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I think one can be bigoted about challenging the status quo, if they are close-minded about it.
English is so dumb. "One" should not be a pronoun. TYVM
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i usually imagine protagonists as white, idk, maybe bc the authors are white?? it's so weird to consider that as racist, to see that as ANYTHING, really. the vast majority of authors are white in the U.S. what happened to my childhood, when i couldn't care less aboutthe race of the kids i hung out with??
i only read a few books by asians, and a few more by black people. in all of those books, the protagonists' race (which matches with the author's race) is explicitly stated and often a central topic. that frustrates me.
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omg, white girls' hairs r so straight, clearly white women are uptight as fuck and not a good fit for our business. also, if you've green or blue eyes, you must have ur head in the clouds all the time! the lighter the color, the more ditzy u are! i'm not recruiting some blueberry-eyed fuck as my lead programmer.
^now just imagine that being socially acceptable
btw, i realize oops's response to this was a million times more appropriate than mine lol
also, imagine CONSTRUCTING a society with those kinds of prejudices. in efe's server, i attempted to box light into cracker/redneck territory, but i didn't come up with a whole language to put his race down bc it kinda made me sick and also made me realize how messed up racial jokes are.
i was alaoso extremly crnge for trying taht, OWO
u have a point here, it breaks my bren trying to think like u but i can manage sometimes. however u've to consider context here, oberon just got off a ban bc of his stupid jokes (we all know it's not bc he promoetd haking). i absolutely consider obe-won to be racist and sexist now, even if u don't in this thred.
ig ur just focusing on this debate and im only focusing on my general knowledge of as uwo-won as a person.
I feel you bro.. I feel you.
Hi, Mr.Naruto.
I think Pain was right. The only way to unite everyone and to make everyone understand each other - is to make everyone feel same extensive Pain. Otherwise, it's like asking to imagine a new color.
It's just that you can't do that and the only other option is let time do it's thing. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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I think I found something that I think plays at least some part in this attitude, and it fits well with what @oops_ur_dead said about nobody caring about "whites" but instead caring about "Italian" or whatever other group.
A quote from The Diversity Study of England and Wales:
I highlighted the part that I think has a hand to play in this common attitude disparity towards different ethnic groups.Some of findings suggest the role of prejudices shaping attitudes towards marriage between faith groups. Sarah (not her real name), a female rabbi from London, was careful to recognise the role of prejudices but also of other considerations:
“There maybe is an element of Islamophobia, I’m not trying to deny it. But if I thought about Muslims, or Sikhs and Hindus…the difference between those and Christians is that you’re talking about other minority faith groups. Why is that relevant? Because they’re all groups…that are small, relative to the general population, and are all seeking to preserve their own ethno-religious identity.
“Ultimately, they all seek to preserve their ethno-religious identity; when somebody is going to marry a Christian, they are not going to marry somebody who has a strong faith themselves. But if they marry a Muslim, most of the people, who are not involved in interfaith dialogue, will assume that person to be a religious person…Do I want a close relative to marry somebody who is going to pull them out of the Jewish religion?...It’s more likely, in people’s minds, if you’re marrying a Muslim, Hindu or a Sikh, there is a comprehension in our religion that these are faith groups where people tend to be more observant, more involved, on some level, than most Christians are.”
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Thats an interesting point. I had not considered looking at group identity idiosyncratically. All this time I have just been focused on the external image and how that image is cultivated. I suppose something like Jahari's window could be applied to groups if you treat a group as a superorganism.
I have sorted quite a few of the opinions I had when I made this thread but I do still see... 'something' that makes conversations on sexism and racism so one directional. At a glance I feel like they should not be so difficult to have but people hear something different from the common view and just assume your position must be hateful if its different.
Ohh yah, that feels like a common thing for us humans. I remember looking at comment sections in some of those YouTube debates through response videos. Their each respective comment sections seem to often be eager to say something bad about the other group; sometimes dehumanize even.
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Anyone remembers Achmed the dead terrorist? A Jeff Dunham puppet?
Apparently, he's big in Israel. So big in fact that Jeff Dunham is their favorite comedian.
Meanwhile, Sweet Daddy Dee puppet had to be retired because of accusations that it's racism.
Bubba J puppet on the other hand has had no such problems, and I'd argue that it's the most "insulting" of all his stereotype puppets, while Sweet Daddy Dee was the least "insulting" one.
A double standard kinda. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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I'm not sure it's fair to say that the belief that academia is a huge proponent of things like CRT is paranoia or conspiratorial. The English and Sociology departments of a majority of US campuses are left-leaning, even my Mexican American literature class taught similar concepts. I don't think they're specifically out to get people or anything but students are extremely impressionable. Especially when the ideologies presented to them are seen less as an opportunity for discussion and debate and more as an empirical truth that must be accepted for societal or moral self-improvement (Socialism, CRT, etc.)
That's really the dichotomy that Critical Race Theory proposes as it was developed from Critical Theory. Consciously or unconsciously, Blacks must be victims, Whites must be oppressors. But I don't understand how that means an ethnicity can't show prejudice or racism against whites or any ethnicity. I understand a proposed theory isn't necessarily meant to everyone feel warm and happy inside but the fact that this has gotten so much traction over the past few years boggles my mind. It doesn't seem productive or even rational if the goal of it's exposure by the media or it's proponents was to improve race relations. On the contrary, it feels like we're regressing to segregation and full blown racism again with both sides playing, doesn't it?
Yeah. I touched on it here.
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This thought process is something that has bothered me for a very long time. The idea that racial or gender based hate is itself one directional is probably one of the most ignorant commonly voiced beliefs I hear. The fact an individual's 'group' is seen as holding privileged status in no way translates to them being immune personally from discrimination and hate. The way society accepts thinly veiled hate speech as a push for equality based on victim status is ridiculous to me.
I largely see it as why CRT is controversial. The bits where it deconstructs racism and informs people on systemic issues is excellent but there are many who use it to push a message of racial hate under the guise of eliminating racial hate which just makes no sense.