Why do so many people support a pedophile for president?

[Ash]

[BananaCucho]

Did I fall asleep and wake up in 2016

[oops_ur_dead]

Hey man, don't you know that when you get as big and famous as Donald Trump it's a given that you'll accidentally take about 50 photos with multiple prolific pedophiles and child traffickers and make friends with them and make jokes about them fucking underage girls and also defend them when they get arrested. It's just a coincidence.

[Ganelon]

What about the pepey flag
Pretty sure a fascist like him would pose behind the pepey flag

[oops_ur_dead]

What about the pepey flag
Pretty sure a fascist like him would pose behind the pepey flag

I mean if Trump was posing next to an actual Nazi flag (not a pepe flag) then yeah that'd be pretty sus lmao.

[Ganelon]

But the pepey flag is for godamn alt right supporters and leaders

[oops_ur_dead]

But the pepey flag is for godamn alt right supporters and leaders

I don't understand your point.

[Ganelon]

Meh I’m just kidding. Go on
Im gonna stay out of political threads bc tbh politics is kinda cringe ngl

[Marshmallow Marshall]

That's why

[Ganelon]

It’s interesting that people willcall donald trump anything just because they don’t like the guy. I mean, at least the (usual) criticism I hear about Bernie Sanders is on point - because his rhetoric really puts him in that camp (as well hi, you know, past. The dude literally vacationed in the Soviet Union. If Trump vacationed in Nazi Germany people would be screaming, and rightfully so).

[Ganelon]

I myself didnt like him that much until I started actively following his twitter account (as well as news on him). He actually seems like a remarkably normal person.

[BananaCucho]

It’s interesting that people willcall donald trump anything just because they don’t like the guy. I mean, at least the (usual) criticism I hear about Bernie Sanders is on point - because his rhetoric really puts him in that camp (as well hi, you know, past. The dude literally vacationed in the Soviet Union. If Trump vacationed in Nazi Germany people would be screaming, and rightfully so).

"I don't get why people criticize [person aligning with my ideology]. At least criticisms about [person not aligning with my ideology] make sense!"

[rumox]

What echo chambers do you subscribe to? Sanders was slammed for stuff as much as Trump is/was

[rumox]

Are you saying trumps criticism is unfounded whereas Sanders is?

[Ganelon]

Oh I don’t know if he gets criticized over unfounded claims. Seeing as he’s a politician he probably does. My point is, I don’t understand people calling Donald Trump a pedophile or whatever else he gets called, because attacking your political opponents for something they didn’t do is inherently counterproductive. I don’t do that, hence why I find threads like this one bizarre.

[Ganelon]

And yeh, I do think the current political climate favours namecalling Trump over other candidates (especially seeing as he’s the President and therefore in the spotlight). I don’t really follow Democratic news or whatever you want to call them, so I probably do miss some of the shit Democratic candidates get accused of. My impression however is that there’s more shit flinging towards Trump and republicans in general, though.

[SuperJack]

It’s interesting that people willcall donald trump anything just because they don’t like the guy. I mean, at least the (usual) criticism I hear about Bernie Sanders is on point - because his rhetoric really puts him in that camp (as well hi, you know, past. The dude literally vacationed in the Soviet Union. If Trump vacationed in Nazi Germany people would be screaming, and rightfully so).

Classical. Hey don't just look at that giant heaping land fill worth of junk and trash that guy left.

That guy over their dropped his water bottle.on the floor.

[oops_ur_dead]

It's because he's a pedophile lmao.

[oops_ur_dead]

I myself didnt like him that much until I started actively following his twitter account (as well as news on him). He actually seems like a remarkably normal person.

Wait are you saying that Trump seemed like a normal person after you started following his Twitter? If so, then fuck kinda normal people do you talk to.

[Ganelon]

Yeh he’s not bad, he’s just really verbally offensive and is a loudmouth.

Edit: Hes also impulsive (or at least presents himself as such. To some extent that may be a constructed persona, although I dont buy that he isn’t an impulsive person).

