S-FM 318: Super Basic Redemption (9P)

[S-FM PowersThatBe]

Oh My God..

On a different note... your posts are fking hilarious rofl.

[S-FM PowersThatBe]

I appreciate it when people try to be subtle about how they view others as idiots. It shows a degree of sophistication that is sadly mostly absent from Mafia communities. I dislike how peoples insecurities and lack of good manners leads them to insult others and berate on them in a direct, aggressive, and relatively unchiseled manner.

[S-FM PowersThatBe]

Berate THEM, not on them. I was going to say ‘dab’ but I changed it at the last second. Also, fuck phone posting.

[S-FM PowersThatBe]

Why am I the only one around?

[S-FM Distorted]

Keep Ya Friends Close And Ya Enemies Closer..

I know you're roleplaying, but would you mind giving some reads? Everything you've said was either off-topic or extremely cryptic (like this post), or just intentionally pointless and dumb lol.

[S-FM Distorted]

You both look like asses from where I'm sitting. This is purely a penis measurement contest and I'm not sure it serves to further town's win condition.

I am drawing my own conclusions from that interaction, and would love to hear yours. You're just poking at stuff and saying "this ain't good". And... this ain't good :P

[S-FM Distorted]

I appreciate it when people try to be subtle about how they view others as idiots. It shows a degree of sophistication that is sadly mostly absent from Mafia communities. I dislike how peoples insecurities and lack of good manners leads them to insult others and berate on them in a direct, aggressive, and relatively unchiseled manner.

Just two groups!

Power.... Town... Role... SHUT UP lol

It was late

It's precisely as serious as the posts before it.

Which means?

-vote s-fm AIVION

[S-FM Distorted]

I appreciate it when people try to be subtle about how they view others as idiots. It shows a degree of sophistication that is sadly mostly absent from Mafia communities. I dislike how peoples insecurities and lack of good manners leads them to insult others and berate on them in a direct, aggressive, and relatively unchiseled manner.

yes, being passive-aggressive is the best and most civilized way to solve conflicts, i agree. /s

[S-FM PowersThatBe]

that being said yagami does feel kind of like numbertwo used to feel as scum (if anyone knows/remembers them). i would be totally willing to vote them today.

[S-FM Distorted]

I like your posts but i have a slight worry you’re trying to pocket me. You seem rather confident of my alignment rather early on, and are defending me right out of the gate.

doubles down on the ptb townread
you may now banish me into the susp realm, I will remain in your pocket either way

What I usually do with my early game [townreads] is push them a little and often put them in this back-of-the-mind scum region for a large part of the game. I dont like getting pocketed and i think most people in general dont. That is why really strong players often get lynched more often as town than as scum - they are so towny as town and so honest people just naturally assume they are concocting a mastee scum plan. I dont feel very good in the presence of unsolicited trust. @S-FM Distorted

well I'm not you i can always jump out of your pocket if so I desire, but currently that is not the case, on the contrary.

[S-FM PowersThatBe]

yes, being passive-aggressive is the best and most civilized way to solve conflicts, i agree. /s

Its not that. You can be superior and whatnot as long as you’re polite and dont get too personal about it. If its funny I wont even mind.

[S-FM PowersThatBe]

I dont think anyone was expecting me to be this nice.

[S-FM Distorted]

I’m pretty mindful of AIVION atm. They are an interesting player for sure and I cannot decide if their pushes are scummy or not.... I believe they are a very atrong player capable of doing what they are doing as scum. If it were any other player (I believe I know who the player behind that account is, as scummy as this is lol), i would be townreading them immediately for their behaviour this game. They are definitely not someone to fuck with and should be kept around for at least 3 days. I feel like their alignment will become clearer as the game goes on... and even as scum they would still advance the game state.

"They could be town but they could also be scum. They're good. I think I know their COM."
...

I don't see how they're towny.

[S-FM Distorted]

Its not that. You can be superior and whatnot as long as you’re polite and dont get too personal about it. If its funny I wont even mind.

Ah, then I agree with you.

[S-FM PowersThatBe]

@Mesk514 lets OGC.

[S-FM Light_Yagami]

I know you're roleplaying, but would you mind giving some reads? Everything you've said was either off-topic or extremely cryptic (like this post), or just intentionally pointless and dumb lol.

Day One Reads Are Kinda Trash Not Gonna Lie..

[S-FM Distorted]

Day One Reads Are Kinda Trash Not Gonna Lie..

so is this attitude =P
D1 reads sometimes are trash because noone has posted anything serious yet. Guess what happens D2 if you don't post anything serious because of that... The same thing!

[S-FM PowersThatBe]

@Mike looking at the setup the lynch type is majority. With how inactive this game hs been it will be very difficult to get the required votes for a lynch. Can you change it to plurality with majority please? It could also help with activity, or at least make it more spread out throughout the day. I really hate it when people who made like 5 posts show up at EoD and you have to explain the game state to them.

