Had to convert the color here because having Mafia-Red can only be read for so much.
Outside of that, before I called him out on it, he hadn't taken any strong stances (only that Ceko forced him to take some clearer (but not stronger) ones by questioning his post where he just listed posts he found interesting without explaining at all...
I've explained this before. That early reads list was INTENDED to reaction-test Ceko. And it did, when the top two reads were Ceko's scum or suspicion reads:
This interaction was done in less than 2 minutes after Ceko's response. If believe me, you'll quite clearly see I was prepared to pressure him with vague statements about being oppertunisitic in order to see if he would react in a towny or scummy way.
Unless you're going to call all of that coincidence?
This is all evidence of me putting effort into getting more solid reads; Effort that is done because I only had a few solid reads at the time and needed more.
To attack it as evidence of not having any is the WRONG way to look at it because that's exactly the reason why these posts and interactions exist!
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
I town-read you for your early entrance, and in particular #15. But then you recently said this:
Which makes me wonder if your other beliefs or opinions are held as strongly when scum as town?
I mean, I get you're complaining about the usage of M E T A in #15, and I think that may have been there as among your first posts because you believed in it and therefore instead of going some scummy deliberation you just snap-reacted and said that.
But what if you just did that because thats just how you are? I mean, the above quote seems fairly convincing you believe in strategies involving toxicity regardless of alignment
And there may be other tinfoil aspects that I would have to consider.
But its all just tinfoil for right now.
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
Just because I'm being toxic doesn't mean I'm emotionally charged. It's understandable why you would assume that, but calling someone a faggot and telling them to fuck off doesn't require any specific emotion.
I'm being genuine and pretty much typing what I think in the moment, for the most part.
I am also being calculated and quick.
I'm scumhunting.
"Calculated & Quick" sounds like a food delivery service. Frostbit is not bright.
i still don’t get kenny or mm’s tunnel on martin. these players both sus martin, which prevents me from putting martin as a strong townread.
-vote frostbyte
@FrostByte fuck u asshole suck my dick
Do Not open this spoiler under any condition!!!!!!!
Spoiler : :
I think this game is mafia vers town I will bet money the neutrals are lurking just letting town and mafia go at it brining 0 attention to them selfs.
Do Not open this spoiler under any condition!!!!!!!
Spoiler : :
@Whysper do u think dark mag is town? you've played w him before right.
u know what @FrostByte @Mike u forced my hand. my vote on frost was half legitimate and half a reaction-test. my plan for today's eod was to get info from a frost wagon, then post my bake wall and push for my actual top scumread--BAKE. like @MartinGG99 said, frost should be looked into AFTER today.
u want my thoughts on mm too? i suspect he is pocketing me and ik he acted scummy on day 1 and the start of day 2. however, i waited for mm to tunnel a few people (instead of weakly prodding players like bad scum)--which he did. i don't agree w his tunnel on martin (i said this before), but he's acted townier than bake today. therefore, i probably won't vote him today.
is this the town!ceko u both were looking for? my plan for today was cut short. i'll post the wall @FrostByte was waiting for. apparently, the best thing to do in this situation is solely revolve discussion around mm and bake (i'm being sarcastic here. i already know bake or mm will be lynched today unless something crazy happens. gimme a break). i think the game is 60% solved from day 1, but every1 is treating it like it's 100% solved. @Mike u know i pulled the same shit off on you yesterday, so why would you defend frost so hard right off the bat?? u should've known what i was up to.
inb4 frost says "ceko was just buying time to write the bake wall," which would indicate to me that yet again, he hasn't understood anything i've been trying to argue. jesus christ. discussion is always good as long as u don't lose sight of ur original goal.
i didn't say any of this initially bc now scum knows my fucking plan. congratulations. u guys made me do it.
first i'll post this. it's the beginning of a tunnel on bake, who i think is neutral:
on day 1, bake and mike insisted that mario check me last night.
i think bake is neutral for this because he drew attention to me after mike called me out. if he was scum, he wouldn't have said this in the thread.
i think mike reacted the right (townie) way when i prodded him bc my vote was admittedly confusing as hell.
i hoped mario would claim a red check on me, but he hasn't and we're already well into day 2. this scum trap was unsuccessful. also, mike is in my towncore unless i iso him and find it scummy or if he starts doing some funky shit.
now here's my wall about bake's eod. it's not complicated because it doesn't need to be. bake's scummy eod speaks for itself. frost might accuse me of making this wall up on the spot. we'll see.
Spoiler : baker wall :
looking back at this wall, i'll ignore my anger at mike and not scumread him for defending frost so hard.
creating discussion outside of mm/bake will get me universally scumread. therefore, i will
-vote bakermir
turbo him for all i care. it's not like scum are hiding among lurkers. no, let's just focus on the highest posters for the entire game. i played a game with town!frinckles, and after i lynched scum on day 1, he said to vote among the lurkers (in more exact terms, to "raise the bar on your townreads"). if town mislynches today and tomorrow, i wonder if they'll follow this advice. or accuse me of being scum for suggesting it.
Actually, reading ceko's post, one of the quotes he showed looked weird to me when I looked at it again:
Isn't it more common to not question people who are widely town-read until a point where the question is: "Why hasn't this person been night-killed yet?"
This looks weirrd, like an early-ish discredit attempt.
A.K.A "That One Idiot"