S-FM 313: Mushroom Kingdom Madness II

[Gyrlander]

Town is in a good spot. The best play for town is to get a lynch so we can either deduce loyalty based on flip or at the very least narrow down who might be scum. Do you agree or disagree with this?

I don't want to lynch baker even if we can "deduce loyalties". I don't lynch people that I don't want dead. Easy as that.

[FrostByte]

I don't want to lynch baker even if we can "deduce loyalties". I don't lynch people that I don't want dead. Easy as that.

So you're not gonna do what's best for town? Should I be scumreading you for that?

[Gyrlander]

So you're not gonna do what's best for town? Should I be scumreading you for that?

Excuse me, Sir FrostByte representing the whole Town and having infinite knowledge on what's best for everyone else. Are you a politician?

[theoneceko]

Well, I'm back. I'm not gonna read all these pages since there's jsut 15 minutes left, but I don't want to lynch baker. Either skip or Bahkieh, and Bakhiek being a pure null lurker.

trying to get free townpoints now that bake is at l-2 with 10 minutes left in the day???

[FrostByte]

trying to get free townpoints now that bake is at l-2 with 10 minutes left in the day???

@theoneceko

oh my god pls think beyond what my vote says at face-value

i'm pretty sure u didn't mean to be anti-town, but u just were here.

Is all you said in response to Mike's logic about me bussing the fuck out of Godfather. Now you're tunneling me. Why?

I swear to God I'm gonna spam this post if you don't answer.

[Mike]

@theoneceko







Is all you said in response to Mike's logic about me bussing the fuck out of Godfather. Now you're tunneling me. Why?

I swear to God I'm gonna spam this post if you don't answer.

If you are scum reading me how is my logic good when I pushed him from your PoV?????
You are makeing no logic.

Town I think I fucked up on baker.

[FrostByte]

If you are scum reading me how is my logic good when I pushed him from your PoV?????
You are makeing no logic.

Town I think I fucked up on baker.

You can agree with someone's logic and still think they're scum, doofus. Besides, you're definitely not the only reason I'm comfortable voting Bake.

Is this an insurance post in case you fucked up and Bake flips town?

Not so confident all of a sudden?

Did your arrogance just melt away?

lmfao

[theoneceko]

If you are scum reading me how is my logic good when I pushed him from your PoV?????
You are makeing no logic.

Town I think I fucked up on baker.

at this point we can't switch to someone else. it'll just screw town's direction tomorrow and bake will forever remain a question mark in our heads.

[Gyrlander]

trying to get free townpoints now that bake is at l-2 with 10 minutes left in the day???

Why would that give me townpoints? If you manage to lynch him and flips scum you'll likely condemn me, if he doesn't get lynched then it's my fault town doesn't get any info and if he gets lynched and flips Town then I smile while I say you're dumb

10/10

[theoneceko]

Why would that give me townpoints? If you manage to lynch him and flips scum you'll likely condemn me, if he doesn't get lynched then it's my fault town doesn't get any info and if he gets lynched and flips Town then I smile while I say you're dumb

10/10

i'm literally only concerned with the way u popped in at eod. my point has been made.

[FrostByte]

i'm literally only concerned with the way u popped in at eod. my point has been made.

@theoneceko

oh my god pls think beyond what my vote says at face-value

i'm pretty sure u didn't mean to be anti-town, but u just were here.

Is all you said in response to Mike's logic about me bussing the fuck out of Godfather. Now you're tunneling me. Why?

I swear to God I'm gonna spam this post if you don't answer.

[Gyrlander]

i'm literally only concerned with the way u popped in at eod. my point has been made.

I can give you a long list of excuses on why I haven't been here until now and they are 100% true so you DON'T have a point FMPOV.

[Renegade]

Welp, looks like no lunch today.

[Renegade]

I agree that no lunch is stupid for today.

[FrostByte]

@Mike I wouldn't be as upfront or stubborn about it if you hadn't said multiple times that Bake is 100% scum. You're so confident about it but your actions are going to have consequence either way.

