S-FM 306: Mafia Wars (13p Ongoing)

[BananaCucho]

-vote unvote

If i had to quack to death three people right now it would be VARCRON, AUWT, MESK

I have slight town, SLIGHT on MM and baker for having thoughts that align with my own. Banana tonally seems pure and okay for now.

I did have a town lean on frinckles but RIP.

You tryna pocket me by copying my lunch pool there bub?

[BananaCucho]

I do like duck's points that they've laid out

As for Mesk, she's a slot that I think will eventually solve itself later on

[BananaCucho]

@Mal low

Go duck yourself, SQUAWK, I'm hitting dat cap momentarily. If you wanna vote me or question me, NOW'S YOUR CHANCE BUBBA

[LuckyDucky]

You tryna pocket me by copying my lunch pool there bub?

Sure hop right in under my feathery wing.

[BananaCucho]

Do I get pocketed by the duck again

I think I do

[Marshmallow Marshall]

I hope this wasn't Gambino vs Gambino but I think neither of them would YOLO like this without a reason. I am quite sad honestly this happened so early but one can only hope one of them was based.

Maybe it is a good idea to reread their exchanges with people. I still don't understand this move honestly

Sadly, I think Light would do that as town lol, and we have to pray he was right to kill Frinckles. We'll see at EoD, but for now I think we have to focus on other people.

[LuckyDucky]

Do I get pocketed by the duck again

I think I do

This time around I can assure you that you won't want to strip me of my feathers and roast me upon an open flame after the game

[BananaCucho]

I think Kira is extremely apt at reading people. Not always right, but maybe something was pinging him about Pringles in particular, and if Pringles flips scum I'll be extremely happy he solved that slot for us

That being said, RIP MY PRINCE COME BACK TO ME I JUST WANNA MOOFIA WIT JU

[BananaCucho]

This time around I can assure you that you won't want to strip me of my feathers and roast me upon an open flame after the game

Ay Tone, wasn't even mad at u for that game, was impressive how you pocketed myself and toilet man

[BananaCucho]

Mallow I got 7 posts left. Ask your questions or keep your silence, CHARRRRRRRR

[bakermir]

Looks like Light isn't a cool guy then...
Also 100 posts!!! NOW @BananaCucho DON'T YOU DARE CAP YOURSELF AGAIN, YOU HAVE A SECOND CHANCE
About no lynch, it's a terrible idea. Scum have 2 nightkills in total. Town needs to even things out (by actually lynching scum). No lynch almost always sucks, exception being at MYLO.

oh shit

i totally missed that post from Light with a youtube link

what the hell?

[BananaCucho]

oh shit

i totally missed that post from Light with a youtube link

what the hell?

Its easy to miss the big red boxes that dont play

[LuckyDucky]

Sadly, I think Light would do that as town lol, and we have to pray he was right to kill Frinckles. We'll see at EoD, but for now I think we have to focus on other people.

Light would totally fire away on someone that he thinks is scum without even interacting. I don't see frinckles doing that in any world though. I also don't see a Luciano wasting this day one. I could see a possible FBI recruit doing this though. It would be rather nifty, If the FBI culted someone successfully and they had the Brutalizer abillity, they'd use it in the name of the Glorious FBI leader lol. Then he could just recruit someone the next night. In both these players cases though I don't see either of them just throwing away a chance to play a scum game like that if they were FBI recruit. From what I can gather the "Brutalizer" was likely town and likely Light knowing Light that's something I would put money on. I would also put money on Light quacking a townie lol.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

hmm I see your point with people doing reads based on peoples setup spec. It have a high chance of ending up bad.

I have a feeling we are royally screwed and I am not sure how to get out of this. any ideas?

This + the post where bakermir says he doesn't townread me even though he agrees with me on the Janitor no-use concern make me townread him (since I don't think I have done anything particularly towny this game). I have the exact same feeling about the game, too: we're screwed lol. Hop in the town spot.

Also, I think Banana is still being himself and idk if being himself is actually only being his town self, so ugh, I guess I'm slightly leaning town on him.

Ducky is a manipulative monster, and I will not read him atm for meta reasons lol

Naz seems normal to me, but also doesn't give any real reads, which is meh. I expect more from her.

Same for Mesk the perma citizen. I actually wonder if she has been moled, seeing her performance in last game. Waiting on more.

