Fucking a, now it's a dark blue? that's even worse.
Here are my notes on people.
Spoiler : my notes on players :
and here's my ranking of people
Magoroth - No comment here necessary
Helz - I don't think Helz deserves #1 town, and I realize I'm just town reading him because Helz is a strong player, but that's where the slot is for now.
Yzb - my note here on yzb is mostly driven by the posts by Leto/vacaron. Initially pegged him as scum, but advocated for some pro town things and is now in this spot
Vacaron - Leto used to be my top town, but i haven't liked the content in the last few [days?], placing here.
Wisp - Advocates for a shitton of pro town strategies. I like this slot a lot gameplay wise, but not too sure about alignment
MM - I was able to pick MM as a hard town in the last game I played. Wasn't able to do it here buddy.
HRD/SuperJack - Too much spam, didn't want to sign his name. I guess the archon shit is done and you aren't getting yeeted today. I'd like to see your day 2.
Samson - Riddles and role play, even being asked to stop.
Dark Magician - Says that they don't care about the game. They can die.
I'm not a huge fan of how the top of my list sorted itself out, but I like the bottom.
It feels like I'm missing Bahkeih and SamsungLyssa?
Also, I am way too fucking tired to go back AGAIN through the list and look for ranking/reads. Game ends on the 26th, right?
-vote Dark Magician
Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.
Nice deflection-vote yzb25
I find quite hard to believe you're sheeping a weak townread on a nullread while you claim to have significant scumreads yourself on other people, and you haven't proved me wrong, only deflected onto me and my vote on DM, which was completely unrelated.
But at risk of falling into your game, I'll comment on the DM vote: when I see bullshit that seems to stem from scum intent, I expose it. I saw that, I exposed it. That's not opportunistic, that's scum-hunting.
I am not lynching today:
Wiisp- Host confirmed Town
Magoroth- Slip town with high confidence
Superjack- Strong early play in line with his view of how town should open a game
Add me as self confirmed and I am left with:
SamsungLyssa
MM
DM
Gray
Martin
YZB
Varcon
Samson
Bahkieh
for a 33% rng scum shot. Im including Gray because pre flip.
Im also still voicing willingness to policy lynch on @SamsungLyssa .
Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.
Not that I disagree, but do you really place your vote for a strict policy lynch here? It's not exactly informative.
What did yzb do that was pro-town and towny enough to get in that spot? I don't see it.
This is a good point, although I wouldn't totally exclude scum!Mag for this; it's not impossible he has simply not read scumchat, or that scum are keeping this for the night. It does give him quite a lot of townpoints, though.
I'm not sure if your judging based off of Leto or whatnot, but #387 was not by me but by the slot before me.Originally Posted by Magoroth
I think it would have to be that he did not read scumchat although I find that doubtful before posting a readwall and the amount of time passed between the smite and his read wall. He does not play the amount of WIFOM for that to have been a bid and I do not see a world where scum have not either laughed at the smite on Grey or said something along the lines of 'damn bro, he got your ass.'
My town read on Mag is going to carry for quite a few days.
Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.
Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.
Oh I didn't see this gem to respond to
Fair, I haven't really been available over the past few days and for that I apologise and will try to make up for it.
Martin's wallposts are characteristic of both his scum and town game, do not trust them even if they have good content as he has screwed us multiple times by making us believe that his walls are townie.
I want more of an explanation on why you think SJ is scum, your words here in my opinion do not make sense.
A chunk of your reads here are literally just sticking random stuff to random people with very, VERY thin reason behind it. If you don't build up sufficient evidence as to why each person is a certain alignment, it makes it harder for the rest of us to see into your brain or agree/disagree.
I will probably revisit him later in the game if I live long enough although I find that unlikely.
I think if he is scum the most likely potential is that he mindlessly slapped that read wall together but the things he voiced are valid reflecting he is keeping up with the game.
@Wiisp What are your thoughts on Marshmallow Marshall?
Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.
With that being said my reads list for now is as such:
Town:
Varcron (Obviously)
Marshmallow Marshall
Wiisp
Helz
Null/Tiny lean one way or another
Martin
Yzb (Flawed reasoning on multiple of his reads however this can change to town
DM (Closer to scum because he was eager to point out a potential "trap" by MM that I responded to, it was just an odd thing to point out really.)
