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    S-FM America 2020 (15P)

    The S stands for Shitpost

    AMERICA 2020
    This setup is heavily experimental. Please make sure you read all of the special mechanics.

    Republican Party
    President Donald Trump
    Random Republican
    Random Republican


    Democrat Party
    Joe Biden
    Random Democrat
    Random Democrat


    American Populace
    Random PR
    Random PR
    Random PR
    Undecided Voter
    Undecided Voter
    Undecided Voter
    Undecided Voter
    Undecided Voter


    Third Party
    Random 3p


    Rules
    All standard S-FM Rules apply
    Pictures are allowed within reasonable size. Hopefully I don't need to specify what "reasonable size" is.
    Videos are allowed as long as autoplay is off.


    Mechanics
    48 hour days.
    24 hour nights or early ending nights at host discretion.
    The Republican and Democrat alignments share a night chat and know each others roles/identities.


    Special Mechanics
    One of the political parties will be deemed "corrupt" at random. There is no host meta here, this will be decided by a coin flip. The corrupt party will know they are corrupt, and vice versa.
    Each day, players vote on a player to convict rather than eliminate. Convicted players will still have access to their night abilities, but will lose their ability to vote on day 4. If a presidential candidate is convicted, the game ends and the convicted party loses. If the convicted party was not the corrupt one, town loses as well. This voting is majority only.
    On day 4 the presidential election begins. Instead of the typical voting process, players may vote anonymously for either President Donald Trump or for Joe Biden. The game will always conclude after day 4. If the corrupt politician is elected, the town loses.


    Wincons
    Republican Party: Elect Donald Trump as the President of the United States
    Democrat Party: Elect Joe Biden as the President of the United States
    American Populace: Elect the candidate that is not corrupt as the President of the United States


    Spoiler : Rolecards :

    It's important to note these rolecards are all meant to be farcical/satirical and do not represent any specific views on any of the real life counterparts.
    Spoiler : Republican Party :

    President Donald Trump
    Each night you may publish a tweet with whatever message you wish.
    The tweet will be published under the name @realDonaldTrump.

    If you are Corrupt, you gain an extra vote on day 4. In addition, you gain another vote per day that a player was not convicted.

    EX: "@realDonaldTrump tweeted this:"
    Fox News Reporter
    Each day you may send another player an article for them to fill out.
    They may fill out the article that night. Whatever they choose to write will be published at the start of the following day.

    If you are Corrupt, one time you may choose to give yourself an article.

    EX: "The following interview was on the front page of the news:"
    Mike Pence
    At night you may investigate a player, learning their alignment. (Rep/Dem/Undecided/3p)

    If you are Corrupt, one time you may audit a player in addition to investigating them, removing their abilities.

    EX: "Your target is a(n) X"
    EX: "You were audited! You have lost your abilities."
    Mitch McConnell
    At night you may filibuster a player, roleblocking them.

    If you are Corrupt, one time you can remove your target's vote at night in addition to roleblocking them. You cannot do this on day 4.

    EX: "Your night action was filibustered."
    EX: "Your vote for the day has been removed! You cannot vote today."
    Rudy Giuliani
    At night you may track a player, learning who they visit and who visited them,

    If you are Corrupt, you also learn who they voted for the previous day.

    EX: "Your target visited X and was visited by Y, Z."
    EX: "Your target voted for X."


    Spoiler : Democrat Party :

    Joe Biden
    Each night you may publish a tweet with whatever message you wish.
    The tweet will be published under the name @JoeBiden.

    If you are Corrupt, you gain an extra vote on day 4. In addition, you gain another vote per day that a player was not convicted.

    EX: "@JoeBiden tweeted this:"
    MSNBC Reporter
    Each day you may send another player an article for them to fill out.
    They may fill out the article that night. Whatever they choose to write will be published at the start of the following day.

    If you are Corrupt, one time you may choose to give yourself an article.

    EX: "The following interview was on the front page of the news:"
    Barack Obama
    At night you may investigate a player, learning their alignment. (Rep/Dem/Undecided/3p)

    If you are Corrupt, one time you may audit a player in addition to investigating them, removing their abilities.

    EX: "Your target is a(n) X"
    EX: "You were audited! You have lost your abilities."
    Nancy Pelosi
    At night you may filibuster a player, roleblocking them.

    If you are Corrupt, one time you can remove your target's vote at night in addition to roleblocking them. You cannot do this on day 4.

