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    Re: ZZorange: 1-S2-1-2701690

    Alright I thought the logic was easy enough to follow. I was wrong. I will break it down for you 100% of the way for you Auwt.

    So you have two unclaimed players left in a game. One of them claimed the other was Triad Day 2, and it has since been confirmed there is no framer in the game.

    This persons claim is obviously suspect. If you as the Mayor choose to lynch the other player despite having this information publicly available to you in the form of the chat log or simply paying attention in the game, then you've made a mistake.
    Now this is just me personally, but I don't believe its fitting to punish other players, when another one makes a very blatant mistake. As the Mayor the onus is on you to pay attention to the game, you have the most information and the most power in the form of votes. The game is quite literally on your shoulders. So if you have a choice to make and ignore information you have previously been given, then you as the Mayor have made a mistake. It's easy to make mistakes as Mayor, new players can get information overloaded. Not the case in this game, but does happen in others. However the fact that Mayor is a hard role that can miss information does not excuse the player for making the mistake. It's still a mistake.

    The 9 player spammed N1 - 10 Triad! A total of 13+ times. Unfortunately to miss this, one would have to be afk for the entire duration of Day 2. Now personally, if the Mayor was Indeed AFK Day 2, then the onus for not paying attention and not playing the game is on them. Of course we have the replay and can see that the Mayor was infact paying attention and opened the chat log. Thus the Mayor was well aware of 9s claim.

    So when we get to essentially the final day it boils down to me being punished for the Mayor forgetting a valuable piece of information he was present for. Of course again you use the phrase "Trying to Throw the Game" but trying to throw the game in this case would only be possible by attempting to lynch the Mayor. That's the only way this game could have been thrown, so attempting to throw the game would have to qualify as attempting to do that, which I did not do. I attempted to lynch the last neutral.

    At the end of the day the game boiled down to a default named Mayor forgetting a piece of information he was present for and making a bad call, which then was promptly corrected the next day and the only result of his poor choice was wasting a day, a fitting punishment for negligence on his part.

    If I am guilty of anything it is allowing other players to make mistakes, because that's the only way they're going to learn. You don't learn anything if good town hand hold your way through every game, you learn by fucking up and learning yourself not to make a mistake that silly again. Did the Mayor that game learn anything? Well he's a default so its doubtful, but the onus is on the named names to at least try to teach.

    Auwt if you were truly unbiased in your job as a report analyzer or whatever you want to call it, you would recognize that the charge your attempting to lay does not hold water, in any realistic definition. Of course we don't live without bias and I recognize your bias, which wouldn't be a problem if it didn't cause me to get banned on grounds that aren't valid. Ironically the only thing getting banned falsely for gamethrowing could potentially do is cause more legitimate gamethrowing. Because if you're going to be punished for a crime you didn't commit and it's going to stick, you might as well actually commit the crime if you're gonna be doing the time.
    Last edited by ZZorange; February 17th, 2021 at 02:31 PM.

 

 

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