[Mike]

No frost has me all confussed

[bakermir]

No frost has me all confussed

no you are just shitting your pants LOL

[FrostByte]

No frost has me all confussed

I think you're scummy but I'm not 100% about it

I think Bake is scummy, too. Plus you have good reason for pushing Bake. I can agree with your logic for the push while simultaneously think you might be scum.

I'm very actively keeping you in both the scum and potentially not scum category because I'm avoiding being arrogant.

[FrostByte]

There are currently 10 users browsing this thread. (10 members and 0 guests)

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• bakermir,
• BananaCucho,
• Gyrlander,
• MartinGG99,
• Mike,
• Renegade,
• theoneceko

[Mike]

vote now or we skip

[BananaCucho]

Day 2 has ended. No lunch is served.

Night 2 has begun and will end in 24 hours at 4 PM on Thursday, 10/29/2020. Night actions are due 1 hour before end of night.

[BananaCucho]

Day 2 vote count:


Firebringer (1 [L-6]):
Bruno
bakermir (5 [L-2]):
FrostByte, Bahkieh, Mike, theoneceko, Renegade
Mike (1 [L-6]):
bakermir
Bahkieh (2 [L-5]):
Firebringer, Marshmallow Marshall






Day 3

Link to setup




Dungeon Master died last night. He was Geno




He left a last will:

Spoiler : dm last will :

Real Secret Role:
Dry Bones
You receive the "Toad" role card initially
If any player changes alignment or a Koopa dies, y

Role List:

Bowser
Hidden Koopa Role
Hidden Koopa Role
Mario
Hidden Mushroom Kingdom Role
Hidden Mushroom Kingdom Role
Hidden Mushroom Kingdom Role
Hidden Mushroom Kingdom Role
Hidden Mushroom Kingdom Role
Hidden Mushroom Kingdom Role
Hidden Mushroom Kingdom Role
Hidden Mushroom Kingdom Role
Hidden Neutral
Hidden Any
Hidden Any

Players:

1 - REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEnae
2 - firebanger
4 - steve the pirate
5 - Whysper
6 - Fred
7 - Martinelli
8 - mallow
9 - Frost "where's my nickname" Byte
10 - gry
11 - BRUNO???!!!
13 - yuki2
14 - Barker

Graveyard:

Scone - Bowser - MUSHROOM'd Day 1
Ken - Toad - Killed Night 1
dungeon master - Geno - Killed Night 2








With 12 alive it takes 7 votes to hammer.



Day 3 ends in 48 hours at 4 PM MDT on Saturday, 10/31/2020
Due to this being Halloween, I am considering delaying/changing day end, please PM your choice to me if you wish for it to change

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[Marshmallow Marshall]

(I've only read the opening D3 post)

Scum gave us a nice kill... DM wasn't even townread and I wondered if he was going under the radar. Guess not

What are we doing about Firebringer now? Considering that:

Geno only flips as such if a role has changed alignment. It doesn't seem very far-fetched that Firebringer became a Lovebird. And if there was a Wario, he'd have shot FB, which leads to either him dying as Mario or him not dying because he fakeclaimed (so the three situations are FB Mario dead (no), FB fakeclaim alive (possible) and no Wario in the game (possible)). As for Waluigi, causing more chaos than there already is is probably not necessary or desirable when you wish to survive.

I originally thought about voting him, but there are many scenarios and potentially killing what is still pretty much an alignment cop is a risky move.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Also, I have a BIG question. Why was it so easy to bring Firebringer up to a strong train, but so hard to make a Bahkieh train be anything more than a dream?

-vote Bahkieh

[MartinGG99]

(I've only read the opening D3 post)

Scum gave us a nice kill... DM wasn't even townread and I wondered if he was going under the radar. Guess not

What are we doing about Firebringer now? Considering that:

Geno only flips as such if a role has changed alignment. It doesn't seem very far-fetched that Firebringer became a Lovebird. And if there was a Wario, he'd have shot FB, which leads to either him dying as Mario or him not dying because he fakeclaimed (so the three situations are FB Mario dead (no), FB fakeclaim alive (possible) and no Wario in the game (possible)). As for Waluigi, causing more chaos than there already is is probably not necessary or desirable when you wish to survive.

