S-FM 304: Instant Mafia

[naz]

instant mafia!

players:
1. @Marshmallow Marshall
2. @bakermir
3. @Auwt
4. @Ganelon
5. @Varcron
6. @Zedus
7. @Stealthbomber16
8. @secondpassing





~game will start in~

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gl hf

remember do not attack players but the slot, let's see some good sportsmanship & some honed posting

[naz]

game is open im walking my dog day ends

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[bakermir]

@naz

I love the burgers but I can't find them in "smiley" tab when posting.

How to do that magic?

[Ganelon]

@naz

I love the burgers but I can't find them in "smiley" tab when posting.

How to do that magic?

Heightened sense of self and egocentrism. Indicative of shy scum
Use of emotionally loaded words to attempt to appeal to emotion in the event of a lynch

[Auwt]

Heightened sense of self and egocentrism. Indicative of shy scum
Use of emotionally loaded words to attempt to appeal to emotion in the event of a lynch

Lol thats getting deeeeeeeep.

[Ganelon]

Lol thats getting deeeeeeeep.

lol yeah I was trolling. I just wanted to see how far you can go scumpainting normal posts

[bakermir]

Heightened sense of self and egocentrism. Indicative of shy scum
Use of emotionally loaded words to attempt to appeal to emotion in the event of a lynch

What colour are your eyes? Green?

[Stealthbomber16]

I claim godfather

[Stealthbomber16]

bakermir is my scum partner and he pinged me when the day was open so I could come in and bus him.

[bakermir]

I claim godfather

bakermir is my scum partner and he pinged me when the day was open so I could come in and bus him.

I am ready to follow your vote boss.

[bakermir]

Oh and hey all

I had to replace Martin but I hope I will do good. I wish he was here too.


Hoping to win this time and I have learned a bit from last game


This will be strange though. We only have 3 days to do the right lynching and the game ends after that. It is a bit intimidating as it stands because this will be my first play in this setup.

[Varcron]

Oh and hey all

I had to replace Martin but I hope I will do good. I wish he was here too.


Hoping to win this time and I have learned a bit from last game


This will be strange though. We only have 3 days to do the right lynching and the game ends after that. It is a bit intimidating as it stands because this will be my first play in this setup.

This will feel kind of like DW's Insanity D1 without the goofiness of not knowing our roles.

[Zedus]

This will feel kind of like DW's Insanity D1 without the goofiness of not knowing our roles.

You know my role, I claimed it. Citizen.

[Stealthbomber16]

game is slow when all the europeans are asleep.. this is a good indicator of how EoD will go, I guess. that might not be a bad thing?

my opinion is that once we get everyone in here we will want to start doing a rolecall- we can section people off into pairings or trios and it will be easier to find the mafias because they will be put into smaller lynch groups. effectively, we want to border off the mafia. I am interested in other opinions though, except on the rolecall portion because I think that is mandatory with this setup.

I'll start by claiming that I am not citizen but I don't want to reveal my role just yet, I want to see what other claims we get first.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

game is slow when all the europeans are asleep.. this is a good indicator of how EoD will go, I guess. that might not be a bad thing?

my opinion is that once we get everyone in here we will want to start doing a rolecall- we can section people off into pairings or trios and it will be easier to find the mafias because they will be put into smaller lynch groups. effectively, we want to border off the mafia. I am interested in other opinions though, except on the rolecall portion because I think that is mandatory with this setup.

I'll start by claiming that I am not citizen but I don't want to reveal my role just yet, I want to see what other claims we get first.

Agreed. I hard claim solo mason.

(not true)

[Varcron]

Agreed. I hard claim solo mason.

(not true)

Solo mason? Interesting setup choice from the host. I'd bet money that someone will CC that soon.

[Stealthbomber16]

game is slow when all the europeans are asleep.. this is a good indicator of how EoD will go, I guess. that might not be a bad thing?

my opinion is that once we get everyone in here we will want to start doing a rolecall- we can section people off into pairings or trios and it will be easier to find the mafias because they will be put into smaller lynch groups. effectively, we want to border off the mafia. I am interested in other opinions though, except on the rolecall portion because I think that is mandatory with this setup.

I'll start by claiming that I am not citizen but I don't want to reveal my role just yet, I want to see what other claims we get first.

