trump 2020

[Bruno]

joe biden is a pedophile and his son hunter smokes crack

what more can i say

[Bruno]

confirmed FACT: men who vote for joe biden are very low in testosterone count and should undergo hormone therapy

[oops_ur_dead]

the virgin Ganelon: so shit at arguing that he convinces people to vote for Biden, thinks other people are being mean to him by arguing against him, can't even vote in the US
the chad Bruno: convinces people to vote for Trump ironically, "kill yourself before i kill you myself", legally votes 10 times with each of his personalities

[Ash]

joe biden is a pedophile and his son hunter smokes crack

what more can i say

You almost convinced me but you're saying that Hunter Biden isn't a coward cuz he smokes crack...

[Bruno]

You almost convinced me but you're saying that Hunter Biden isn't a coward cuz he smokes crack...

correct. he isn't a coward, but his brain is fried cuz of the crack n meth

[Voss]

biden will pay for my testosterone supplements.

[BananaCucho]

Oh hey Bruno hows it going man

[FrostByte]

Oh hey Bruno hows it going man

This is your fault btw. I told him you summoned him in that sfm signup thread and now here he is.

W H A T H A V E Y O U D O N E

[BananaCucho]

This is your fault btw. I told him you summoned him in that sfm signup thread and now here he is.

W H A T H A V E Y O U D O N E

[FrostByte]

ngl my brain thought this was porn for about a half second after I clicked on the page

[BananaCucho]

ngl my brain thought this was porn for about a half second after I clicked on the page

https://youtu.be/OYBySPXg8rs

[Bruno]

Oh hey Bruno hows it going man

how u doin

[BananaCucho]

how u doin

Things are actually going really well for me right now, thanks

[Bruno]

Things are actually going really well for me right now, thanks

u wanna fuck?

[BananaCucho]

u wanna fuck?

Sure lol

[Bruno]

Sure lol

mm yea

[Marshmallow Marshall]

First argument of Trumpists: Trump's not Biden
First argument of Democrats: Biden's not Trump

This thread is even more disturbing than current American politics tho

[BananaCucho]

First argument of Trumpists: Trump's not Biden
First argument of Democrats: Biden's not Trump

This thread is even more disturbing than current American politics tho

Is it tho?

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Is it tho?

you're a banana talking about fucking someone called bruno

that goes into "disturbing"

[BananaCucho]

you're a banana talking about fucking someone called bruno

that goes into "disturbing"

Does it tho?

[Bruno]

marshmallow gave me an infraction cuz hes jealous we're fucking banana

dont worry tho, like christ said : deny me before ur friends, and ill deny u before my father.

we can keep bangin

[BananaCucho]

marshmallow gave me an infraction cuz hes jealous we're fucking banana

dont worry tho, like christ said : deny me before ur friends, and ill deny u before my father.

we can keep bangin

*fucks in front of mallow*

Infract this, bitch

[Marshmallow Marshall]

marshmallow gave me an infraction cuz hes jealous we're fucking banana

dont worry tho, like christ said : deny me before ur friends, and ill deny u before my father.

we can keep bangin

There are six things that the Lord hates, seven that are an abomination to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers.

:P

and yes you may keep doing whatever you're doing, may the LORD have mercy upon thy souls

severe personal attacks are still strictly prohibited tho bruno, don't follow the devil's footsteps

[BananaCucho]

Booo no sermons

[Marshmallow Marshall]

The LORD forgives you, Banana. HE forgives everyone.

[BananaCucho]

Jehovah can fuck right off. After he sucks me off of course

[FrostByte]

joe biden is a pedophile and his son hunter smokes crack

what more can i say

Trumpo is pedo too and I'll bet that whole obscenely rich family has substance issues, too.

rich people are not your friend, broseph

[Bruno]

Trumpo is pedo too and I'll bet that whole obscenely rich family has substance issues, too.

rich people are not your friend, broseph

no shit

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Trumpo is pedo too and I'll bet that whole obscenely rich family has substance issues, too.

rich people are not your friend, broseph

Yes, the rich are all evil, comrade!

A lot are bad, but I think this generalization is harmful to society.

[FrostByte]

Yes, the rich are all evil, comrade!

A lot are bad, but I think this generalization is harmful to society.

Never said they were all evil, just that they're not our friends.

The rich are harmful to society.

I'm not talking millionaire rich. Billionaires are harmful to everyone except billionaires.

[Oberon]

Never said they were all evil, just that they're not our friends.

The rich are harmful to society.

I'm not talking millionaire rich. Billionaires are harmful to everyone except billionaires.