I originally thought about voting him, but there are many scenarios and potentially killing what is still pretty much an alignment cop is a risky move.

You seem to have a misconception here. This is true if Wario shot on N2, but DM changed on N1 and before that FB didn't claim Mario.

Additionally: The OOO makes it clear that any of the triggers that would have caused a role-switch for any of the Toads would occur after the kills, unless it was a kill-turned-capture (but at that point a NK would be missing).

Meaning if DM were killed n1, even if there was an alignment switch, he would (in like 99% of all cases) just flip as "Toad" rather than "Geno".

[Whysper]

Graveyard:

Scone - Bowser - MUSHROOM'd Day 1
Ken - Toad - Killed Night 1
dungeon master - Geno - Killed Night 2

I don't see a lynch for D2, so does that mean we chose to skip it? Why??

[Mike]

I don't see a lynch for D2, so does that mean we chose to skip it? Why??

Day 2 vote count:


Firebringer (1 [L-6]):
Bruno
bakermir (5 [L-2]):
FrostByte, Bahkieh, Mike, theoneceko, Renegade
Mike (1 [L-6]):
bakermir
Bahkieh (2 [L-5]):
Firebringer, Marshmallow Marshall

This is why!! If there is not enough to lynch it is an auto skip.

[FrostByte]

I don't see a lynch for D2, so does that mean we chose to skip it? Why??

Bake and DM refused to vote. It's 100% on them.

[bakermir]

Bake and DM refused to vote. It's 100% on them.

refused to vote who

what

lol

[Bahkieh]

Bake and DM refused to vote. It's 100% on them.

Well, to be fair, I don't think you can vote yourself so you can't blame bake for not voting bake.

[bakermir]

Well, to be fair, I don't think you can vote yourself so you can't blame bake for not voting bake.

i think he is having anxiety problems


give him time

[FrostByte]

Well, to be fair, I don't think you can vote yourself so you can't blame bake for not voting bake.

they didn't even try. it was disgraceful.

[Toadette]

December 8th, 2015

Bowser's followers hacked a local news station during primetime and broadcasted a video denying allegations that their leader had kidnapped Princess Toadstool. Furthermore, they denounced the Mayor's office, accusing the Mayor of ordering Bowser's death. They claim to have proof of this, that will soon be released. Public opinion...


"How do they know? We were careful" said Mayor Toadette, as she rushed around gathering a few belongings into a suitcase

"It doesn't matter" said the mysterious stranger. "All that matters is that you get out of here as quickly as possible."

"Absolutely", responded the Mayor, "but I need to make a quick call first. I think it's time I called him.

January 14th, 2016

I've been in hiding for more than a month now. Toadsworth has staged a coup on city hall. With the support of Princess Daisy from the neighboring kingdom, he has declared himself interim mayor.

I dispatched Dungeon Master, who sometimes goes by "Geno", to assassinate key members of Bowser's now-dwindling yet persistent group. His reputation did not proceed him, for he was found hanging from city hall's roof with a big red 'X' painted on his face. Daily the death count of innocent citizens is rising. Mario hasn't been seen in weeks. And Princess Toadstool is still missing.

Things could not be worse than they are right now.

- Mayor Toadette

[FrostByte]

well shit

[Mike]

Town Sleep last night was God Awfull. At least we have a Marieo check tonight. FM who and what was your check?

[MartinGG99]

welp

if FB is 100% mario

then logically speaking from my perspective there is either a town player who got turned into Wario by a Waluigi

Or a wario who existed at the beginning that became Insane Wario on n1 (and someone now knows they're doused!!!)

Because with Bowser out of the way there's basically very little reason for Mario to lie about their checks since they don't covert into evil with Daisy.

toadstool is a very unlikely possiblity because both nights had 1 kill, meaning that the koopas didn't convert (unless some town is going to claim they jailed & executed Dark Magician).

