Ah yes, so we should all be apathetic potatoes as soon as people suspect us because info lynches are good. /s
Self-preservation is a basic principle of Mafia: each player (minus jesters) wants to fulfill his win condition, and this is usually harder to do when you're dead, especially if your death wasted a day for town because you were lynched instead of having a scum lynched. I won't go as far as the Mafia "theorists" that claim self-preservation is always towny, but it certainly isn't scummy. Do you have any other reason to scumread Oberon? I just don't see why this train is a thing atm.
Also, majority lynch sucks, people have to place their votes early to avoid no-lynch
The logic doesn't check out at all, and it isn't even true, Frost is saying that Oberon's play makes no sense from a town PoV (which is wrong, but is not a "perspective slip"). You're both scummy, but this is very probably not mafia vs mafia, and nearly EVERYONE in this game is scummy...
Excuse you? He insulted one person and then was a little snarky to a few other people. Stop blowing shit out of proportion and being disingenuous. If anything, me not being around d1 should mean my perspective is less biased by hurt feefees.
If you're not gonna actually read the thread then don't even bother commenting.
There are 4 or 5 of us actually playing. Out of 9.
Fuck this low effort bullshit. Don't fucking sign if you're not gonna at least read the godamn thread before you throw your uninformed 2 cents in.
My prediction:
zedus SK, Frinck and MM scum
Mag you just can't say I'm top priority Lynch and then totally forget about me.
Literally what the fuck
Thank you Anonymous Donor
I really impressed how often you all using "logic" word in this games. I community, where noone even knows what "logic" is. In community, which will lynch you for solving game in 3 days. Where like every of you thinks he is some "pro" player, because... well, he just "knows" it, if you aren't agree, you are scum. Noone here can spot some obvious things like mafia hammering someone in last seconds. Noone here using vote paths and strategy checks. You are all inside of your shitty "feelings", which never gives you win, but you still trust in that shit. And you call this feelings "logic".
Examples of your "logic":
Moronic bullshit, comes from your terrible american egoistic mindset. You think only about your personal survival, not about your team goals, and like 90% of you are this kind of. Mafia is a team game, and sacrificing yourself to open some important info, especially at early game, is useful strategy. Only scum will just randomly point around on everyone with "lynch him, not me", like you doing now. If you are citizen, it's better for you to form up your last will until you die. Well, maybe the problem is that you never use last wills here? That's like in my first game, then I said "ok, lynch me, and after I flip citizen, just get the lasts who hammered me and you will have your mafia". Surely I was right about that, but this community have Dory fish's memory, and continue this shit "readings" around make mafia easy win. Same as in anti-vaxers game, then I completely solved the game with 100% victory strategy, bonobos with their "logic" lynched me for that. I really don't care about that, I already accepted that I playing with bonobos, but main thing for me was not surviving, main thing for me was town following my strategy. Fortunately they did, so I go to the graveyard with my common facepalm and seeing town winning without me, using my strat. That's then this community made a great step for understanding teamwork. Looks like that was the only one step in history.
Logic - is then you, Oberon, moved me to your top tier town list, probably because you think I will instantly remove my vote from you after that (as it is accepted in this community). After you see that not happens, you waited for Moscow midnight, then everyone knows I will go to sleep, and moved me from "top 1 town" to "top 1 scum", to receive opportunity of lynch me (you have bonobos like DM for that) then I can't even answer for you. And then Moscow morning comes you moved your agression of Frinckles. This things shows what you realy want - survive in any case, even if this will cost town a FBI man death. Maybe that is this shitty american egoism you are fullfilled with. But more likely that's just basic scum strategy, used by russian 12 years old boyz playing mafia in school. This is scum-indicative, and this is what scums in this community doing in EVERY game. Gyrlander painted that well:
Idk are Oberon SK or mafia for real, but everything he doing shows him as scumlike player.
Well, now some important things you will ignore tomorrow. This is kind of my last will:
I asked Gyrlander 3 times about this:
This is my 1st question.
He just ignored it.
This is my 2nd question (there was a quote inside):
His answer was kind of bullshit:
And I have to ask him 3rd time:
But he ignored it again.
According to this I have reasoning now to think Gyrlander can be mafia. That doesn't matter is Oberon his mafia teammate or SK, because mafia is not interested in lynching SK at this moment. They need him to kill FBI man. If SK dies, FBI man can reveal and easy lead town. Framing ability is weak, because every checked citizen will be put into "immortal list" and after we will have 2 checked citizens, game will be solved. I should point that Gyrlander voted Frinckles with Oberon and that kid expelled for academic failure from Hogwarts.
This actions requires explaination.
I agree with plan C.
Even if game is already over, I am still agree, why not?
Also, Frostbyte get a lot of town points from me, even with some wrong conclusions he made. I think he is kinda trusted for me now.
I agree with plan C.
Even if game is already over, I am still agree, why not?
I'm Romanian
I don't mean that bullshit egoism and egocentrism is 100% part of every american, it's just typical for their culture. It doesn't means there is no romanians or russians with this mindset. But the difference is heavy then you look from collective mindset perspective (like my). There is proverb "I would not go on reconnaissance with him" in Russia. You can say that about person, fixed on himself, with egoistic priority other then team goal. That kind of persons will just betray everyone and everything to survive. That's how most of this community players act in game. Also, everyone here sure that the others doing the same. That's why my playstyle is beyond the understanding of this community, despite the fact that there is nothing complicated about it. And noone even try to grow up and look at the world wider, not get hung up on himself.