[BananaCucho]

This + the post where bakermir says he doesn't townread me even though he agrees with me on the Janitor no-use concern make me townread him (since I don't think I have done anything particularly towny this game). I have the exact same feeling about the game, too: we're screwed lol. Hop in the town spot.

Also, I think Banana is still being himself and idk if being himself is actually only being his town self, so ugh, I guess I'm slightly leaning town on him.

Ducky is a manipulative monster, and I will not read him atm for meta reasons lol

Naz seems normal to me, but also doesn't give any real reads, which is meh. I expect more from her.

Same for Mesk the perma citizen. I actually wonder if she has been moled, seeing her performance in last game. Waiting on more.

Why didn't you raise your hand? You've done townie things

[BananaCucho]

I should leave 1 post, in case that I want to quickhammer someone hue hue hue

[Marshmallow Marshall]

oh shit

i totally missed that post from Light with a youtube link

what the hell?

Yeah, Light always posts videos lol. And if you're lucky, you get to actually understand what they are supposed to mean.

Light would totally fire away on someone that he thinks is scum without even interacting. I don't see frinckles doing that in any world though. I also don't see a Luciano wasting this day one. I could see a possible FBI recruit doing this though. It would be rather nifty, If the FBI culted someone successfully and they had the Brutalizer abillity, they'd use it in the name of the Glorious FBI leader lol. Then he could just recruit someone the next night. In both these players cases though I don't see either of them just throwing away a chance to play a scum game like that if they were FBI recruit. From what I can gather the "Brutalizer" was likely town and likely Light knowing Light that's something I would put money on. I would also put money on Light quacking a townie lol.

It's definetly Light because of the video he posted just before the announcement. It's also possible that he's a mole... but uh, who the hell would recruit Light on N0 lol? Now we just hope that Punchy was an evil squawk.

[LuckyDucky]

Ay Tone, wasn't even mad at u for that game, was impressive how you pocketed myself and toilet man

Just tell me you will take care of my ducklings if anything ever happens to me

Do you feel strongly about anyone being town right now that could help channel my inner quack?

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Mallow I got 7 posts left. Ask your questions or keep your silence, CHARRRRRRRR

Thy read on Bakermir and on Varcron, O spamana lord

Why didn't you raise your hand? You've done townie things

Well, I guess? I just don't see myself as particularly towny this game compared to other games I've played, and Bakermir's read seemed honest, which was my point.

[BananaCucho]

Just tell me you will take care of my ducklings if anything ever happens to me

Do you feel strongly about anyone being town right now that could help channel my inner quack?

Not many strong town right now no, I like mallow, yourself, baker and naz so far. But I could be swayed against any of you depending on what else happens tbh

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Its easy to miss the big red boxes that dont play

... lol

Just tell me you will take care of my ducklings if anything ever happens to me

Do you feel strongly about anyone being town right now that could help channel my inner quack?

Are you Kenny the duck? HAVE WE FINALLY FOUND HIM?

[bakermir]

Not many strong town right now no, I like mallow, yourself, baker and naz so far. But I could be swayed against any of you depending on what else happens tbh

based

pretty much feeling like a scum swimming here and feeling like other scums are out there somewhere

[BananaCucho]

Thy read on Bakermir and on Varcron, O spamana lord


Well, I guess? I just don't see myself as particularly towny this game compared to other games I've played, and Bakermir's read seemed honest, which was my point.

I like Baker so far, tho I may admit that I may be biased towards the lil guy. My first game with him and I've got a soft spot for him already.

Vacuum is in my lunch pool for today. The "TvT" interaction felt forced, the whole janitor thing is weird, and to top it off there was one post in particular that just kinda bothered me, this one:

Banana wasting all of his posts in the first hour means he can avoid questioning until EOD which is bad

Like he's played enough games with me that he should know that my spam is NAI. I would think. Which was a big plus for you btw, here's what I typed up on you that I planned on bringing along when I got unlocked near EOD:

Spoiler : Mallow :

Oh shit this is the post-count limited game, I forgot about it! Stop spam shitposting lmao, place your votes and start doing what we should have done in Spirits: DO RVS EARLY

I initially was feeling very weird about MM. Like, this is just... strange? There's no way he actually forgot this, but I can probably chalk it up to a casual way of reminding people of the post limit in... dramatic fashion

Indeed my friend, indeed. I like this post a lot, both fun-wise and alignment-wise (mostly fun-wise though).