I’m not sure I understand this position. Do you think that billionaires like Steve Jobs or Bill Gates take more than they produce in terms of value? I mean, they started the microcomputer revolution, which directly led to the extreme advancements in computer technology that enables us to use the Internet today. I’d count that as a net positive.

[Voss]

steve jobs isn't harmful to society. he's fucking dead. and bill gates is basically a saint. find other strawman "good billionaire" examples please.

[Oberon]

Uh, what? Are you suggesting he was harmful while he was still alive?
Its also not a strawman. The burden of proof is on the prosecution. When someone gives a generalizing claim, a counter-example is an easy refutation of that claim. It doesnt refute the possibility that *generally* rich people are bad for society, however, looking at it objectively, it has not actually been proven (by Frost) that the rich are harmful to society, merely asserted.

And in fact, in light of all of the shit that we have today, I’d say the assertion is actually wrong. Poor people didn’t build up today’s society.

[rumox]

With covid I'd say society is very well much held up by poor people.

[Oberon]

How did you arrive at that conclusion?
I see poor people being the most affected by covid bc it means they cannot work / have less money due to covid and economic recessions (crises of any kind, really) hit the poor the hardest but that doesn’t mean they’re ‘holding up’ today’s society by any means. The poor are also not the ones who made MRi, CT scans, cars, lamps, computers, modern medicine and so on.

[SuperJack]

How did you arrive at that conclusion?
I see poor people being the most affected by covid bc it means they cannot work / have less money due to covid and economic recessions (crises of any kind, really) hit the poor the hardest but that doesn’t mean they’re ‘holding up’ today’s society by any means. The poor are also not the ones who made MRi, CT scans, cars, lamps, computers, modern medicine and so on.

Oh no. I'm sure it's the rich people sat in the factory's building the lamps and the scanners. Definitely got Elon Musk soldering your x570 motherboard.

I'm sure everything will be contained to function if the 1% where the only ones that remained in work.

People like 50 cent, who was unhappy about having to pay more tax. Do they forget who buys their shit?

[oops_ur_dead]

How did you arrive at that conclusion?
I see poor people being the most affected by covid bc it means they cannot work / have less money due to covid and economic recessions (crises of any kind, really) hit the poor the hardest but that doesn’t mean they’re ‘holding up’ today’s society by any means. The poor are also not the ones who made MRi, CT scans, cars, lamps, computers, modern medicine and so on.

You might have a point overall but all the examples you listed are the dumbest fucking examples you could have used, because every single one was independently invented by random scientists, researchers, and engineers, all of whom probably weren't that wealthy (except potentially Charles Babbage who invented the computer).

[yzb25]

Uh, what? Are you suggesting he was harmful while he was still alive?
Its also not a strawman. The burden of proof is on the prosecution. When someone gives a generalizing claim, a counter-example is an easy refutation of that claim. It doesnt refute the possibility that *generally* rich people are bad for society, however, looking at it objectively, it has not actually been proven (by Frost) that the rich are harmful to society, merely asserted.

And in fact, in light of all of the shit that we have today, I’d say the assertion is actually wrong. Poor people didn’t build up today’s society.

Billionnaires aren't bad as individuals. Many seem like pleasant people. Most are pleasant people. But the existence of people with so much concentrated wealth and power has a destabilizing effect on society. Sometimes, when someone becomes a billionaire, they act like Bill Gates. That's great. Sometimes, however, they choose to act like Murdoch - trying to buy up all of UK media in some pathological quest to control everything British people see. Or they act like Bloomberg, who came very close to buying the position of democratic candidate in the US primary this year and shamelessly uses his wealth to sway congress towards his preferred policies.

Billionnaires and the major shareholders certainly play a key role in most social advancements. But that's also inevitable because of how ubiquitous their power is. You don't really hear people heaping praise on the aristocracy for kickstarting the age of enlightenment and exploration through their patronage, because there was literally noone else who could have done such a thing at the time.

People who bring up Bill Gates every time you try to talk about that problematic wealth concentration is like people who bring up, I don't bloody know, Cyrus the Great every time you try to criticize autocracy or empires. It's kind of missing the point lol.