@Zedus
Post #8. Your first post was AFTER THIS ONE.

You have no fucking right to be calling people blind after making this egregious mistake.

[Zedus]

You have no fucking right to be calling people blind after making this egregious mistake.

This wasn't a mistake.

[Stealthbomber16]

This wasn't a mistake.

Oh I see you're just gonna scumpaint people instead

-vote Zedus

[Stealthbomber16]

This wasn't a mistake.

Seriously I cannot put into words how scummy this post is

He is literally admitting to purposefully omitting certain posts from his analysis. That is the definition of scumpainting.

[Ganelon]

-vote Marshmallow Marshall

statistically speaking, SCUM

[Marshmallow Marshall]

-vote Marshmallow Marshall

statistically speaking, SCUM

Statistically speaking, you must be launched into the fucking sun.

-vote Ganelon

[Varcron]

GOOOOFYYYYYY

-vote bakermir

[Ganelon]

Huh?

[Varcron]

Huh?

Bakermir is acting interesting, so scum of course

[Zedus]

Hello, everyone!
First, my role is citizen. You should know that and use that info.

I had to replace Martin but I hope I will do good. I wish he was here too.

No, thanks. You are better then the greatest missleader ever

I claim godfather

Nice strat. I used it in mod a lot. "Just tell the truth and they will never lynch you". Often works. But not this time.

-vote Stealthbomber16

[Varcron]

Hello, everyone!
First, my role is citizen. You should know that and use that info.


No, thanks. You are better then the greatest missleader ever



Nice strat. I used it in mod a lot. "Just tell the truth and they will never lynch you". Often works. But not this time.

-vote Stealthbomber16

Please tell me this isn't another of those pushes lmao.

I see where you're coming from though.

[Stealthbomber16]

Hello, everyone!
First, my role is citizen. You should know that and use that info.


No, thanks. You are better then the greatest missleader ever



Nice strat. I used it in mod a lot. "Just tell the truth and they will never lynch you". Often works. But not this time.

-vote Stealthbomber16

This vote is even more applicable for me because I have done exactly this in previous games that I have won!

Confirmed scumbomber!

[Varcron]

This vote is even more applicable for me because I have done exactly this in previous games that I have won!

Confirmed scumbomber!

Agreed, but that sounds like an attempted goofy move by you.

[Ganelon]

This vote is even more applicable for me because I have done exactly this in previous games that I have won!

Confirmed scumbomber!

This is actually true btw, stealth did this last time this setup was played. He was town

[Stealthbomber16]

This is actually true btw, stealth did this last time this setup was played. He was town

I think I’ve played this 3 times? I also think I lost the other 2 times.

I’m about to break a spree. We are gonna win this one for the town boys.

This setup is very easy if we take a proper mechanical approach to it, theoretically. We do a proper role claim and then start grouping people together. The setup already pairs people together by nature- sheriff + citizen, mafia + mafia, Mason + nobody else because it’s totally a solo mason for the memes. Naz would do it no other way.

[Auwt]

This vote is even more applicable for me because I have done exactly this in previous games that I have won!

Confirmed scumbomber!

The question would be, would you be ready to do the exact same thing twice in a row ?
I wouldnt bet on that.

[Stealthbomber16]

The question would be, would you be ready to do the exact same thing twice in a row ?
I wouldnt bet on that.

Yes. I would.

I’m not, but I would. Anyone who has played with me for multiple games would tell you I would.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Hello, everyone!
First, my role is citizen. You should know that and use that info.


No, thanks. You are better then the greatest missleader ever



Nice strat. I used it in mod a lot. "Just tell the truth and they will never lynch you". Often works. But not this time.

-vote Stealthbomber16

Hmmm.... That's interesting. I think you may be over-reading into a shitpost holding an insane amount of WIFOM.

[Zedus]

Hmmm.... That's interesting. I think you may be over-reading into a shitpost holding an insane amount of WIFOM.

Are you protecting GF claim for some reason? Explain now. But not this shit like "he claimed GF so he is not GF"

[Varcron]

Are you protecting GF claim for some reason? Explain now. But not this shit like "he claimed GF so he is not GF"

Personally I agree that you may be over reading him this early into the game, but I'll gladly look from all points of view until proven unreliable.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Solo mason? Interesting setup choice from the host. I'd bet money that someone will CC that soon.