I also thought this post was strange... I don't see how it can be alignment indicative?

Which point would he be trying to prove? That he doesn't want to play D1 lol? I expect contributions from him at EoD, not really a hail Mary though.
Changing my vote to

-vote Varcron

because gut and because a vote on Banana is completely useless atm

Do you think that Banana's turboposting is AI at all (anti-town =/= scummy)? I think he's just being Banana with uh, "Banana-energy" lol, and that it's not indicative of anything outside of him being him.

Mallow then turns things around for me with a pair of good posts regarding my shitposting. They aren't alignment indicative at all, and correcting people who are thinking I'm making some sort of play here, or are reading too much into my initial posts is pretty pro-town.

I had a mini heart attack because I thought this was Marck Wilbird's avatar. Nice avatar though. SQUAWK

You think we're TvT? It's rather unusual to see one of the two interacting players say that their interaction looks TvT; the fact that you're saying this shows a conscious distance between you and your play. I'm not sold on the TvT theory :P

Mallow further strengthens my town lean on him by pointing out this weird note from Vacuum. Like, the whole "I think we are TvT" post by Vacuum is just... weird. I don't know how else to put it.

Tl;dr I think mallow took a few posts to settle in this game, had some awkward initial interactions, but eventually found a nice spot in my town group for the day


Also this is what I typed up on Auntie Auwt as well before I got uncapped

Spoiler : Auntie :

Hi we are all scum this game, lovely.



True.

By the way what's up with wasting all your 40 posts lol.
Don't you want to have a kind of discussion?
I'm down to be voting any of the 40-post early maker as a D1 lynch.

Auntie puts for the lazy/easy argument of "kill one of the people hitting their cap early

There can be many reasons on why people would want to do that. Troll can be an option, as well as a forced coasting cuz now we know Banana and Frinckles wont be answering to anything else before eod1 -4h. This can also be a strategy. I do not know what to think about people burning their post count that easily.

Auntie then backs off a bit while still trying to push this idea that Banana/Pringles should be under scrutiny for trollposting. But the problem I have here is then he kinda backs off it a bit, leaving his interpretation open for others to fill in for him. Instead of offering "I think Banana/Pringles should die for x,y,z", it's "I'm okay with Banana/Pringles dying, the reasoning could be x,y,z, but what do you guys think?"

It also comes after MM's 195 where MM states that I'll get a pass for blowing through my posts and Naz's 203 so it would make sense from a scum perspective to back off of an initially easy idea that turns out to be unpopular

It also could be that Auntie is just trying to put forth the idea of "don't blow through your posts" as MM did, just less eloquently so

Also scum points for setup spec. Auntie is in my POE pool for today

Tl;dr Auntie comes off as someone who is testing the waters of taking the easy route, trying to set up easy lunches early, and then backing off a bit when the idea is not as popular as he initially though. I’m good with Auntie being in my day 1 lunch pool

My view of Auwt has NOT improved with his backing off of me when I was going after him for not questioning me while being around. I think Auntie would be a fine lunch today, mmm tasty

[BananaCucho]

Note that the stuff I wrote above hasn't been touched since I got unlocked

[LuckyDucky]

Yeah, Light always posts videos lol. And if you're lucky, you get to actually understand what they are supposed to mean.


It's definetly Light because of the video he posted just before the announcement. It's also possible that he's a mole... but uh, who the hell would recruit Light on N0 lol? Now we just hope that Punchy was an evil squawk.

Uhhhm, I totally would recruit Light N1 if I were FBI agent lol. I actually enjoy playing with Light most of the time.

Not many strong town right now no, I like mallow, yourself, baker and naz so far. But I could be swayed against any of you depending on what else happens tbh

Okay banana man.

... lol


Are you Kenny the duck? HAVE WE FINALLY FOUND HIM?

I believe the Ducks name was Timmy, and in that game I slaughtered the duck because I was a killer duck.

[BananaCucho]

I have one post left, so

[Varcron]

Just catching up now for anyone waiting on an answer from me.

