And whats worse, we lose almost everything we gained today as far as reads. So. Yeah
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Why did I sign
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Like is said before I could never lynch MM day 1 even if he is MM lol because dude The Scum is in his name. I would feel so bad if MM fliped scum and game over he did not at least get a fight. ALso if he Fliped Town as I suspect also Crapy to lynch him day 1 in a game that has his name in it.
I need sleep. My Read on Zedus is Start of day I read him scummy from his posts. He then scum read me. When I said ok maybe you are town he then floped to town reading me. Then When I said no that plan is bad I think it may be from a scum POV he then went back to scum reading me then insulting me over and over. I see him doing the exact same thing to anyone who starts to scum read him.
He did it to Ren Aivion me. When he had his vote on me saying I am top scum. He was willing to change it to anyone as long as he is not voted. That is a scum PoV.
If he is Town that is a Big If. He is a liabilty to town. Becuse of how he plays if we ever get to LILO and he is town and he is alive We Auto lose becuse the 2 scum will get him pushed over. It would be to easy to build a case agest him.
I think he is MM if not we need him to be day 1 lynch if we want to have a chance t owin. This is a 9 player setup with 2 posible scum makeing 7 town one dead day one makeing it Day 2 6 town 2 mafia. posible with the 1 shot and if Sb vists MM Day 2 can be 4 town 2 scum. With the SB dead. Do you see now what I am talking about Keeping Zedus alive is anti town.
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i have found myself discussing the same thing with renegade earlier. both of you offered yourselves so i believe this is some sort of a town pattern here be it artificial or real I find it hard to vote zedus because he was already on L-1 earlier, renegade was on L-2 earlier and you/me werent even near L-3.
If I am MM, who do you think I would convert? I honestly have no idea what to answer to this.
If you are MM, I would never see you converting Zedus. However I also dont think you would push for their lynch in that sense.
I agree he is a good sacrificial lamb for day 1.
As for MM(player) I agree with the game concern but fuck cult lol
I might just vote MM for lolz because the scum role has the same name as the player playing.
The fact MM could get MM is funny.
Fuck it.
-vote MM
I wanna see that MM - MM flip for the LOLZ.
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DM moved from scumlean to towncore in my reads
okay. so now my main scumread is a guy that isnt online. I feel bad.
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on a serious note; i can't wait for day 2 and to be converted if possible
really, this was a quite fun day 1 so far, a lot of interesting thoughts and plays from all of you.
cheers
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You assume the SB is in bird with checking AIVION. I will say this Frinckles. I will be checking you.
Agreed.
Do we know when people die how they died did they die to scum night kill? Did they die to SB visting target?
Let me explaine why this play is bad. If I was MM I would love this plan. Thsi is why.
Everyone says they are visiting one target. I would then SB hunt day 1 but not open SB Hunt do it in ways people do not notice. Once I find who has highest chance to be SB. I would then use my one shot on Sb then next day let town say AIvion is MM SB visited her and SB died. Now AIVIon would be conformed town but we don’t know that becise SB died. So we lyncH AIVION day 2 makeing day 3 just another DAY 1 with 0reads everyone accusing everyone. And just help stir the pot a little prob get an easy lynch off like Zedus (remember in this world I am MM) prob make Martin my partner. And take the game for the win. Zedus said this game is Auto on Day 1 is awful.
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If I was MM I would truly prob vist Martin.
If I was SB I would visit Freckles
If I was VT I would sit at home and do nothing but have the power to vote lol .
If I become the partner of MM. well that is impossible so no point taking about that.
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what's the deal are you just pre-meditating my conversion?
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Not avoiding. I have nothing to say about him, based on low game presence. Or you want to say we are communicated mafia team, lol? There is only one scum now.
Main troubles I see with DM is that
1. he still said nothing about the plan we have to win.
2. he gives no any explainations for his "reads".
I have seen he played the same way as town, but that means nothing at all.
I don't like this post. First, there is a rule in this setup about non-voting self. Second, this gives more info for scum like "I am not SB so I don't care if I will be lynched". I think DM is town, but he puts us in an awkward position.
Very constructive. But still not the answer for my questions.
Your main problem is that I am immune to this shit. And you still ruining the game and doing nothing useful.
We need Mafia Jesus mode!
Anyone rejecting the plan of victory is my "scum reads". Because only scums or idiots playing against town's victory condition.
Lie. I said I am ready to vote anyone, who playing against the plan of victory. Like you.
Lie. I never said that.
True. You see whole game from a scum POV. Because you are scum. Or just an idiot, who cant communicate and help others win without any reason.
If she is scum this game, we will know that tomorrow. Because we have plan.
You had great chance to post answers for my questions. But you have no answer.
Yes. We more discussion we have, the more chance for scum guess the MM. We will have 2 confirmed citizens d3 and victory. This setup is kinda reverse game, there town can just do right things and make 1 player
confirmed every night, and it's more important to scum go SB-hunting, then to town go scum-hunting. It doesn't fit in the head of people like Mike, who sticked in the only "true" way to play mafia they know.
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."
You know nothing, John Snow.
Because I playing for town's victory, and this one playing only for his own dumb self.
Lie. Then we have plan A, you comes first time with this bullshit "plan will not work" with no explainations. I asked you why, you give no answer and started this "scumreading" me. I put you in my anti-town list, because you rejected the plan for victory with no explaination. After that you re-read the plan, the rules and come and said "oh, I haven't seen we have no LW in this setup, now I understand what you want", and I removed you from "anti-town" list to "missunderstanding" list. But then we improved the plan to plan C, agreed with majority, you comes again with this bullshit "plan will not works". I asked you to explain step by step why you think so, because if you have REALLY reason to think so, we can fix the plan or create another. You ignored that questions and start act like scum or anti-town troll, and you continue it. This is the truth, not that bullshit you saying. Everyone can re-read that dialogue and check that.