[S-FM PowersThatBe]

I may just go for an activity policy lynch on d1 lol. As horrible as that is, this kind of activity is unacceptable. We’re more than 24h into d1 and there arent even 300 posts in yet. Some people barely have more posts than the host and with some of them being 90% RVS shitposting.

[S-FM Stealthbomber16]

@Mike looking at the setup the lynch type is majority. With how inactive this game hs been it will be very difficult to get the required votes for a lynch. Can you change it to plurality with majority please? It could also help with activity, or at least make it more spread out throughout the day. I really hate it when people who made like 5 posts show up at EoD and you have to explain the game state to them.

I would actually request he does not do this.

[S-FM PowersThatBe]

Its not that. You can be superior and whatnot as long as you’re polite and dont get too personal about it. If its funny I wont even mind.

I would actually request he does not do this.

Why?

[S-FM PowersThatBe]

No clue why that got quoted as well

[Mike]

@Mike looking at the setup the lynch type is majority. With how inactive this game hs been it will be very difficult to get the required votes for a lynch. Can you change it to plurality with majority please? It could also help with activity, or at least make it more spread out throughout the day. I really hate it when people who made like 5 posts show up at EoD and you have to explain the game state to them.

I will not change game rules in the middle of a game.

[Mike]

I will not change game rules in the middle of a game.

The Rules that will be in the game:
Same as the Original setup with
1. 10 min posts a day.
2. Do not be hostile trying to repeat the the old game.
3. Do not disrespect the players or player names you may have been RNGed. (Just have fun and make it fun for all).
4. This is Plurality/ Majority.
5. 48/24 HR Day night
6. If you are afraid of getting a name you don't like DONT SIGN!!!.
7. Suicides are not allowed.
8. Skips are allowed.
9. DN and LW are not allowed

[S-FM AIVION]

Which means?

-vote s-fm AIVION

It means my reads weren't particularly serious! Sorry if I wasn't clear.

Where is everyone?

[S-FM AIVION]

Why Do We Need To Find The Consort First, Why Does It Matter Who We Find First All Scum Will Die Anyway..

Finding the consort first is preferable so we can stop them from roleblocking. Finding Mafioso is good, too, but if we find mafioso first then we still have to deal with roleblocking AND a night kill.

[S-FM PowersThatBe]

It means my reads weren't particularly serious! Sorry if I wasn't clear.

Where is everyone?

They looked pretty damn serious to me, lol.

[S-FM PowersThatBe]

Day One Reads Are Kinda Trash Not Gonna Lie..

You Are Kira! You Are Justice!! You Are The Champion of The Light!!! Death To The False Gods!!!!

[S-FM Stealthbomber16]

-vote skip

There aren't enough players to have a day 1 yeet. I'd rather have the game go to day 3. Town can only misyeet twice.

[S-FM Stealthbomber16]

I have just discovered there are 2 extra players & town can afford another misyeet (total of 3). But since it's just slow because day 1, let's just skip...unless anyone has any convincing arguments, I really don't have anyone pinned to be yeeted.

[S-FM Stealthbomber16]

@Mike What are you going to do if yzb doesn't make 10 posts before end of day?

[Mike]

@Mike What are you going to do if yzb doesn't make 10 posts before end of day?

This would be up to Mod. No one will be Mod killed for that. I would talk to player and see if replacement was needed or not. Even thu it is anno if a player is replaced the new player will use same account. I would make a post that this player is replaced and same account is used.

[S-FM Light_Yagami]

I have just discovered there are 2 extra players & town can afford another misyeet (total of 3). But since it's just slow because day 1, let's just skip...unless anyone has any convincing arguments, I really don't have anyone pinned to be yeeted.

I Agree With The Blueberry Duck..

-vote skip

[S-FM Magoroth]

@Mike looking at the setup the lynch type is majority. With how inactive this game hs been it will be very difficult to get the required votes for a lynch. Can you change it to plurality with majority please? It could also help with activity, or at least make it more spread out throughout the day. I really hate it when people who made like 5 posts show up at EoD and you have to explain the game state to them.

It's already plurality

[S-FM PowersThatBe]

-vote skip

There aren't enough players to have a day 1 yeet. I'd rather have the game go to day 3. Town can only misyeet twice.

Town can mislynch three times. There is no way I’m skipping lol.

[S-FM Magoroth]

Let's not fucking skip. Let's use the information we get from votes.

