Anyways, I suspect:
Auwt
Mesk514
Frinckles
Not that I think they are indeed scummy, but I do feel suspicious of them // they're on my radar.
Also I need to look into Yzb25 more tbh.
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
Yeah this flipless game is dumb.
If people are smart they will realize that my solve is correct.
I gave my 3 possible solves one of which is correct.
Cya Guys, GL.
Just before I say goodbye.
MM/Matt/Mesk/Rene
Only within there and it’s instant win.
If game still continues, probably look at Frinckles.
DOUBLE derp?? XD
Illuminati flip as their non-Illuminati counterparts.
Also, insulting such a setup is heresy. If you don't like it, don't sign, and at the very least try to play the game when you've signed for it. "I won't case you because I can't be bothered" is not only disrespectful to the players, but scummy, and I am starting to think you're playing on the "lazy" part of your character to manipulate those who think you're a lazy town. You're running out of "bad town scumhunter" credits, and I'm starting to feel like I should sheep Mattzed against you if noone gets scummier than you (and the more you play like this, the harder it becomes to become scummier than you). You didn't even quote what you claimed to be a perspective illuminati slip from Mattzed (how convenient, you can't find the only thing that would have been actual matter to scumread him lol). @Dark Magician
Dark Magician has been replaced out Due to this. And him haveing a vote in play I am forced to reset the votes. Welcome SB16 who is now filling DM slot.
Dark Magician is now @Stealthbomber16 and all posts will be for DM slot.
Last edited by Mike; December 18th, 2020 at 08:36 PM.
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...I sort of do. I honestly had missed it in my first reads of your setup years ago, I only realized it when I checked it to add it to the Ladder. It's not super obvious in the setup, even though it indeed is repeated many times. Anyway, this doesn't clear Frinckles from being Mafia in a no illuminati world, and this doesn't even completely clear him from being Illuminati anyway since he could fake it, so it doesn't change too much. Still though, if we somehow know there are illuminati at some point, I'd say it looks good for Frinckles.
Waaait, you actually managed to get the individual ISO links as stable links that don't die instantly? I never could. Do you go through the "section > click on the number of posts next to "replies" associated to the thread > click on the number associated to the player's name" process to get those, or did you find another way?
And yes, DM being the top poster is the living proof of the fact post count =/= quality content amount. I'd say the same applies to Frinckles, who's rather high in post count but really didn't significantly address anything but your neutral claim.
Aight fuckers I’ve been reading but I haven’t been able to comprehend any of the spaghetti garbage I’ve read up to this point. Someone said I claimed cit, is that right? Martin is the neutral? What else has happened?
LOL WHAT
Okay, reset all of this stuff about DM, I'm letting SB catch up and speak. I'm giving the slot the benefit of the doubt.
-vote Frinckles
Placing my vote back here due to vote reset; I still want to hear Frinckles' reads, especially the one he has on DM's slot (due to DM's actions).
Oh well, you've already read too much for me to pull the play. DM never claimed illuminati, just normal citizen xD. I love how you actually thought it was possible it had happened, though... and uh, not sure how to read that past the fact it's funny
As for your post, yea tbh just treat this game as if you were a normal sign with you as a "flipped [your role]" and give us your thoughts please.
Really? I have the completely opposite thought process and relate to Mattzed's (or at least what I assume to be mattzed's): getting convinced by your own words to place a vote and splitting it in two posts like this is indicative of either a very deep and specific fake that most people won't even notice or indicative of a genuine townie thinking their post made logical sense and who literally got convinced by it. The latter is much more likely, since it's a natural thing that happens to townies (at least it happens to me sometimes when I'm town), while the former is a really weird thing to think about (and I strongly doubt Renegade would go that far in needlessly sophisticated scum plays).
I’m trying not to meta right now because if I meta then DM is objectively the strongest town read here just based on the fact that he claimed citizen and replaced out. Obviously that doesn’t help me here because I already know I’m green citizen.
The double post strategy is really not an advanced mechanic or even a “strategy” and it’s very easy to fake something like that. I’ve done it multiple times as scum.
Uh, ok. You're a strange person if you really think about faking things like that as scum imo, but then I guess I can understand your point of view. I still don't share it, though.
Hey, have you seen his avatar? This is the Queen's English you're talking about. Case in point.
<3 mike lol
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I mean, any double post in a vacuum is absolutely NAI, but in the context of Mattzed trying to convince people DM is scum and of Renegade making a post conceding he's getting scummy, saying his post convinced himself in a separate post is showing a natural progression. What I'm townreading isn't the doublepost itself, it's what it contains and in which context it was posted.
I... instinctively trust that SB is telling the truth. I like MM's test, but then again I recall a pre-retirement game where scum won because someone had a very specific roleclaim on the spot. (@Mesk514, I think we were in that game, and that scum may have been you)
As much as I had a hard scumread on DM, I think the best play at this point is to have Martin check Stealth tonight. I was suspecting DM being more likely Illuminati than Mafia, and I'd really like to find out. We can resolve his slot D2.
I fully support this course of action and agree with the check, either on Stealth or on Mesk.
And yea there's nothing extremely conclusive, but Stealth already makes more sense (both logic-wise and town-PoV-wise) than his previous slot owner, so... let's give it a run lol.