4 pages behind

[Mesk514]

Same for Mesk the perma citizen. I actually wonder if she has been moled, seeing her performance in last game. Waiting on more.

nah

[Marshmallow Marshall]

I like Baker so far, tho I may admit that I may be biased towards the lil guy. My first game with him and I've got a soft spot for him already.

Vacuum is in my lunch pool for today. The "TvT" interaction felt forced, the whole janitor thing is weird, and to top it off there was one post in particular that just kinda bothered me, this one:



Like he's played enough games with me that he should know that my spam is NAI. I would think. Which was a big plus for you btw, here's what I typed up on you that I planned on bringing along when I got unlocked near EOD:

Spoiler : Mallow :

I initially was feeling very weird about MM. Like, this is just... strange? There's no way he actually forgot this, but I can probably chalk it up to a casual way of reminding people of the post limit in... dramatic fashion



I also thought this post was strange... I don't see how it can be alignment indicative?





Mallow then turns things around for me with a pair of good posts regarding my shitposting. They aren't alignment indicative at all, and correcting people who are thinking I'm making some sort of play here, or are reading too much into my initial posts is pretty pro-town.



Mallow further strengthens my town lean on him by pointing out this weird note from Vacuum. Like, the whole "I think we are TvT" post by Vacuum is just... weird. I don't know how else to put it.

Tl;dr I think mallow took a few posts to settle in this game, had some awkward initial interactions, but eventually found a nice spot in my town group for the day


Also this is what I typed up on Auntie Auwt as well before I got uncapped

Spoiler : Auntie :

Auntie puts for the lazy/easy argument of "kill one of the people hitting their cap early



Auntie then backs off a bit while still trying to push this idea that Banana/Pringles should be under scrutiny for trollposting. But the problem I have here is then he kinda backs off it a bit, leaving his interpretation open for others to fill in for him. Instead of offering "I think Banana/Pringles should die for x,y,z", it's "I'm okay with Banana/Pringles dying, the reasoning could be x,y,z, but what do you guys think?"

It also comes after MM's 195 where MM states that I'll get a pass for blowing through my posts and Naz's 203 so it would make sense from a scum perspective to back off of an initially easy idea that turns out to be unpopular

It also could be that Auntie is just trying to put forth the idea of "don't blow through your posts" as MM did, just less eloquently so

Also scum points for setup spec. Auntie is in my POE pool for today

Tl;dr Auntie comes off as someone who is testing the waters of taking the easy route, trying to set up easy lunches early, and then backing off a bit when the idea is not as popular as he initially though. I’m good with Auntie being in my day 1 lunch pool

My view of Auwt has NOT improved with his backing off of me when I was going after him for not questioning me while being around. I think Auntie would be a fine lunch today, mmm tasty

Bakermir buttered unknowningly buttered you up with his chart last game, didn't he lol. Do you have specific reasons to townread him?

Good about Varcron, there's even an original element to the case against him (his post about your spam). I think that could be attributed to town seeing spam as anti-town and therefore scummy, which may not be a correct reasoning but still an understandable and common one, though. That being said, you could also be right, idk. I think I'm going for the traditional D1 Varcron lynch here unless somebody else convinces me to vote them lol.

I like the part about me, not because it townreads me but because it shows a good thought process likely to come from town. Note that I still like Bakermir not townreading me because I don't think he reads into the kind of stuff you read into here.

Mmmm well, Auwt certainly isn't in my townreads because he did nothing really towny in my eyes, but it's pretty likely that he's legitimately unhappy with the spam that had occured under the 40 posts cap. More of a null read to me, but ok.


Summary: Banana hops in the town list

[bakermir]

I miss "Ay Tone"

[Varcron]

word

Okay Pringles, literally 90% of what you have said so far is shitposting

@naz Ds is an official houstonian btw

Approved.

FLIP FLIP FLIP

Little did Blinkskater and DS know, I just feigned being inspired to manipulate them further,

ok that's a lie.

Just a few examples of wasting his posts so he likely will not be able to answer questions later on during the day which seems scummy to me.

On page 4 (50 posts per page) alone there is about 26 shitposts aka OVER A QUARTER AFTER BOOSTED TO 100 of your D1 posts limited for the day.

It appears that Pringles is making an attempt to reach his post count as to not have interactions before EOD

Btw Vacuum when you posted in the signup thread I pretty much died

Trust me I died too.