Spoiler : votes :

Spoiler : Mag :

TOWN
Mag
PTB
Mike
Aivion
Yzb
Distorted
MM
Stealthbomber - wanting majority
Light Yagami
SCUM

Spoiler : AIVION :

Current Vote List

TOWNLEAN
Mag
Aivion
Yzb
MM
STEALTHBOMBER

SCUMLEAN
Light Yagami IMPOSTER WEEB
PTB too paranoid to much projection
Distorted saying things that look like they make sense but don't stand up to any scrutiny (SEE POST 66)

[these are two groups]

Spoiler : Distorted :

from most towny/scummy to least towny/scummy

TOWN
Distorted (me)
PowersThatBe

NULL
everyone else

SCUMMY
Magoroth
AIVION
MM
Yzb

[S-FM PowersThatBe]

If we skip we are going into d2 with zero information to go off of. We need to lynch someone today; its plurality so whoever gets the most votes gets lynched.

[S-FM Magoroth]

I dropped Aivion to bottom of my 2 groups because she asked some of those bullshit questions about "Oh are you tryharding".
I dropped Stealthbomber bc they suggested we skip, and that we use majority which is STRICTLY anti-town.
Light is role playing almost like Light, but unfortunately means that they're useless.

[S-FM Magoroth]

Here are the current votes based off the 3 people that have explicitly stated their ranking prefs

[spoiler=input]
{
"mag": [["light"], ["sb"], ["distorted"], ["yzb"], ["aivion"], ["mike"], ["ptb"], ["mag"]],
"aivion": [["light", "ptb", "distorted"], ["mag", "aivion", "yzb", "mm", "sb"]],
"distorted": [["distorted"], ["ptb"], ["mike", "sb", "light"], ["mag"], ["aivion"], ["mm"], ["yzb"]]
}
[/spoiiler]

Spoiler : output :

[
[
"distorted"
],
[
"light",
"ptb"
],
[
"sb"
],
[
"yzb",
"aivion"
],
[
"mike"
],
[
"mag"
],
[
"mm"
]
]

[S-FM Stealthbomber16]

If we skip we are going into d2 with zero information to go off of. We need to lynch someone today; its plurality so whoever gets the most votes gets lynched.

We get information when someone flips tomorrow and Sheriff will get a check (which does not need to be revealed, but that is information nonetheless).

I dropped Aivion to bottom of my 2 groups because she asked some of those bullshit questions about "Oh are you tryharding".
I dropped Stealthbomber bc they suggested we skip, and that we use majority which is STRICTLY anti-town.
Light is role playing almost like Light, but unfortunately means that they're useless.

Skipping isn't anti-town if you look at the game this one was based off. Blindly yeeting on a slow day 1 is pretty antitown in this setup imo (also I kept looking at the original-original setup thinking there were 7 players in this game). You can't approach every mafia game the same way.

You called Light useless but yzb came in here to talk about movies and left. Yzb has less posts than the host. At least Light is around to vote and has used it.

[S-FM Magoroth]

Here are the current votes based off the 3 people that have explicitly stated their ranking prefs

Spoiler : input :

{
"mag": [["light"], ["sb"], ["distorted"], ["yzb"], ["aivion"], ["mike"], ["ptb"], ["mag"]],
"aivion": [["light", "ptb", "distorted"], ["mag", "aivion", "yzb", "mm", "sb"]],
"distorted": [["distorted"], ["ptb"], ["mike", "sb", "light"], ["mag"], ["aivion"], ["mm"], ["yzb"]]
}

Spoiler : output :

[
[
"distorted"
],
[
"light",
"ptb"
],
[
"sb"
],
[
"yzb",
"aivion"
],
[
"mike"
],
[
"mag"
],
[
"mm"
]
]

Oops, this is fixed now.

[S-FM Magoroth]

I'd rather people didn't vote than vote to skip. Hot damn that's horrible.

[S-FM PowersThatBe]

I’m not waiting for the sheriff to out themselves. The sheriff can die tonight lol.

[S-FM Stealthbomber16]

Nah I'm not going to mis-yeet the Sheriff or Doctor today. I'd lose all motivation to play if that happened.

[S-FM PowersThatBe]

-vote S-FM Light_Yagami

Honestly, I can get behind this lynch. Easily lpl

[S-FM PowersThatBe]

Nah I'm not going to mis-yeet the Sheriff or Doctor today. I'd lose all motivation to play if that happened.

What do you do in games with no PRs? Do you just let the scum win?

[S-FM Stealthbomber16]

-vote S-FM Light_Yagami

Honestly, I can get behind this lynch. Easily lpl

Why? Low hanging fruit?

[S-FM Stealthbomber16]

What do you do in games with no PRs? Do you just let the scum win?

I don't know if I have ever played a game without PR. But every game I approach as its needed. Day 1 yeet is scum sided in this setup.

[S-FM Magoroth]

I don't know if I have ever played a game without PR. But every game I approach as its needed. Day 1 yeet is scum sided in this setup.

I'm willing to be convinced because you used the word yeet here.

[S-FM Magoroth]

I guessed PTB's vote preferences based off the way his votes moved to this

Spoiler : ptb guess vote :

light
mag
mm
everyone else
ptb

No one else has been voting.