[rumox]

Why do you think governments are literally throwing cash at poor people across the world? It's very naïve to think it's solely because they are "on tough times". These are the people who will actually get out and spend that money and put it into circulation. Now that they are being decimated by covid the economy naturally gets rolled with them. The last financial crisis our government avoided the recession unlike many other countries by doing cash injections into poor peoples pockets. Literally avoided a recession by doing it. What does that tell you? When the poor are confident to spend everything is good, if they aren't or can't then shits fucked. Seeing the financial status of countries where low wage jobs have been smashed should be a raging clue that these jobs and the people are actually very damn essential to maintaining society as it is. I work as the stock controller for a company and the amount of products that are on back order (basically a vague "it comes when it comes") is unprecedented. Warehouses cannot keep up due to workers being sick and covid restrictions hampering productivity.

[Oberon]

Oh no. I'm sure it's the rich people sat in the factory's building the lamps and the scanners. Definitely got Elon Musk soldering your x570 motherboard.

I'm sure everything will be contained to function if the 1% where the only ones that remained in work.

People like 50 cent, who was unhappy about having to pay more tax. Do they forget who buys their shit?

You're forgetting that nothing would function either if the rich disappeared tomorrow with nobody to replace them.
Elon Musk may not have soldered it but he organized the production process, he hired the people to design them, hired managers to 'manage' (kek) everything... I mean, its not like the rich just stand around all day doing nothing ^^ Musk works 100 hour weeks.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

It's amazing how every single thread that is even slightly political ends up in an argument between left vs right points of view.
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[Oberon]

I don't really think I'm supporting a necessarily right point of view as much as I am attacking a really far-left point of view lol.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

I don't really think I'm supporting a necessarily right point of view as much as I am attacking a really far-left point of view lol.

But wanting the insanely rich to give a more significant part (which means >0.1 %...) of their money to the poor isn't "really far-left" unless you live in "capitalist America" as opposed to "soviet Russia" in a world where a national healthcare system parallel to the private one is considered as FAR LEFT COMMUNISM! :P

[Oberon]

I mean, you go tell the dude working 100 hours he should give up his wealth for people hes never met and see how that works.

That being said that point was not brought up in this thread.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

I mean, you go tell the dude working 100 hours he should give up his wealth for people hes never met and see how that works.

Not "give up his wealth"... but like, just imagine billionaires of the world would give 5 % of their profits to people who have no money. Poverty would be something really hard to achieve XD. Now I get that this is not that simple in reality, but the idea isn't to say "everyone should be equally rich" (that's far left and literally communist). It's just something like that. And don't tell me that a billionaire giving 5 % of his profits would demolish his career or the economy xD

[Oberon]

It probably wouldn't, although I don't think that people should be expected to do that :P We should thank the ones who do because I think that's going above and beyond in some sense, its their money, they dont need to share it with anyone.

Again, sort of beyond the point that was raised though. I'm not saying that this line of thinking is far left and wasn't raelly what I was arguing against, more that thinking that all billionaires are bad is.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

It probably wouldn't, although I don't think that people should be expected to do that :P We should thank the ones who do because I think that's going above and beyond in some sense, its their money, they dont need to share it with anyone.

Again, sort of beyond the point that was raised though. I'm not saying that this line of thinking is far left and wasn't raelly what I was arguing against, more that thinking that all billionaires are bad is.

Fair. I wouldn't say it's far left though, just a point of view based on reality but severely lacking nuance (uh, no offense if anyone had that point of view lol, that's just what I think :P)

[Oberon]

Why do you think governments are literally throwing cash at poor people across the world? It's very naïve to think it's solely because they are "on tough times". These are the people who will actually get out and spend that money and put it into circulation. Now that they are being decimated by covid the economy naturally gets rolled with them. The last financial crisis our government avoided the recession unlike many other countries by doing cash injections into poor peoples pockets. Literally avoided a recession by doing it. What does that tell you? When the poor are confident to spend everything is good, if they aren't or can't then shits fucked. Seeing the financial status of countries where low wage jobs have been smashed should be a raging clue that these jobs and the people are actually very damn essential to maintaining society as it is. I work as the stock controller for a company and the amount of products that are on back order (basically a vague "it comes when it comes") is unprecedented. Warehouses cannot keep up due to workers being sick and covid restrictions hampering productivity.

These are good points but I think you’re erring by equating people who don’t buy stocks automatically with poor people. Theres a lot of people that are neither rich nor poor but somewhere in the middle.

[Stealthbomber16]

@Oberon

Why the fuck are you unironically arguing for trump in a satirical Bruno thread

[Oberon]

@Oberon

Why the fuck are you unironically arguing for trump in a satirical Bruno thread

Uh, I am not? Have you actually read the thread? Not once was the name ‘Trump’ uttered
Not sure why you’d bring Trump up in this context as he doesn’t really have anything to do with what was discussed apart from being a rich person, but I dont see you giving him as an example of a bad rich person.