    EX: "Your night action was filibustered."
    EX: "Your vote for the day has been removed! You cannot vote today."
    Kamala Harris
    At night you may track a player, learning who they visit and who visited them,

    If you are Corrupt, you also learn who they voted for the previous day.

    EX: "Your target visited X and was visited by Y, Z."
    EX: "Your target voted for X."


    Spoiler : American Populace :

    Undecided Voter
    You have no night ability.
    Independent Reporter
    Each day you may send another player an article for them to fill out.
    They may fill out the article that night. Whatever they choose to write will be published at the start of the following day.

    EX: "The following interview was on the front page of the news:"
    Political Investigator
    At night you may investigate a player, learning their political alignment.

    EX: "Your target is a registered democrat/republican/third party voter / Your target is not a registered party voter."
    Paparazzi
    At night you may follow a player, learning who they visit and who visited them.

    EX: "Your target visited X and was visited by Y, Z."
    Ballot Counter
    One time at night you may run a player's ballot, learning what they voted for the previous day.

    EX: "Your target voted for X."
    Auditor
    One time at night you may audit a player, stripping them of all night actions.
    This fails if you target Joe Biden or Donald Trump.

    EX: "You successfully audited your target."
    EX: "Your audit failed."
    Debate Moderator
    During the night you may choose to reveal yourself as the debate moderator at the beginning of the following day. When you reveal you must pick two players to share a private day chat which you may read but NOT post in. The day chat is valid only for that single day.

    EX: "X has revealed himself as the Debate Moderator!"
    EX: "The Debate Moderator has invited you to a debate hall."


    Spoiler : Third Party :

    Maniac
    If you are convicted of a felony, you exit the game with a victory.
    If you are unable to be convicted by day four, you must convict the corrupt party to win.
    State Prosecutor
    You have a target: X.
    If you convict your target of a felony, you exit the game with a victory.
    If you are unable to convict your target by day four, you must convict the corrupt party to win.




    Spoiler : Order of Operations :

    Day End
    A. Interview requests are sent out

    Night Start

    Night End
    1. Roleblocks
    2. Articles published + Tweets published
    3. All investigative roles
    4. Auditing
    5. Debate Moderator reveals
    Day Start
    Last edited by Stealthbomber16; September 20th, 2023 at 06:04 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Unfunny View Post
    How dare you send me another box of cereal
    Quote Originally Posted by ChannelMiner View Post
    Anyways I shot Brad due to my morbid fear of zombies.

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    Re: S-FM America 2020

    This is gonna be my changelog now

    Spoiler : November 3 (Day 1 of the election) :

    Started the setup

    Spoiler : November 4 (Day 2 of the election) :

    I need a name for the republican agent role
    Each faction has 4 pr roles right now. Gonna probably come up with one more.
    Added green journalist. Need more town prs. 7 sounds like a good number. Will add a cop and an agent, but I need some more ideas.

    Spoiler : December 8 (Pretty far after the election) :

    Added a bunch of PRs. Ready for review.

    Spoiler : september 2023 :

    Reworked voting. Now players vote to convict any player on days 1-3. Convicted players lose their vote.
    Reworked 3ps
    Reworded Debate Moderator
    Last edited by Stealthbomber16; September 20th, 2023 at 06:06 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Unfunny View Post
    How dare you send me another box of cereal
    Quote Originally Posted by ChannelMiner View Post
    Anyways I shot Brad due to my morbid fear of zombies.

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    Re: S-FM America 2020

    APPROVED

    Spoiler : . :
    (just kidding)
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Re: S-FM America 2020

    This seems like it could be fun and hilarious. I'll read through it and see if I can help with suggestions when I'm sober lol
    FMX: fm Kevinpowers - Citizen (WIN)
    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    I will go ahead and fuck this cat
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Heavy Handed View Post
    yeah I'm not gonna sit around here analyzing the fucking particle fluctuations in the quantum foam or whatever the fuck trying to find shit on D1

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    Re: S-FM America 2020

    @Stealthbomber16 are there any mechanical differences between the corrupt party and the uncorrupt party?
    FMX: fm Kevinpowers - Citizen (WIN)
    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    I will go ahead and fuck this cat
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Heavy Handed View Post
    yeah I'm not gonna sit around here analyzing the fucking particle fluctuations in the quantum foam or whatever the fuck trying to find shit on D1

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    Re: S-FM America 2020

    Do the republican and democrat party members know their party is corrupt?
    Last edited by FrostByte; November 5th, 2020 at 06:57 PM.
    FMX: fm Kevinpowers - Citizen (WIN)
    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    I will go ahead and fuck this cat
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Heavy Handed View Post
    yeah I'm not gonna sit around here analyzing the fucking particle fluctuations in the quantum foam or whatever the fuck trying to find shit on D1

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    Re: S-FM America 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by FrostByte View Post
    @Stealthbomber16 are there any mechanical differences between the corrupt party and the uncorrupt party?
    Corrupt party gets access to the corrupt part of their rolecard.