[SuperJack]

Meh I’m just kidding. Go on
Im gonna stay out of political threads bc tbh politics is kinda cringe ngl

[rumox]

"No men are anywhere, and I’m allowed to go in, because I’m the owner of the pageant and therefore I’m inspecting it…. ‘Is everyone OK’? You know, they’re standing there with no clothes. ‘Is everybody OK?’ And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.”

At best it's highly inappropriate, but there is fair a logical path where someone might think he is a pedophile just based off this comment alone tbh. Then there is the Epstein/Maxwell connection on top of that. I'm all for due process but it looks pretty questionable

[rumox]

I find it hilarious you are saying "he is just impulsive" as some sort of excuse when the topic is about him being a pedophile

[oops_ur_dead]

He also very much alluded to knowing Epstein rapes children by saying that he likes his women "on the young side".

There was also at least one victim that reported being recruited at Trump's Mar a Lago resort where Epstein visited many times.

So yeah Trump is definitely complicit in this pedo shit if not directly involved. How sad. When will Trump supporters account for backing a pedophile?

[Ganelon]

I don’t really think so. Women on beauty pageants tend to be extremely attractive, and in many cases look more mature than they really are. When he starts going after prepubescent children, let me know. We can argue whether that’s an appropriate thing to say (and it isn’t), but I don’t see it as pointing to pedophilia.

He has however said things that have made me wonder. Didn’t he say he would date his daughter or something? I’m sure he meant something completely different than what he actually said, but that comment looks really creepy lol lolololol

[Ganelon]

He also very much alluded to knowing Epstein rapes children by saying that he likes his women "on the young side".

There was also at least one victim that reported being recruited at Trump's Mar a Lago resort where Epstein visited many times.

So yeah Trump is definitely complicit in this pedo shit if not directly involved. How sad. When will Trump supporters account for backing a pedophile?

Tbh I’ve heard people also connecting British royalty to Epstein. I’m not sure how much I’m going to trust anything about that case lol.

[rumox]

Dude I know a kid is a kid regardless of what they look like...

[Ganelon]

Dude I know a kid is a kid regardless of what they look like...

Yeah well your penis probably doesn’t. If a 15 year old kid looks 25, they ARE going to attract men’s attention. People (who know they are 15) usually stay away from them, though.

[Ganelon]

In any event, I’d see this as far worse if he started oggling people who looked like children.

[rumox]

Uh please don't say I am attracted to kids thanks?

[oops_ur_dead]

Tbh I’ve heard people also connecting British royalty to Epstein. I’m not sure how much I’m going to trust anything about that case lol.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...effrey-epstein

Yes.

[oops_ur_dead]

I don’t really think so. Women on beauty pageants tend to be extremely attractive, and in many cases look more mature than they really are. When he starts going after prepubescent children, let me know. We can argue whether that’s an appropriate thing to say (and it isn’t), but I don’t see it as pointing to pedophilia.

Wait dude what.

He brags about being able to look at underage girls in a dressing room and you're saying that isn't pedo as fuck?

On top of the other evidence?

[oops_ur_dead]

It would be much less sad if Trump supporters just came clean and said that they support a pedophile because they actually don't give a shit. Everyone already knows it...

[SuperJack]

I mean. I don't get why people are attempting to use logic and rationality to get people who support trump to understand the truth.

Wait I do.
Both sides like the feeling that they are more intelligent than the other side and like to jerk off who is the more intelligent.

[Ganelon]

Dude, even from a technical standpoint attraction to people who are at least 15 isn’t pedophilia (for a good reason). And even more so if they look older than they are. You think pedophiles ask people for their ID to get their age before they start going after them? No, they look at their outward appearance.

[Ganelon]

I mean. I don't get why people are attempting to use logic and rationality to get people who support trump to understand the truth.

Wait I do.
Both sides like the feeling that they are more intelligent than the other side and like to jerk off who is the more intelligent.

yeah this is what I don’t like about politics. it allows you to feel superior just because you ‘support the right candidate’. It’s one of the reasons why I stay away from political BS as much as I can in real life. Hell, I don’t even vote; I would feel guilty for voting seeing as I’m only a resident, lol.