I think its 100% the insane Wario possiblity rn because if FB is mario then he would've been almost certainly shot by the Town-turned Wario possibility.

[MartinGG99]

(and someone now knows they're doused!!!)

Actually there's a *slight* possibility this didn't happen if Insane Wario doused DM while koopas targeted DM.

[theoneceko]

@Firebringer pls tell me u checked bake last night

[MartinGG99]

Unless there's love-birds but I don't see a second KPN here

[MartinGG99]

also post-game I have to ask DM why tf he voted Bakermir

cuz I would really like to understand why from his perspective

[MartinGG99]

Also tentative vote for the time being.

-vote bakermir

I honestly thought there were things that were more suspicious going (Ex: Dark Magician), but I guess not.

This also isn't an intent to turbo btw, and if Bakermir flips green then I'm going to give Mike + Ceko a very long look at.

[MartinGG99]

This also isn't an intent to turbo btw, and if Bakermir flips green then I'm going to give Mike + Ceko a very long look at.

maaaaayyyybbbeeeee MM as well, since both him and Ceko have claimed having similar thoughts.

[theoneceko]

who scumpainted dm at eod?? martin did if i remember correctly. i bet his plan was to scumpaint dm so prots wouldn’t guard dm, then attack him that night.

[MartinGG99]

who scumpainted dm at eod?? martin did if i remember correctly. i bet his plan was to scumpaint dm so prots wouldn’t guard dm, then attack him that night.

*Completely ignores that FB claimed a green check on me on D2*

[Mike]

who scumpainted dm at eod?? martin did if i remember correctly. i bet his plan was to scumpaint dm so prots wouldn’t guard dm, then attack him that night.

Are you even reading the Game????

For your PoV to be correct team has to be FM and Martan.

Martan HAs to be only
1 Town
2 Evil Dasy

That is litterly the only 2 posiable roles Martan can be he can not be in a scum team unless it is FM and that would meant the Real Mario Has not claimed. (I highly Doubt this )

Evil Princess Daisy (Converted Princess Daisy)
You can visit a player, killing all players that visit that person at night. A player that doesn't take an action is considered to visit themselves
You can visit yourself with this action once
You are immune to night kills

[Marshmallow Marshall]

who scumpainted dm at eod?? martin did if i remember correctly. i bet his plan was to scumpaint dm so prots wouldn’t guard dm, then attack him that night.

That is really far-fetched. DM needed no scumpaint: he did very little to be townie. It may sound weird, but the only thing that stopped me from pushing him was that he clearly refused to hammer Zone on D1, which I would not exactly expect from a scum.

[theoneceko]

who were the ppl that led the hellish WIFOM setup discussion hmmmm

bake martin and bruno. bruno just asked a few questions then left, but bake and martin made it way more complicated. right before eod too. smh.

[FrostByte]

who were the ppl that led the hellish WIFOM setup discussion hmmmm

bake martin and bruno. bruno just asked a few questions then left, but bake and martin made it way more complicated. right before eod too. smh.

Bake was getting bussed, what the fuck do you expect?

[MartinGG99]

who were the ppl that led the hellish WIFOM setup discussion hmmmm

bake martin and bruno. bruno just asked a few questions then left, but bake and martin made it way more complicated. right before eod too. smh.

Well I suppose for you its hellish WIFOM

But for me knowing I'm Toad, its not really all that bad tbh; I was just trying to figure out what the neutral evil was, if hypothetically someone's alignment did change. Which apparently did on N1, according to DM's body.

[MartinGG99]

Well I suppose for you its hellish WIFOM

But for me knowing I'm Toad, its not really all that bad tbh; I was just trying to figure out what the neutral evil was, if hypothetically someone's alignment did change. Which apparently did on N1, according to DM's body.

Trying to sort that stuff out is important if someone's going to falsely accuse me of being Daisy or otherwise and etc etc etc.

As soon as FB claimed a check on me, some people immediately sought to discredit it.