Bakermir and Ducky for me are 100% town for their posting habits and content this game as of D1

Vacuum is in my lunch pool for today. The "TvT" interaction felt forced, the whole janitor thing is weird, and to top it off there was one post in particular that just kinda bothered me, this one:

I already told you I am changing my approach to the game this game as town.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Uhhhm, I totally would recruit Light N1 if I were FBI agent lol. I actually enjoy playing with Light most of the time.

Okay banana man.

I believe the Ducks name was Timmy, and in that game I slaughtered the duck because I was a killer duck.

Huh ok, so you're the main suspect if Light flips Mole xD

Oh right, Kenny is the name of the human being who was looking for his Timmy duck. Oops

nah

yah

-vote Mesk514

YAAHHHHHH

[Varcron]

Bakermir buttered unknowningly buttered you up with his chart last game, didn't he lol. Do you have specific reasons to townread him?

Good about Varcron, there's even an original element to the case against him (his post about your spam). I think that could be attributed to town seeing spam as anti-town and therefore scummy, which may not be a correct reasoning but still an understandable and common one, though. That being said, you could also be right, idk. I think I'm going for the traditional D1 Varcron lynch here unless somebody else convinces me to vote them lol.

I like the part about me, not because it townreads me but because it shows a good thought process likely to come from town. Note that I still like Bakermir not townreading me because I don't think he reads into the kind of stuff you read into here.

Mmmm well, Auwt certainly isn't in my townreads because he did nothing really towny in my eyes, but it's pretty likely that he's legitimately unhappy with the spam that had occured under the 40 posts cap. More of a null read to me, but ok.


Summary: Banana hops in the town list

This doesn't make sense to me, explain it.

[LuckyDucky]

This + the post where bakermir says he doesn't townread me even though he agrees with me on the Janitor no-use concern make me townread him (since I don't think I have done anything particularly towny this game). I have the exact same feeling about the game, too: we're screwed lol. Hop in the town spot.

Also, I think Banana is still being himself and idk if being himself is actually only being his town self, so ugh, I guess I'm slightly leaning town on him.

Ducky is a manipulative monster, and I will not read him atm for meta reasons lol

Naz seems normal to me, but also doesn't give any real reads, which is meh. I expect more from her.

Same for Mesk the perma citizen. I actually wonder if she has been moled, seeing her performance in last game. Waiting on more.

QUACK QUACK. I just noticed this you animal! You at some point need to acknowledge this. I do have good feelings about you right now, you pointed out Varcron calling that early TVT I think as awkward or something like that, I happen to agree that the comment felt forced and out of place.

YOU NEED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE META FOR WHAT IS! UNBROKEN AND ALWAYS TRUE!

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Okay Pringles, literally 90% of what you have said so far is shitposting

Just a few examples of wasting his posts so he likely will not be able to answer questions later on during the day which seems scummy to me.

On page 4 (50 posts per page) alone there is about 26 shitposts aka OVER A QUARTER AFTER BOOSTED TO 100 of your D1 posts limited for the day.

It appears that Pringles is making an attempt to reach his post count as to not have interactions before EOD

Trust me I died too.

Bakermir and Ducky for me are 100% town for their posting habits and content this game as of D1

I already told you I am changing my approach to the game this game as town.

Someone's gonna be sad when he'll see he argued with someone who ate a grenade in the face

You're pretty quick to towncore Bakermir (although I can understand this one, I wouldn't towncore him) and especially Ducky.

[Varcron]

Someone's gonna be sad when he'll see he argued with someone who ate a grenade in the face

You're pretty quick to towncore Bakermir (although I can understand this one, I wouldn't towncore him) and especially Ducky.

I've never played with Ducky so that read is more tentative and are by no means locked

From what I read about you referring to Ducky as manipulative kind of makes me want to re read to see if I come to the same conclusion.

Until that point (likely later today) they're in my townreads along with MM, Cucho, and DS

[Marshmallow Marshall]

QUACK QUACK. I just noticed this you animal! You at some point need to acknowledge this. I do have good feelings about you right now, you pointed out Varcron calling that early TVT I think as awkward or something like that, I happen to agree that the comment felt forced and out of place.

YOU NEED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE META FOR WHAT IS! UNBROKEN AND ALWAYS TRUE!