[SuperJack]

I don’t really think so. Women on beauty pageants tend to be extremely attractive, and in many cases look more mature than they really are. When he starts going after prepubescent children, let me know. We can argue whether that’s an appropriate thing to say (and it isn’t), but I don’t see it as pointing to pedophilia.

He has however said things that have made me wonder. Didn’t he say he would date his daughter or something? I’m sure he meant something completely different than what he actually said, but that comment looks really creepy lol lolololol

Wow. Wtf. Did you just defend pedophillia?

[Ganelon]

... no
i literally just said clarified what pedophilia is.
Example. My friend’s girlfriend (19) was approached by a photographer to become a model and erm... he was awfully creepy about it. Do I think he’s a pedophile? No, pedophilia is about looks. He’s just an old creep.

[oops_ur_dead]

Dude, even from a technical standpoint attraction to people who are at least 15 isn’t pedophilia (for a good reason). And even more so if they look older than they are. You think pedophiles ask people for their ID to get their age before they start going after them? No, they look at their outward appearance.

Ah yes, the second stage of Trump defence. I'm going to predicate your next two arguments for you:

"Maybe Trump is a pedophile, but it doesn't affect how he governs so it doesn't matter politically"

Then:

"Yes Trump may be a pedophile, but so was Bill Clinton, and Joe Biden has said some weird things as well."

[Ganelon]

If you want to look at the sexual things Donald Trump has done, there’s other things that are actually somewhat bad and also true. Example. He ONLY dates models. Now, what does that say about his opinion on women?

[Ganelon]

Ah yes, the second stage of Trump defence. I'm going to predicate your next two arguments for you:

"Maybe Trump is a pedophile, but it doesn't affect how he governs so it doesn't matter politically"

Then:

"Yes Trump may be a pedophile, but so was Bill Clinton, and Joe Biden has said some weird things as well."

I knew you were going to go off on a literally irrelevant tangent lmao. I never said anything about Bill Clinton or Joe Biden.

[Ganelon]

And note that I seriously don’t think a pedophile should be president. If I can’t trust a man around children, I definitely can’t trust him to run a country, it’s just like how our idiotic prime minister lied about visiting his mother during COVID (on her deathbed). If he was actually as much of a cunt as to not visit his mum due to his ideology, I wouldn’t trust him to be PM. Luckily he just fucked up and lied. Which is something I can forgive him for.

[SuperJack]

... no
i literally just said clarified what pedophilia is.
Example. My friend’s girlfriend (19) was approached by a photographer to become a model and erm... he was awfully creepy about it. Do I think he’s a pedophile? No, pedophilia is about looks. He’s just an old creep.

To trump goes into a padgent. Full well knowing the age group. And it's ok to walk in and check out naked bodies.
Because. Aslong as they look mature enough it's ok?

No. That's wrong. And there is no way to defend that.

[rumox]

Trump knew he was in a room full of kids and still said what he said lol. Would it make you feel better if people called him a hebephile instead? Splitting hairs dude

[Ganelon]

I mean. I guess that’s a fair point hat he did know the age group.

[rumox]

Literally talking an age gap of 2-6 years (pedophile -> hebephile) from the POV of a... 50+(?) year old man?

[Ganelon]

In any event, Trump clearly has a thing for women who are physically attractive. They’re, you know, generally not physically attractive when they’re 13. I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t go after a 13 year old.
And uh, while I don’t think doing what he did is appropriate, I don’t think it makes him a pedophile. It could make him a sexual predator and all sorts of various things, but not a pedophile imo.

[Ganelon]

Literally talking an age gap of 2-6 years (pedophile -> hebephile) from the POV of a... 50+(?) year old man?

Yeah, except puberty tends to happen in that gap you just mentioned. So the difference between a 13 year old and a 16 year old is significantly larger than the difference between a 30 year old and a 50 year old, forminstance.

[Ganelon]

Note that I don’t think pedophilia is okay at all and I think that pedophilia is VERY wrong. I just think pedophilia, being about sexual attraction, is mostly about physical looks than age itself. For me, someone who dates 30 year old women that look like children is every bit as much of a pedophile as someone who goes after 12 year olds.

[rumox]

How old are you?