    Quote Originally Posted by FrostByte View Post
    Do the republican and democrat party members know their party is corrupt?
    Yes
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Unfunny View Post
    How dare you send me another box of cereal
    Quote Originally Posted by ChannelMiner View Post
    Anyways I shot Brad due to my morbid fear of zombies.

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    Re: S-FM America 2020

    Can the presidential candidates be audited?
    Is an audit permanent?
    Does the game start d1 or n1?
    If a corrupt president is charged with guilty, do they lose both votes or just one?
    The setup requires an Order of Operations.
    Does roleblock stop journalist articles from being published?
    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    deathworld's and RLVG's suicides made me lul. I take a lot of pleasure in knowing that I gave you an night action, and that you used it to kill yourself.
    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    At least Mesk has lewdy lefty and raunchy righty. You're not even Canadian.
    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Shocked Kirby Face View Post
    Deathworlds is simply better than us at this game. Don't kill them for that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    fucketh me in the ass

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    Re: S-FM America 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by deathworlds View Post
    Can the presidential candidates be audited?
    No. Audits will fail if they target a presidential candidate.

    Quote Originally Posted by deathworlds View Post
    Is an audit permanent?
    Yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by deathworlds View Post
    Does the game start d1 or n1?
    No action night 0 to let the presidential teams talk -> day 1. I will clarify this.

    Quote Originally Posted by deathworlds View Post
    If a corrupt president is charged with guilty, do they lose both votes or just one?
    I'll get back to you on this one but as of right now I'm thinking only the one from a design standpoint, but it may be a balance issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by deathworlds View Post
    The setup requires an Order of Operations.
    Will do.

    Quote Originally Posted by deathworlds View Post
    Does roleblock stop journalist articles from being published?
    I'll get back to you on this one once I do the OoO but I think yes right now.
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Unfunny View Post
    How dare you send me another box of cereal
    Quote Originally Posted by ChannelMiner View Post
    Anyways I shot Brad due to my morbid fear of zombies.

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    Re: S-FM America 2020

    @Stealthbomber16 , since deathworlds has retired, do you want me to take over the reviewing process, or to mark this as Abandoned?
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Re: S-FM America 2020

    Iíll get around to this at some point, itís just so far from the top of my priority list that itís on, like, the fourth or fifth page.
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Unfunny View Post
    How dare you send me another box of cereal
    Quote Originally Posted by ChannelMiner View Post
    Anyways I shot Brad due to my morbid fear of zombies.

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    Re: S-FM America 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    I’ll get around to this at some point, it’s just so far from the top of my priority list that it’s on, like, the fourth or fifth page.
    I can mark it as Abandoned for now, and you are always free to revive it when you're ready.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Re: S-FM America 2020 (15P)

    Can the Debate Moderator only reveal once (and thus only make one chat)? It would be good to specify in the rolecard.

    I assume "what one voted for" means "innocent or guilty" for the purpose of investigative roles?

    My eternal question for setups of that kind: what incentive do scum have to act scummy? Especially considering how both the corrupt and non-corrupt parties should absolutely want to get their respective candidate elected in the exact same fashion (non-corrupts knowing for sure that the other party is corrupt and having to get their own party elected). So, to sum it up, how this is a game of Mafia and not something that belongs in the Other Games section (and for which I would definetly sign for because ITS SO COOL)?
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Re: S-FM America 2020 (15P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Can the Debate Moderator only reveal once (and thus only make one chat)? It would be good to specify in the rolecard.

    I assume "what one voted for" means "innocent or guilty" for the purpose of investigative roles?

    My eternal question for setups of that kind: what incentive do scum have to act scummy? Especially considering how both the corrupt and non-corrupt parties should absolutely want to get their respective candidate elected in the exact same fashion (non-corrupts knowing for sure that the other party is corrupt and having to get their own party elected). So, to sum it up, how this is a game of Mafia and not something that belongs in the Other Games section (and for which I would definetly sign for because ITS SO COOL)?
    The thought is that since the corrupt (scum) faction has additional scum abilities, they would be using those abilities to try and gain an advantage. In theory this game is a 3v3+8+1, but town doesn't know which 3 is the scum.