I agree with plan C.
Even if game is already over, I am still agree, why not?
So, I remind you the plan we have.
1. We lynching someone.
2. SB visiting AIVION this night. If AIVION is SB, she visit Mike as she said. If Mike is lynched, she visit Bakermir.
3.a. If someone dies (and flips SB), we will know AIVION is scum. Lynch her. GG.
3.b. If AIVION dies (and flips SB), we will know Mike is scum (or Baker is scum, if Mike lynched). Lynch him. GG.
3.c. Day 2 we will have AIVION as confirmed immune citizen. Scum will have someone, but not AIVION, converted. It's realy doesn't matter, who will be converted. We just publicly choose one more person to make that person 2nd confirmed immune citizen, that person called their target (in the case that person is SB) and we loop the cycle.
4. D3 we have 2 confirmed immune citizens. And evils have their n2 check for SB. From this moment SB can just reveal, group with 2 confirmed citizens and own the majority. Every townie must just follow the votes of 2 confirmed citizens, and town will never lose, because evils will never have majority. GG.
I agree with plan C.
Even if game is already over, I am still agree, why not?
All we need is NOT LYNCH SB d1 or d2.
That's why some citizen (but not the chosen one) can just sacrifice himself for town's victory.
Well, we can also scumhunting (with your shamanic reading with the result of lynching random ppl with no real reasons, lol). At this moment smart scum will be just focused on SB-hunting, because time is works for town, and if SB will alive d3, town wins. Also scum can refuse this plan, because he don't want to lose. SB-hunting is hard scum marker, refusing the plan is soft scum marker, that's what we should looking for. Lynching refusers is good, because they are anti-town, even if not scum, and probably will start some bullshit (like Mike already doing) and say plan will not work (with no any real reason to say that) and confuse people day 2.
Remember that AIVION will be confirmed tomorrow. I really believe our SB have brain and joined the plan, so he will convert her. I have such "feeling", lol.
I agree with plan C.
Even if game is already over, I am still agree, why not?
~450 posts to read... okay
I think you were being called out for having said "concerned parent" specifically, although I don't think this is damning at all personally lol. Your reaction is perfectly understandable given the weakness of the argument, so I'm rather liking this atm.
But you thought he did SB-hunt, just didn't have an opinion on what it meant. All I was asking is "why do you think that" :P
But ok, that makes things a bit clearer. Also I retract my retraction of my townread on you because the confusion was real lol
Also, to clarify my earlier stance on Zedus (because it seems mike still thinks he should be lynched): I wanted to push him because although his plan is pro-town, it doesn't necessarily mean that he's town. His reaction to being pushed was needed to at least estimate with enough confidence that he wasn't bullshitting us as scum and trying to get easy lynches on people who don't get into his plan. His defense was coherent, made sense, and the thought process behind it seemed genuine (yes, I am here using shamanic reads). Therefore, I don't think he should be lynched.
I for one say hell no to my new non-overlord.
You jumped from "DM is scummy" here:
justifying-ish your scumread on DM here:
to "DM is 100 % town today" here:
... basically for the same reason you originally scumread him.-vote Frinckles
@Mike you're not helping your case here if you're town, all I've seen from you recently is "THUNDERDOME THUNDERDOME". Answer or get a vote. (if you already answered please quote it though lol)
The truth is that if someone is realy see some weak point in the plan, we have enought time to fix that. We have already found some weak points and fixed it. Now, from my point, plan is perfect. Well, I can be wrong about that, and if someone will find another weak point and explain that, we can fix it too. But then someone just saying "I see 1000 ways how to use that plan vs town" without explaination of at least one of this "1000 ways", he is just anti-town troll, confusing others, or scum. In the both cases we don't need players this type.
I agree with plan C.
Even if game is already over, I am still agree, why not?
If that player really have one of this "1000 ways" and hiding that from others, he is scum and he wants to use that way.
If that player don't realy have something, but continue blaming the plan with some selfish dumb reason, he is anti-town troll.
If that player is townie and realy know some weak point of the plan, he should already explained that step by step, so we all can think about that.
I agree with plan C.
Even if game is already over, I am still agree, why not?
/afk for 2-3 hours.
I agree with plan C.
Even if game is already over, I am still agree, why not?
/Out of alignments, speaking as FM staff commenting on rules
By the way, none of this is allowed. I know this is some hundred posts ago, but really, stop it. This is a reminder that breaking the FM Rules (link) will likely result in disciplinary action post-game. This is about everyone. Thanks.
/back in game
I actually have, coffee this morning so I shouldn't wanna lynch MM out of anger
Everybody is equally weak on the inside, just that some present their ruins as new castles and become kings –
Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before.
If your dear heart is wounded, my wild heart bleeds with yours.
Everybody is equally weak on the inside, just that some present their ruins as new castles and become kings –
Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before.
If your dear heart is wounded, my wild heart bleeds with yours.
Everybody is equally weak on the inside, just that some present their ruins as new castles and become kings –
Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before.
If your dear heart is wounded, my wild heart bleeds with yours.
Everybody is equally weak on the inside, just that some present their ruins as new castles and become kings –
Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before.
If your dear heart is wounded, my wild heart bleeds with yours.