I generally always wake up about 2 hours after that.
Granted, that isn't the typical sleep schedule as that (2 hours after) is practically at Noon, but its like my natural habitat on the 4th dimension of the universe to wake up around then or an hour after presuming I got no responsiblities.
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This feels like courtroom questioning for some reason lol, esp with this part.
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Okay, so I haven't spent hours thinking about this.
But right now I'm sort of feeling and thinking:
Auwt probably town, though the lack of a role-claim is puzzling.
Renegade seems town based on effort alone.
Mesk so far looks genuine on the push.
Which looks like a fucked up situation because I don't think/feel there are collectively 3 towns in this conundrum and makes me wanna go back and pray to my feedback that Auwt is indeed illuminati.
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I mean, honestly I do feel like Auwt is scum but I really can't tell how much confbiased I am in thinking that.
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One thing that bothers me is this:
In the span of 18 hours and only 1 post in between by Auwt, Frinckles goes from Null to one of Auwt's top scumreads without Auwt even interacting with Frinckles. Most of the Auwt to Frinckles interactions occurred much later D1.
Though he did mention the first reads list was a "base" of sorts.
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Additionally:
This was 6 minutes before the shift in scum-reading Frinckles.
The odd thing is, here Frinckles is directly said to be town-reading DM, which Auwt also heavily did.
Did Auwt factor this in at all? It could be said to make Frinckles look better, not worse, I would presume.
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@Auwt
Why did you start scum-reading Frinckles after you made your reads list?
Originally, he was (seemingly) null in a low confidence reads list by you, but 18 hours later, Mesk + Frinckles are your top-scum reads.
Not to mention, Matt Zed pointed out that Frinckles, like Yzb25 and you, was town-reading DM. Yzb25 was, as per your readslist, towny and you would know yourself to be town as well. I would assume Frinckles agreeing that DM was town make him look better in your eyes.
But you read that post and 6 minutes after listed Frinckles as part of your two top scum reads.
Why is that?
(I hope the wording here isn't confusing for you btw, if I need to re-word let me know)
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I literally got pinged to sign and said I would play but my activity would be lacking. MattZed cannot request me to sign for a game then use my unavailability which was forwarned against me, lol. That's called a cheap shot. aka picking on low hanging fruit. Something that you're not focusing on cause you have nothing else to use as a rebuttal against your shitty chart which did pretty much nothing
Now it is MZ's fault.
Is it his fault you fucked your fake claim too?
Yawn
Wildly different standards here, now that is goofy.
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Mesk has been reasonably active this game, I'd say. Partially thanks to the pressure Matt led early on, sure, but you can't accuse her of inactivity lol, that's not fair. She gave more definite conclusions that you did, and her gambit, although it probably didn't work out as well as expected due to her misreading/not reading the setup, is town-telling. Your attacks here look like OMGUS; plus, if I'm not mistaken (I could be since I haven't read everything yet), you haven't really considered the gambit as even possibly town-telling, which is... strange.
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I have the same thought process as well, however, I just feel like if I was in his position I would have just slapped my vote down between either of us. Either way, both of us are scum from his PoV, why wait til someone else demands he votes? if he was hesitant to vote in the first place, why even slap your vote when called to place one given you're "unsure" which is the best course of action. MZ determined the best course of action for him when he was pinged to vote. not himself.
idk if that makes sense, but it does in my head
Let's not forget how matt casually read rene's early play as town for the groundbreaking insight that citi claims are anti-town, and never seriously pushed the slot for the entire game. I have no idea how someone could townread renegade's early play, putting aside whatever MM read from renegade's stream of consciousness later on.
@Auwt
Fine, I will help you out.
By some perverse coincidence, I actually checked renegade last night like mesk falsely claimed, and renegade did appear as mafia.
This is not a second gambit (that would be dumb). This is 100% serious. I tried to crumb yesterday (IRL yesterday) that I was also sheriff when I randomly brought up the possibility of 2 sherrifs to mesk. But I'm awful at softclaims and have no idea whether I did it well.
Anyway, this day is evidently not heading anywhere fast, and there's a good chance I'll be dead tomorrow with a wiped lw. So I may as well reveal this information now. Auwt, if you are town and townread me, you now know renegade is mafia and there is no illuminati. Your objective is clearly to ensure renegade is lynched today.
Perhaps I speak from a tunnel, but I struggle to imagine a world where the scumteam is not mattzed / renegade. Almost the only way matt interacted with renegade was to probe renegade about his voting interests. And it is certainly correct to probe your mafia teammate for their voting interests in this setup (or feign probing). He handled renegade with mitts for the entire day.
The Q is whether there really is an illuminati (and I suppose will remain the Q for the rest of the game).
I could still be swayed either way, but various things indicate to me that there is an illuminati. But I'll abstain from final judgement for now.
How do you feel about renegade being given the chance to kill his teammate (whomever it might be)?
There's a few ways we can go about this and I would prefer if you gave me any idea as to what that should be.
One is to have me shoot either MZ or Auwt while we lynch Renegade and etc.
If there IS illuminati though having me check a 2nd time could be a very bad idea which puts us (presuming !non-illuminati Renegade) down to 4v3.
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The only world where we have an illuminati right now and auwt isn't in it is a world where martin is lying and if we're in that world we have much larger problems.
The fact that Auwt hasn't claimed is slightly spooking me and it's the sole thing that's giving me cause for alarm. I need to see how bakermir plays for a while because I do think MZ was not trying to push a mislynch on me... I can understand the thought process of renegade + MZ and I can kind of see it too maybe? If baker is mafia he's definitely not illuminati and I can say that most with the most certainty because I was the one the slot pushed yesterday.
-vote Renegade
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@yzb25 I'd like to see you place a vote so I can see your thought process better.
If you believe there is illuminati, and if you believe the fake claims, then what does that mean to you @MartinGG99
Yzb25 has already been proven (as close as can be w/o me checking him) to be practically not-illuminati to me (as mentioned in a past post I made prior to the claim).
He's also basically town in all setups fmpov.
Regardless of the claim, and whether I believe it to be real or fake, I should be considering his opinion on the matter very much.
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He basically did two things, one that could help my cause (if illuminati existed) and another that would hurt it if I recanted n1 for some reason.
I mean, I feel like scum generally paints one thing about a person, not multiple things in various angles
Which speaks to me as a true solving or open-mindset that towns generally have more often than scum do
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this is ignoring the fact that Yzb25 derped about there being executioner when that's not possible in the setup ever and yet nobody said anything about it
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Nice ^^
It does make sense, but doing what he did also makes sense, so you can't scumread him for it lol.
Being afraid to vote is indeed a scumtell. I just doubt he was like "heeyyy scummate(s), pls coach me!" in the thread. When people are accused of having done that, it's never true (even if they're scum).
I could roll with a Renegade lynch.-vote Renegade
Did he? I thought he was more in agreement with the DM vote than he was townreading Renegade for any other reason.
If you're actually right on that though, and that Renegade flips mafia, I'm pretty sure we have a Mattzed-Renegade team and that I was 100 % right in my last will.