    I can see a world where those corrupt abilities are currently very weak though, and I'm open to buffing them to incentivize scumplay.
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Unfunny View Post
    How dare you send me another box of cereal
    Quote Originally Posted by ChannelMiner View Post
    Anyways I shot Brad due to my morbid fear of zombies.

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    Re: S-FM America 2020 (15P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    The thought is that since the corrupt (scum) faction has additional scum abilities, they would be using those abilities to try and gain an advantage. In theory this game is a 3v3+8+1, but town doesn't know which 3 is the scum.

    I can see a world where those corrupt abilities are currently very weak though, and I'm open to buffing them to incentivize scumplay.
    I can't think of an ability that incentivizes scumplay during the day, which is the main point (if corrupts only rely on their special night actions and otherwise just play like non-corrupts, this still isn't Mafia). If you have ideas, though, it would be good to see them.
    Last edited by Marshmallow Marshall; February 6th, 2022 at 06:11 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Re: S-FM America 2020 (15P)

    Quote Originally Posted by theoneceko View Post
    does this setup have night-kills
    It's America, not North Korea :P
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Re: S-FM America 2020 (15P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    I can't think of an ability that incentivizes scumplay during the day, which is the main point (if corrupts only rely on their special night actions and otherwise just play like non-corrupts, this still isn't Mafia). If you have ideas, though, it would be good to see them.
    What would you think about giving the scum faction a target that only they know, and if they successfully get their target convicted they gain an extra 2 votes for their candidate?

    Edit: the problem then becomes what is the incentive for town to vote?
    Last edited by Stealthbomber16; February 8th, 2022 at 12:14 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Unfunny View Post
    How dare you send me another box of cereal
    Quote Originally Posted by ChannelMiner View Post
    Anyways I shot Brad due to my morbid fear of zombies.

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    Re: S-FM America 2020 (15P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    What would you think about giving the scum faction a target that only they know, and if they successfully get their target convicted they gain an extra 2 votes for their candidate?

    Edit: the problem then becomes what is the incentive for town to vote?
    Well, you brought up the issue yourself xD. A relatively easy fix for this would be to have scum need to innocent someone or to convict someone, and noone but them knows which one they need to do. That way, town has no incentive to abstain.

    Would that be enough to make scum play scum, though?
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Re: S-FM America 2020 (15P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Well, you brought up the issue yourself xD. A relatively easy fix for this would be to have scum need to innocent someone or to convict someone, and noone but them knows which one they need to do. That way, town has no incentive to abstain.

    Would that be enough to make scum play scum, though?
    Yeah thatís a good fix then the challenge for town becomes how do you know what the scum are trying to do?

    In a normal game town has to stop town from being lynched and lynch scum instead. Simple. In this game, town has to deduce whether or not the person on trial is scum, determine whether or not scum wants them to have their vote removed or not, and then determine whether or not to remove their vote.
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Unfunny View Post
    How dare you send me another box of cereal
    Quote Originally Posted by ChannelMiner View Post
    Anyways I shot Brad due to my morbid fear of zombies.

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    Re: S-FM America 2020 (15P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    Yeah that’s a good fix then the challenge for town becomes how do you know what the scum are trying to do?

    In a normal game town has to stop town from being lynched and lynch scum instead. Simple. In this game, town has to deduce whether or not the person on trial is scum, determine whether or not scum wants them to have their vote removed or not, and then determine whether or not to remove their vote.
    The first thing that comes to mind is "that's hard". We can see how it goes, though - at least the incentive is there. Does that sound good?
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Re: S-FM America 2020 (15P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    The first thing that comes to mind is "that's hard". We can see how it goes, though - at least the incentive is there. Does that sound good?
    I feel like that just gets gamed by the town universally just agreeing "yeah, lets just let all these people keep their votes" and then anyone who tries to suggest otherwise is labeled as scum. That shuts down counterplay.
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Unfunny View Post
    How dare you send me another box of cereal
    Quote Originally Posted by ChannelMiner View Post
    Anyways I shot Brad due to my morbid fear of zombies.

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    Re: S-FM America 2020 (15P)

    How is town supposed to determine which of the parties is corrupt?

    All of the corrupt powers are just optional buffs on top of their existing roles, meaning the corrupt party could choose to just not use any of their powers and therefore be effectively indistinguishable from the non-corrupt party.

    I am of the mindset that (barring rare edge cases such as analysis paralysis) giving roles/factions more options is a strict buff. And therefore when the corrupt are already able to be effectively indistinguishable from the non-corrupt but they also have buffed abilities on top of that, it just means that town has no way to actually scumhunt.