Scum:
Bahk (No interaction to my knowledge since I have joined
Gray (Refer to previous cause yeah)
If I missed someone I have a habit of being scum read for that in most of my games and it typically happens all the time.
He voted like 5-6 people with reasonings I don't believe he made up, so ya I like him
Also halz if I sheep your mag read and your wrong I'll hate you. He is clearly jumped around the thread or he isn't actually paying sttention and I idk how I feel about it.
Yeah, But I am not town reading him for what he said. Its a perspective slip. If he was scum he would have a chat where Wiisp being host confirmed was discussed over a week ago or something. My town read is very specifically betting on how he did not factor that into his read wall. Instead of shrugging off the easy 'Confirmed town' he provided reasoning for placing that slot in his wall. That is inconsistent for scum given what we know about Mag as a player as well as what we know about the scums perspective. It also does not appear to be mirroring from looking back.
Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.
Also thanks for the heads up on Martin, I definitely did get that feelings from his posts
Though I am not interested in the slot for now, like maybe after a couple day phases and he's not dead, we should think about whether he is deep or not
Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.
I mean MM not mag
Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.
I still TR Varcron.
I kind of like the idea of finding a town core and then yeeting someone outside of it. Actually, I think that's how I've been playing most of my mafia games but have never put it to words.
The reason why I didn't put Wiisp as confirmed town was because I really don't see a reason why Wiisp would claim that they were the smiter (God?). And maybe my eyes blurred around that part too. I guess they probably are? Personally, I'm hoping some wifom's happening.
As for an unasked comment for my activity, I think I waited too much time between my posts, but I'm on vacation and, like Martin, don't want to tire myself out of this game. I'm still not going to participate in real time, but I'll try to be a little bit more active.
Finally, SamsungLyssa seems like they're also a policy yeet, but I feel like the host could take care of that slot for us via a replacement. Dark Magician is a better yeet because they've at least posted but have been blatantly anti game solve. And to parahprase Wiisp, mafia's not that hard if people gave a shit.
It's still your slot, though. You carry his karma.
@S-FM Magoroth this is post #387, how is it bad?
Who swapped in for Leto again?
and I am not at Vacron town yet, Idk why you guys are
enlighten me please?
Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.
"I suspect you because you look upset about the kill"
That's not scumpaint, that's just a stance. Maybe not the strongest stance ever, especially since it's confirmed to be wrong, but saying Leto had been scumpainting Wisp because he had voiced a suspicion on him is a big stretch.
Understand thy cryptic posts I do not, therefore my patience begins to rot. Clear stances and opinions on players may you give, so that our reads may prosperously live?
That would be angleshooting... so no.
I have a mild townread on Varcron for his caution when it comes to clearing Mag for not realizing Wisp is confirmed town. He had the same reaction I had: yes, it's towny, but giving him a free pass over it is dangerous. He didn't try to make it look like it was nothing, he addressed it, but he also made sure we weren't giving a free pass to potential scum.
I hear this guy might just be VT.
Not a bad ML.
He’s also doing weird stuff like AtE.
-vote Dark Magician
Come Mafia don’t be shy
Dos she do there we go.
All Mafia abored the train!
OpenWolf it’s ok!
I do not think its angleshooting at all. Its part of our known in game information and something we can apply WIFOM to. Player left- felt unable to preform and didn't want to let their team down, who was their team, apply WIFOM logic-
Its no different than if 1 person always replaced out when they rolled scum and that meta reasoning was used. I have seen that done multiple times.
Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.
You literally explained my thought process perfectly and the reasoning behind itOriginally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall
Big cookie for MM
I may or have not legitimately forgotten about this game for the last 7 days or so
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
Honestly I don't see a point in eliminating high-posting players early on unless I got a good scum-tell (or what I believe to be a scum-tell) on them or if most of that posting is fluff.
Mostly because I believe high-posters are generally bound to self-resolve to some degree at some point with their level of activity and (potentially) amount of AI content.
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
SamsungLyssa (3 [L-4]):
yzb25, Helz, MartinGG99
yzb25 (2 [L-5]):
Marshmallow Marshall, Wiisp
Hybrid Richard Dawkins (1 [L-6]):
Samson
Dark Magician (1 [L-6]):
S-FM Magoroth
Yeah uh I would rather be here
-vote Yzb25
On a separate note though I wonder why @Samson hasn't voted at all yet since his replacement
A.K.A "That One Idiot"