Well, that is offtopic.
I have some strategy things, but you all don'g give a fuck about strategy. So I will just say main things:
1. Mafia is not interested in lynching. They are immune to FBI man now. Also they are immune for sk attack now. They are ok with sk killing people around.
2. If SK hit town, there will be -1 town, that's good both for mafia and for SK. If SK hit mafia, mafia losing vest and survive. Will SK hit mafia again next night? No, he will not. His primary goal is kill FBI man, not mafia. If FBI man dies, his next target will probably be the mafia he hit before (if he hit one).
3. FBI man doing his job, and the more nights he survives the less place for hiding SK left. If FBI man found sk, he will probably reveal and point on that. After that SK will be lynched and FBI man will leads the town. Framing is shit ability, because the main goal for FBI man is get "not suspicious" from 2 players after SK dies, and just lynch others. GG.
So, I think, mafia at this moment will not be interested in lynching SK or lynching at all. Time works for mafia now. This will be changed only then SK dies or FBI man dies. That is important.
I agree with plan C.
Even if game is already over, I am still agree, why not?
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dict...0ad%20absurdum
There very much was a logical response to the argument. It literally leads to that conclusion. Note that I'm not saying you are dumb, but rather that the reasoning and the conclusion its premises lead to are. What isn't logical or nice is insulting me for disagreeing with you. But okay, since this seems to be the language you understand, I'll get into it too: Stop bitching at anyone who has an opinion that differs from yours and start talking with others normally.
Here you go: this is a shit kneejerk reaction. Hopefully we can get beyond that in this game as well as in the future ones. I like you, but it's just not fun (or productive) when we get into this kind of discussion. Now that this is said, I'll just address the logic in your other posts.
Argumentum ad absurdum. I only expressed a natural conclusion from your premises: if lynching town gives town info and town shouldn't/don't fight their lynch, then we should all surrender as soon as people start suspecting us and get lynched. That is obviously wrong (absurd given the goal of the game), yet is a natural conclusion if we assume what you said was right; therefore, your views, which I used as premises, must be wrong.
In other words: I didn't say you ever said we should all strive to get lynched as town. I said your reasoning leads to this conclusion. That's different.
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Mmm, fair, I may have misexpressed my thoughts here. I was absolutely not offended by him btw (although I just don't like when insults are around, I was hurt or w/e lol). My point is that many people were attacked or shut off in one way or another by him, so analyzing the kill under that angle is probably irrelevant.
@Oberon
I love this site.
I'm a little busy atm, but I'll respond in an hour or so.
sorry, just got caught with my pants down
I’m focusing on Mafia RN, not SK.
OOOOKEY. Let's go. I'm gonna reread now. I'm going to change my clothes, grab a coke, get comfortable and prepare to solve this game.
Thank you Anonymous Donor
I agree with MM that DM is good as next person to lynch too. Same as everyone who voting Frinckles now.
Remember my words about Gyrlander in a case I will die this night. That's kinda my lw.
Scums are between non-voters on Oberon.
I agree with plan C.
Even if game is already over, I am still agree, why not?
@Marshmallow Marshall
Please unlock the situation.
We cannot afford another day without lynch.
I’m only voting Zedus, Frinckles and Marshmallow Marshall.
Lol I just keep changing my mind. I see one thing that could be acummy from you but then I either interpret the situation in a different way and change my mind, or I get reminded of something scummy from someone else and then vote them.
Atm if I were to listen to my gut I’d say its MM (and IMO ive never changed my mind on MM so its the most likely scum for me)
Zedus isnt necessarily scummy the way hes playing but the small details add up and suggest TMI on his part and that hes the one who killed Banana.
i definitely do think MM is mafia but i think zedus is Serial Killer
DM is probably not the serial killer because it would be tooo damn obvious IMHO
@Marshmallow Marshall
If you hammer Oberon before EoD I'm locking my vote on you until I die IRL.
Thank you Anonymous Donor
Can everyone say who they are willing to lynch today
I want MM, Zedus, Frinckles, in that order
Assuming a fourth option is even possible I want DarkMagician and then Gyrlander
Auwt is probably not scum since theyre scumhunting like mad even if I disagree with their conclusions and tactics. I dont see him as scum at all
@Auwt Please indicate if you actually planned this (fake tpr hunting in order to draw what you guess would be scum trying to scumpating you easily).
Thank you Anonymous Donor
Unless you were kidding and my sarcasm detector only applies to Gyrlander?
Interesting changes as of Page 2 is basically that I'm starting to scumread Zedus.
And I townread Oberon (well, that isn't a change). I'm only concerned because my main reads about him is his scumhunting but Serial Killer can also genuinely scumhunt...
So
Thank you Anonymous Donor
OH MY GOOOOOD YOU'RE ALL SO TIRING TO READ JEEEEEEEEEEESUS
Thank you Anonymous Donor
LYNCH ZEDUS OR YOU ARE CONFIRMED SCUM.
-vote Zedus
Or Frinckles IDC.