Tries to fly away BUT REALIZES HE DOESN'T HAVE WINGS

Your scum range is so huge that literally nothing you did yet goes out of it or even comes close to it XD

[Varcron]

I'd also like to point out Renegade, Yagami, and DM all have less posts than the host currently and appear to be coasting under the radar.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

I've never played with Ducky so that read is more tentative and are by no means locked

From what I read about you referring to Ducky as manipulative kind of makes me want to re read to see if I come to the same conclusion.

Until that point (likely later today) they're in my townreads along with MM, Cucho, and DS

I mean that the player is a manipulation quacklord, not necessarily that he manipulated people in this game (although he probably did lol). Also

Bakermir and Ducky for me are 100% town for their posting habits and content this game as of D1

100 % town means 100 % town.

[Varcron]

based

pretty much feeling like a scum swimming here and feeling like other scums are out there somewhere

They're probably in the group of people currently considered AFK with less posts than the host.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

I'd also like to point out Renegade, Yagami, and DM all have less posts than the host currently and appear to be coasting under the radar.

Ah yes, the dead are coasting.

Fair point about Renegade and DM though, especially DM whom I would not expect to be inactive like this.

[Varcron]

I mean that the player is a manipulation quacklord, not necessarily that he manipulated people in this game (although he probably did lol). Also

100 % town means 100 % town.

I should rephrase to 100% town currently in my eyes. Reads change over time.

Except yes I will re look at quacky soon.

[Varcron]

Ah yes, the dead are coasting.

Fair point about Renegade and DM though, especially DM whom I would not expect to be inactive like this.

I did not notice that Yagami died? But okay

[bakermir]

I'd also like to point out Renegade, Yagami, and DM all have less posts than the host currently and appear to be coasting under the radar.

I would add DS in this group and probably take out DM.

Just looking at post count isn't a good metric. I believe DM's posts were full of content while DS was more like vibin

[LuckyDucky]

Tries to fly away BUT REALIZES HE DOESN'T HAVE WINGS

Your scum range is so huge that literally nothing you did yet goes out of it or even comes close to it XD

IDK if you are trying to appeal to my ego here or what. Duck's don't have ego's we have webbed feet and a bill. I don't like the fact that you say this, I don't think you've ever appealed to me like this before as either alignment.

You also know that I will have your alignment locked in by the EOD today, for now town lean, very easily subject to change based on your ability to fall into certain habits when your a wolf : D

[LuckyDucky]

I mean that the player is a manipulation quacklord, not necessarily that he manipulated people in this game (although he probably did lol). Also

100 % town means 100 % town.

I don't like how Var casually doubles down on things when pushed a bit, going from 100%, to instantly saying nothings locked in lol

-vote varcron

[Marshmallow Marshall]

IDK if you are trying to appeal to my ego here or what. Duck's don't have ego's we have webbed feet and a bill. I don't like the fact that you say this, I don't think you've ever appealed to me like this before as either alignment.

You also know that I will have your alignment locked in by the EOD today, for now town lean, very easily subject to change based on your ability to fall into certain habits when your a wolf : D

If you mean "going offline", that's in my plans ;)

And I'm not appealing to your ego, I'm stating things as they are. I've learnt about the beautiful concept of scum range in champs, and I think it applies to you a lot.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

I don't like how Var casually doubles down on things when pushed a bit, going from 100%, to instantly saying nothings locked in lol

-vote varcron

Yep, it is bullshit-looking to me too lol

I also agree that DS goes into the inactive pool, but don't really see why DM would be out of it.

[Varcron]

I don't like how Var casually doubles down on things when pushed a bit, going from 100%, to instantly saying nothings locked in lol

-vote varcron

Interpretation of what I posted was different for me than the rest of you apparently.

[bakermir]

Ah yes, the dead are coasting.

Fair point about Renegade and DM though, especially DM whom I would not expect to be inactive like this.

What do you think of DM's "not fbi" read on Light? I was quite stuck with that one since it was quite spontaneous. I mean, this is how we know him from last game too. He had some good catches and he was being accused by scum players.

Light seems like they tried to interact with Frinckles in a way.

There is something here we are missing or unable to see. However, DM claimed something that will deffo gonna hurt him back now depending on flips.