next time make 3 dumb claims in a row then admit you are mafia and you are all set on Sc2Maf!
well baker had it right wp on the reads, but the claim wasn't good imo
This isn't where i parked my car.....
Oberon claimed mafia OPENLY! Lmfao its funny really.
I Feel I Would Have Been Scum Hunting More If I At Least Knew Blinks Alignment From The Start But Since I Had No Clue.. I Kinda Felt Like I Was In No Mans Land.
You were playing arguably the hardest role in this setup. Mike had similar concerns because he didn't exactly know his win condition. That's the whole point of the roles though. You need to figure out what your target's alignment is and do your best to keep them alive regardless.
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