There’s also a good probability Mesk is Town PR faking Citizen.
So RN they are a Town Lean.
There’s also a good probability Mesk is Town PR faking Citizen.
So RN they are a Town Lean.
Yeah nice Dodge scum.
I would like to make the argument that i find it rather anti-town to start right off the bat pressuring people. There's RNG phase and then just full blown starting with a tunnel.
@MattZed , idc who claimed what, it's a random setup with random roles. People's roles work themselves out as time goes on and you've established who claimed or someone notices crumbling to point out the soft claim later.
It's like 4 hours into the game, I have a whole other 44 hours to do what i want with my day. I admit, I'm rather grumpy, but this is all slot related. I'd rather not get too far into detail with it, but you and MM are totally dick riding each other. Although, it makes me sad to say... Dick riding is more of a you thing than an MM thing. It's not unlike MM to blind tunnel me as town when I'm town. I could honestly probably say i think the only time he's ever given me town points is as scum 😂 you on the other hand always have an agenda regardless of alignment.
but being a dick with your pressure doesn't give you town points... just saying
So do you think MM and MZ are Mafia or Illuminati?
If their Illuminati it’s probably with Renegade.
Also want to point out that if we have Illuminati, Mayor is always scum.
If Mason spawn instead of Mayor then it’s either 1 or both of them.
So if one Mason knows they aren’t Illuminati they always put their buddy.
Although it could be a strat for Mason Illuminati as well, one could bus the other like that.
Or they could just not claim Masons at all but if they go that route then everyone would just know Mason’s are the scum.
*moves a little bit closer to Matt's pocket*
I assume you meant "MM and Matt are in sync" given the context, not "Frinckles and Matt", because I am definetly not seeing the sync between you two xD.
The point about yzb's thoughts being simple mechanical ponderings that are purely NAI is a good one; however, what makes him towny imo is mostly his reaction to Martin's claim. Granted it's not a major townlean, though, and it's highly perishable (keep in a cool, dry place with a lot of future contributions).
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Renegade was rather against you pressuring people because "it's too early" and because "we're veterans trying to impose our vision of Mafia to the people" or something like that? I definetly agree that he needs to do more, but I don't see where you two agreed o.O.
Not sure which one of "soft scumread" and "scumlean" is the most scummy, btw.
So would you say Matt is your top TR MM?
Given from how I’m seeing this.
Even though they aren’t saying it.
Both MM and Matt are applying that they top TR each other.
Which makes me not trust them even more.
Wait, so we're scum for actually trying to play the game? ...
I think I'm gonna stop addressing this kind of accusation from DM unless it have some influence on my reads.
Would you mind providing quotes of this? All I saw from him was trolling about PR hunting, which isn't what I call "quite a bit" of meaningful contributions.
At this point, I'm willing to roll with a Mattzed top townread; nothing has pinged me the wrong way, except the possibility that he could be trying to pocket me, but that's just because he's being highly pro-town by getting people to actually do something, so he has my relatively strong trust atm.
Next TR is yzb, but highly perishable if he doesn't do more today as I said. And then... uh, I don't know if I want to townread you given how poor your reasonings have been, but on the other hand I feel like it's a reason to townread you in a way, so you get a weird towny slot in my mind.
As for my scumreads, I don't have any major ones atm, but the ones I have are Frinckles (PR hunting jokes, meaningless posts and nothing else...?) and perhaps Mesk for being anti-town in her "I'll gladly take the noose to prove you wrong" crap, but that's not beyond her as any alignment, so meh.
We have meaningful posts aplenty now. RVS isn't a goal, it's a mean to attain the meaningful posting stage, and it worked pretty well. I taste the irony of you beginning to post meaningful reads and analysis on both Mattzed and I while saying how rude it is to pressure people early on lol. It's a bit strange that you suddenly appear and actually do something now that we asked it even though you act like you didn't want to and aren't doing it, but I guess it's what we asked for, so it may not be super fair to give you scumpoints for it.
Your willing to roll with it eh?
Interesting.
Usually I don’t be willing to roll.
