Unknown v Martian 1 Dragon Head
Naz v Renegade 1 or 2 scum
Naz, Frostbyte, Unknown, Martian, Renegade 3 scum
Martian lynch solves Unknown at cost of likely town BD
Unknown lynch solves Martian, Resolves Butler CC, and sheds light on Renegade v Naz while confirming Renegade v Naz by night acitons
Naz lynch resolves Naz v Renegade although doesn't clear Renegade at cost of potential detective
Renegade lynch resolves Naz v Renegade although doesn't clear Naz at cost of unlikely locksmith
Frostbyte lynch resolves nothing but Frostbyte. (@Frinckles)
I feel like Unknown should mechanically be the lynch because it is most likely from given information as well as it solves the majority of the game. No lynch is preferable to Martian lynch imo with Martian being easily verified by Detective peek if we are willing to trust Naz and Martian case being Tinfoil.
I also think we should be more solid as a town before entering night on night actions with the amount of slots we can solve from coordinated night actions. If we don't want to go that route given that Wifom protection is lost thats cool but we should all be on the same page about it. Right now if we went into night the night actions would be whatever people felt like and we couldn't hold a player to an action because town coordination is so poor.
Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.
anyway I'm hammering in 5 minutes
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or matt can hammer
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Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.
I think you're scum protecting Martin at this point. I could excuse some of your play recently as you being drunk on the weekend, but at this point I can't buy it.
How in the world are you calling Martin's case "tinfoil" when I, a confirmed town, have made it several times beyond mere speculation?
-vote MartinGG99
No yeet just hurts town. I think you're likely CA and want a no yeet to be able to get your night action off.
Also your PoE is bad. It is totally possible for Naz and Renegade to both be town.
The only way to justify Martian is to leverage his read while ignoring all the rest of the information in this game. His case is tinfoil because it requires a seeded busdriver CC D1 to be the DH while ignoring the CC between me and Unknown and the case I presented on Unknown.
Honestly if I didnt have you peeked I would scum read you for constantly pushing to kill the BD which is the greatest threat to the Triad winning through night actions while also being a claim thats verifiable through night actions. I feel that lynching Martin is a bad move.
Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.
I spent hours reading you. It wasn't even just reading you I was reading you in context to Yzb and I stopped when I found what I presented at the end of yesterday. I did not post it because it felt like I was just grabbing stuff and pointing to how it could mean you are not town which I hate. When I noticed that you had a potential conformation of Martin being scum and didnt include it in his read I trashed it all and just built off that logic.
I can only say thats why I didnt play to the end of D3. I was pretty pissy about spending that much time and coming to a conclusion I felt had you lock scum just to have that ripped out from under me in-spite of it not making sense within the OoO
Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.
If I were TownHelz, I'd see 5 possible scum teams:
Martin+Unknown+FrostByte (with FrostByte Triad Any)
Martin+Unknown+Renegade (with Renegade Moulder)
Martin+Unknown+Naz (with Naz Spy)
Martin+FrostByte+Naz (with Martin DH, FrostByte CA, Naz Spy)
Unknown+FrostByte+Naz (with Unknown DH, FrostByte CA, Naz Spy)
For townHelz, most of the remaining setups have Martin AND Unknown as scum. Giving an extra night, ESPECIALLY IF NAZ CHECKS NOT THE CA, gives us much more room for error.
Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.
You, Renegade, Frostbyte
Im not sure why that option is excluded in Matts options list.
Renegade I built a case on, Frostbyte had some very fucked off pushes on Matt even when Frostbyte had the knowledge that Matt was 100% town and you because I doubt 2 butters is a thing while also believing Martins claim over yours.
Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.
Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.
Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.
Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.
Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.
Do you mind if I wild out
A little?
'Cause I'm just a little drunk
And I wanna come party with you
A little
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im gonna do the thing in 2 minutes
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Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.
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Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.
engaging hyper-drive
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Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.
@Helz , if you're town:
SHEEP ME. SHEEP ME NOW.
We are not going to get anything out of Unknown in time that is changing today's result. If you've given up, then GIVE UP AND FOLLOW THE CONFIRMED TOWN.
bruh
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Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.
This is goofy.
On the most basic level the Unknown vs Martin is mechanically 1v1. Every other 1v1 is subjective. I do not see how my reads can function without a Martian DH after what Matt pointed out so that is what it is.
But there is still no rush to end the day. I will also note that Martian v Unknown can easily be WvW
Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.
helz unconfirmed thinks he gets to hammer
hahahaha
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