I don't see how Unknown seeing or not seeing some Auwt claification would be alignment-indicative, though.
Yeahh.. Im done for the day. Really thought I had a nice clean solve for Naz/Renegade and a resolution for Myself/Unknown for the rest of the players.
Helz is just gona go get drunk now.
Remember if Frinckles flips from this Lynch Renegade is 100% scum. I still don't think I am wrong about Unknown but he is just going to repeat what Matt said now so W/e.
Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.
If a BD switches himself into another player getting switched, he will surely get switched instead
But if he got switched, his action got cancelled, meaning he could never get switched
But if he didn't get switched, his action still processed, meaning the switcher visited him and he got switched
But if he got switched, his action got cancelled, meaning he could never get switched
But if he didn't get switched, his action still processed, meaning the switcher visited him and he got switched
But if he got switched, his action got cancelled, meaning he could never get switched
But if he didn't get switched, his action still processed, meaning the switcher visited him and he got switched
???
Okay folks what are we waiting for?
The good news about the OoO is even if I'm targeted tonight I can lock a house first.
I'm only about 30% through the posts Helz has made this game. (finished #1152) I don't think I'm going to make it by EoD.
Mild tinfoil: if DM flips not-DH, I think Martin is a decent candidate for DH. He's admitted to targeting the N1 lock target, and he himself wasn't the target of the N1 night kill unless some TPR is holding back. Bus Driver is a claim a detective wouldn't follow, and he very well could have made the calculated "I would like a bus driver to die; there probably isn't a second one, so my CC won't get CC'd. He's still scummy AF so I may still get believed."
@Helz , does this motivation seem consistent with what D1 Martin posted?
(keep in mind this theory goes out the window if DM flips DH, in which case the lack of an N1 kill is perfectly explained)
Thank you for showing how desperate you are to scum-paint me in two different ways.
1.) This was actually clarified to me in two different ways after making this point. The first being that deathworlds action would not have gone through in the event that they become switcher that night (I believe it was MattZed who originally responded to me with this, which made me realize that the point wasn't useful regardlesss).
2.) Someone said MattZed was witched into Martin, not Frinckles. Even if deathworlds action still went through, it still would have been on someone Renegade didn't target and then this argument would have been invalid regardless.
Kinda weird that you think I'm somehow pushing a 'naz might be town' angle when I've pretty much scum-read them the entire game. One post about them having solid explanation for their night action does not mean I think they are town.
MattZed I really do see the argument that you're trying to put together about how we could both potentially be town, but I think after the last argument by Helz he would have been reading into that situation a lot more had he actually thought I was triad and not making me look like triad.
it doesn't make mechanical sense for you both to be town, anyway. If Helz is town and Unknown is town, then neither me or mattzed can be DH/CA. Frinckles and Naz can't be DA/CA. Martin or Renegade being DA/CA requires some major tin-foiling. That leaves one person to fill two roles. Impossible.
Martin's been asking questions about how to use the BD role and having genuine reactions about it since before he even hardclaimed BD on d1 to "CC" Mag. If Martin is not BD and also doesn't even have any switching abilities like operator or sorcerer his play requires serious balls of steel
Yes but for both Unknown and Helz to be town he wouldn't just need to be BD he'd have to make that balls of steel play as one of the critical roles DH / CA.
I'd expect more indications that he has that kind of personality in other games. Frinckles would bring it up, for example. Hell, I'd expect more indications he has the personality required to make that play in this game.
I don't know if it was an intentional crumb, but he OOC asked Auwt a question about how operator and BD interact, and afterwards gave this sincere "oh no, then a BD has to be super careful about how they use their role :/". Maybe I could see that coming from an operator... maybe... Not a DH/CA tho lmao
Martin is 99% likely a BD. I am not willing to entertain the possibility he is not pending DM flip. Waste of time.
He knew I locked Frinckle so he was either DH or BD. Waste of time for now.
Again, close to end of day, be mindful of the goofy paths that scum may take to signal to one another so they don't get targeted by DH tonight.
Suggesting Marino is NOT BD is pretty damn goofy to me.
Helz and MZ haven't voted. Waiting to spring a trap perhaps?