I go for the decision I come across.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 what a heap of crap he pinged me with a question, that isn't pressure. I pointed out to him I was responding to directed conversation, and that was directed conversation. and yes, it's rather rude to pressure someone right from the beginning. It appears he camein with his mind already made up. I don't care.
again, totally slot related, but you... you're worse than PTB. and ptb has a helmet in every colour for each day of the month, dear lord you're absolutely terrible.
Welp. Going off for good now.-vote FrincklesI want more from this slot, and tomorrow he can't possibly be drunk like I supposed he was today lol, so we'll see. I still have a scumlean on Mesk, for the record.
wow, congratulations, he got me to post... even though i would have had to post anyways, since his call was 17 posts in and it's day 1. derpderpderp.
I don't know you IRL, so how do I know what your real life intelligence is like? so yeah, my image of you sitting with a helmet right now is totally based off how you're playing rn 😂. please display more intelligence in the game, this is a disappointing level for a ladder game.
how cute, everyone's gone to bed.
Anyway's MZ literally said he isn't going to let me get away with not contributing today, as if i wasn't already contributing when it was 13 posts in. that's coming into the game with an agenda.
MM literally voted MZ for his RVS and then said to someone "I'm going back to the pressure mesk plan" like 20 posts into the game when he never mentioned me prior but MZ told him to follow. Then like 20 posts after that he was just like, ooops, i thought i was already on mesk, hehe.
Something funky is going on between these two, and their seemingly more focused on me. MZ focused on pressuring me and MM focused on appeasing MZ. MM is more susceptible to more advanced plays, and I think MZ knows that. So I'm keeping my vote where it is.
and when i say more focused on me, i mean, more focused on me rather than spending an equal amount of time on the neut claim, the other half cit claim... and just voting DM is easy shit cause he opened with a cit claim (don't steal my plays, sir, only a true citizen player can use this play) so... I'm gonna say MZ is exactly how MM read him last game, he appears like he's shopping for lynches. This time it just looks like MM is holding him by the arm as they walk down the aisle shopping together. Still unsure if voluntarily or bound by alignment
also... I don't trust neut claims FYI. NEVER TRUST A SURVIVOR. mod101
@Auwt , sir, get your butt in here.... no one cares that you're sleeping, the game is the most important thing ever. you must come in here and contribute, time is ticking, it's 6 hours into the day, weooooweooooo scum alert, you're not participating... tsktsktsk
@Renegade thoughts on DM?
Sorry to say, but the vote on you is semi-serious at this point. I'm not a fan of how quickly you went to light AtE about last game when pushed about contributions. In my experience, AtE slowly develops and then explodes. It doesn't get rolled out the moment you get slightly prodded lol. If it was Voss that would be one thing, but DM and matt have nothing to do with last game.
I'm not very impressed by the "citi claims are bad" insight either =P.
I would be more into finding suspicious town behaviour.
Looking at each setup, there are 4 out of 6 setups that use pink scums. So 4x3 pink scums = 12 total outcomes
So it remains only 2 out of the 6 with red scums. So 2x2 red scums = 4 total outcomes
It is way less likely to find a red scum over a pink scum.
However finding a pink scum is much harder as they could share the same alignment as we do.
Anyway, even if we end up "random lynching" (i know we surely won't lol) hitting a pink scum should be easier than a red one.
A lot of wifom can be made in this setup as almost all the roles share the illuminati alignment in the different setups.
The fact is, if you end up Jester, you ain't gonna get lynched this game anyway with your claim, so you lose.
If you end up Amnesiac you should have to be lynched, and will most likely lose.
If you end up Survivor you ain't gonna get lynched, but we would never know your role and therefore could be considered as Jester/Amnesiac, so you might also lose.
If you end up killing yourself, so you lose.
Do you see it coming?
I will be honest, either way, with your claim, and the night action you want to do, you are almost certainly dooming yourself.
Now it's up to you.
Why would I be open wolfing? I’m doing quite the opposite actually.
This post here makes me truly feel Rene is scum.
Because
He never mentions anything about perhaps Lynching Illuminati today, as if he doesn’t want to.
He clearly wants me and Martin out of his road which I feel is scum indicative.
He throws shade but doesn’t vote.