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    Re: S-FM America 2020 (15P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Lag View Post
    How is town supposed to determine which of the parties is corrupt?

    All of the corrupt powers are just optional buffs on top of their existing roles, meaning the corrupt party could choose to just not use any of their powers and therefore be effectively indistinguishable from the non-corrupt party.

    I am of the mindset that (barring rare edge cases such as analysis paralysis) giving roles/factions more options is a strict buff. And therefore when the corrupt are already able to be effectively indistinguishable from the non-corrupt but they also have buffed abilities on top of that, it just means that town has no way to actually scumhunt.
    I agree with this. So how do I fix these issues?
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Unfunny View Post
    How dare you send me another box of cereal
    Quote Originally Posted by ChannelMiner View Post
    Anyways I shot Brad due to my morbid fear of zombies.

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    Re: S-FM America 2020 (15P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    I agree with this. So how do I fix these issues?
    Force scum to guilty/innocent people in order to win, not just in order to get bonuses.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Re: S-FM America 2020 (15P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    I agree with this. So how do I fix these issues?
    That is not an easy thing to solve.

    One preliminary idea is to change the core gameplay from town trying to figure out which party is corrupt to making it so one party is corrupt and is trying to hunt the non-corrupt party.

    Give the corrupt party a night-kill (can theme it as like, a "hit piece" or something) that removes a player.
    Corrupt party wins by either getting their candidate elected or eliminating the opposing party.
    Town's job then goes from trying to find which party is corrupt to trying to help the non-corrupt party blend in.

    This idea is very half baked but there might be something there. Basically taking the aspect of faking as a PR to take the fall for the real PRs and blowing that up into making that the core mechanic of the setup.

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    Re: S-FM America 2020 (15P)

    I don't want the game to have a nightkill. That's one thing I'm certain would not fit the theme I'm going for.

    I'm going to take this back to the workshop and reimagine it.
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Unfunny View Post
    How dare you send me another box of cereal
    Quote Originally Posted by ChannelMiner View Post
    Anyways I shot Brad due to my morbid fear of zombies.

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    Re: S-FM America 2020 (15P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Lag View Post
    I don't think that solves the problem since town still has no way to actually gain information on what scum's mission is
    I am trying to avoid turning the setup into a regular one (to respect its spirit), so while it may not look like the optimal solution, I can't think of one that doesn't involve adding kills into the game.

    As for information for town, it does give some: scum will HAVE to try to dishonestly push or whiteknight people, which town can see and analyze. Perhaps it is not enough, perhaps it is not so fun either, but at least it is somewhat functional. Now uh, since we want setups to be fun, it might still not be optimal lol.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Re: S-FM America 2020 (15P)

    Fix the State Prosecutor rolecard's quote tags

    What happens if the State Prosecutor gets his target convicted? Does he ascend to Heaven and leave the game? Or is he a kingmaker? (I advise against the latter)


    Did you have any ideas to fix the issues brought up during the last review while respecting your setup's spirit (see posts above)? Right now, scum do not have any incentive to act scummy.
    New idea that has not been brought up yet: What if the corrupt party needed to get more votes than the other one in order to win? It would make scum idleness suboptimal.
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    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
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  41. ISO #41

    Re: S-FM America 2020 (15P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Fix the State Prosecutor rolecard's quote tags

    What happens if the State Prosecutor gets his target convicted? Does he ascend to Heaven and leave the game? Or is he a kingmaker? (I advise against the latter)


    Did you have any ideas to fix the issues brought up during the last review while respecting your setup's spirit (see posts above)? Right now, scum do not have any incentive to act scummy.
    New idea that has not been brought up yet: What if the corrupt party needed to get more votes than the other one in order to win? It would make scum idleness suboptimal.
    Voting system has been reworked. There is now a traditional "lynch" that removes a player's ability to vote instead of outright killing them. If a presidential candidate is convicted, the game ends and that party loses. Scum now has to protect their president from the conviction, the other party has to protect their president from the conviction.

    I have (as of this post) made an adjustment to the setup to give the scum president one extra election vote per day that the town did not convict. This will force the town to find the scum and will force the scum to have to interact with the trains during the day. Because the vote is majority only, players will have to come to a consensus or risk scum getting too many extra votes.
    Last edited by Stealthbomber16; September 20th, 2023 at 06:04 PM. Reason: phrasing
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    Anyways I shot Brad due to my morbid fear of zombies.

 

 

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