It is pre-setup for a possible sheep on "x person is probably the Virus" claims. Its not just a "feel" thing, that was me preety much admitting it.
Fact is, I've never played with a possible 3P, so I really just don't know how that works out in an actual FM game. Not to mention, a lot of the studying of games I did prior to my first game were mafia vs. town setups -- they didn't have a 3P. So I'm not sure but my thinking may have to radically change if I want to find the 3P -- that may mean relying on others for that. And I think that may be okay, since a 3P in this setup never really has teammates.
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
Let's see in some hours when I comeback, how many scums will find random reasons to vote Mike off.
With this in mind, i'll go off for a bit.
I am sitting here reading what you posted all I can do is
If mafia thinks I am am a threat. I did bait them. (looks who took the bait) They can kill me at night. I hard claim I am not the medic (only thing I did ) HMMMM maybe there is a medic out there that could heal me WOW AMAZEING. But you read that as TPR hunting BS. You need to be todays lynch and I want to see who comes out and defends you.
I was thinking you might be town just trolling or reaction testing. But when you flat out lied and gave that weak excuses DUDE YOU ARE OUTED SCUM. Wolf or Virus I don't care both a town win.
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So I've thought a fair bit about mike and his claim, and I think he's more likely to be town rather than scum for it at the moment.
Here's a few issues/pointers:
-Its not exactly PR hunting. It only removes them from the possibility of being healer in the future -- there's a lot of other possible town slots or roles he could be.
-Lets assume its PR hunting. Since that's supposedly scummy, why would he start with himself as scum??? He already knows he's not-town (if he's scum), so why clear himself of being a Healer when he already knows that?
-Not to mention, this could just be to WIFOM the scum and virus into thinking he is not the healer when he is.
Overall, regardless of what town slot he is (assuming he is town, which i believe to be more plausible than scum), this is a really safe and smart move. Anyone attacking him for a relatively safe move that isn't truly PR hunting is just foolish or scum looking for something they thought was a cheap shot that was good.
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
well i wanted to get this but in a more peaceful setting.
would you be willing to put our arms to the side for the time being? i am only afraid of hammering (4 votes) if someone votes by mistake. also I don't want you flipping town and me getting lynched next. i would rather lynch evil
afraid of evils that is. there are currently 4 of them.
When I posted that, I didn't even see any mention of you claiming :P it was just my general advice about the setup. Also, "having a day of reads" doesn't equal "saying that every single post is AI and immediatly significant on D1", because that's not true lol. D1 posts become extremely interesting when you look at them through the lens of around D3, because usually people have claimed on D3 and "sides" have formed; looking at D1 allows you to compare D1 behaviors with current day behavior.
Also, I said you were potentially trying to change the meta, i.e. the site's meta, not your personal meta. So no, that isn't "crap".
Hardclaiming "not X" is... questionable? I guess it allows for some WIFOM, and I don't even really oppose it.
However, this is OMGUS. The only reason for which you could want to lynch me is because I scumread you. I'm happy with my vote atm. Also, I haven't fully read the thread but Bakermir looked rather good to me.
It isn't true at all. I'd go as far as saying that it's actually bullshit lol.
Also @Mike since Mafia's power is at night, why do you want people not to vote early lol? Let's use the day as much as we can, and let's get as much info as we can from it. You're a good start for this
Here is the progression of this convo.
4 scum 7 votes to lynch only takes 3 town to mis vote or early vote and town is screwed.
I wrote baker off a him voteing me a bit trolly. but then when I asked him to explaine it. you see his explanation. he ever said at start it was not real. But adds a little scum painting in. NO reads.
He starts to vote be becuse I Said TPR hunting is bad to Darks post. Dark explained why he said what he did I droped it. But backer voted
I am ok maybe a town who misread it Asked hinm to tell me why he gave BS. I still did not scum read himi for it.
I did not like the MM jump on it. That is so not Town MM play I am used to.
Then Baker tryes to claim I was HARD CLAIMING A ROLE I did not I hard claimed I was not a role.
Then baker claims I was TPR hunting I called him out on that lie and he then SAid ME hard not claiming not a role was PR hunting BS.
-vote bakermir
This needs to be todays lynch.
At least I can back up myreads not just give BS.
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Wolfs have the advantage of votes. If town understand this we have a better chance of winning. Virous Does not give a crap who dies. Wolfs know this. all they need to do is see or start a train and only takes 3 town to vote and boom Virius will jump in and town is hammered.
I know yo ucan say we will kill who ever hammers hell Blink used to hammer all the time and say I am hammering IDGAF. and he was hardly ever lynched the next day.
WHy give scum any power.
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i have no problem getting lynched today but I assure everyone will be disappointed when i flip town so you are only helping mafia here with all of this.
i leave it to rest of the people here. i wish to not continue this discussion with mike because it helps his agenda. he wants to drag everyone to this beef and making a scene. still a karen.
I had valuable reactions to my vote and thats all I needed. this is beyond out of control now. town votes mike then i will be ok with it. if town isn't voting him, i don't mind. i am only keeping my vote on him because of continuous aggression i am facing by this point.
First time doing forum mafia. I've played a lot of ingame sc2 though and would consider myself familiar with strategy concepts and wincons. So in what world can you guys possibly start lynching on D1??
Unless I'm being trolled /shrug
This is where forum mafia differs from the mod. In forum mafia, a Day 1 lynch provides countless opportunities for information, and it also allows the town (if down properly) to get a head start on the scum.
Also, when in doubt, lynch the useless people that will harm you later on.
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Sorry posting from my phone and not my computer.
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I can see it don’t agree with it but can see where you key word might be thinking that.
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I will be leaving soon for a while.
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I don’t believe what he says ever comes from a PR mindset.