It's a reference to one of the iterations of this setup, in which the host actually put a solo mason in the game lol.

Are you protecting GF claim for some reason? Explain now. But not this shit like "he claimed GF so he is not GF"

But not this shit like "he claimed GF so he's actually GF" either, hm? It's a shitpost. And if it's not 100 % a shitpost, it's WIFOM + reaction testing. I'm not protecting nor damning him for it.

[Varcron]

It's a reference to one of the iterations of this setup, in which the host actually put a solo mason in the game lol.


But not this shit like "he claimed GF so he's actually GF" either, hm? It's a shitpost. And if it's not 100 % a shitpost, it's WIFOM + reaction testing. I'm not protecting nor damning him for it.

Ohhhhhhh I get it, okay.

I think this game will be decided by scum trying to pocket as many people as possible or get town locked by as many people as possible.

[Stealthbomber16]

Are you protecting GF claim for some reason? Explain now. But not this shit like "he claimed GF so he is not GF"

If you believe I am genuinely The Godfather I invite you to reread the setup.

I know I had to do it because I forgot this was a 1 day setup when I signed up for it.

[Varcron]

Hi Mike, Hi Zedus

[Ganelon]

stealth doing this doesn’t raise any alarm bells atm. I doubt it’s anything other than a shitpost, although bear in mind that he used to claim his real role as scum quite often back in the day. not lynching over this yet but I’ll keep an eye out

[Ganelon]

I believe we discussed a roleclaim last time we played this setup, and that we ended up losing because we’d made the wrong decision surrounding claims.
personally:
a) mayor should hold out on their reveal for as long as possible
b) I would very closely look at people claiming citizen, as claiming citizen can out the mayor
c) sheriff should reveal whenever they feel like it. the issue is that an early sheriff reveal puts mayor at risk of being outed

[Ganelon]

I believe we discussed a roleclaim last time we played this setup, and that we ended up losing because we’d made the wrong decision surrounding claims.
personally:
a) mayor should hold out on their reveal for as long as possible
b) I would very closely look at people claiming citizen, as claiming citizen can out the mayor
c) sheriff should reveal whenever they feel like it. the issue is that an early sheriff reveal puts mayor at risk of being outed

clarification: I do not remember if we claimed early or late in the game

[Marshmallow Marshall]

I believe we discussed a roleclaim last time we played this setup, and that we ended up losing because we’d made the wrong decision surrounding claims.
personally:
a) mayor should hold out on their reveal for as long as possible
b) I would very closely look at people claiming citizen, as claiming citizen can out the mayor
c) sheriff should reveal whenever they feel like it. the issue is that an early sheriff reveal puts mayor at risk of being outed

I would rather say that claiming citizen right away will give scum an easy sheriff claim... and that it has no link whatsoever with the Mayor? Am I dumb, or are you, uhh, mistaken?

Power roles should reveal first (not mayor though), and then be followed by citizens.


And yes, no quick hammer lmao, we shouldn't have to say this but it happened last time, iirc...

[Ganelon]

I would rather say that claiming citizen right away will give scum an easy sheriff claim... and that it has no link whatsoever with the Mayor? Am I dumb, or are you, uhh, mistaken?

Power roles should reveal first (not mayor though), and then be followed by citizens.


And yes, no quick hammer lmao, we shouldn't have to say this but it happened last time, iirc...

The issue with that is that it gives us ZERO information about who the scum is. The sanest course of action is to claim citizen in that scenario, but who is to say people who play mafia are sane? also, letting TPRs confirm themselves and lead the town, especially when these TPRs are solid town players, almost invariably results in a scum loss. so if scum feel threatened by the TPRs - they will 100% CC

I would honestly pull off a big balls play and claim Sheriff on some player I’ve figured out to be citizen. gives lots of townpoomts precisely because it’s ballsy as fuck

[Ganelon]

this goes without saying but if you guys hammer too early I’m gonna be mad.

[Ganelon]

tbh last time this setup was played we didn’t claim roles and we lost, but I believe that was primarily due to an early hammer.

In my view, we should not claim (or if you’re a confirmable role like Mason, Mayor or Sheriff), consider claiming citizen to encourage a scum sheriff claim on your ass
Thats exactly why I think mayor and sheriff shouldn’t reveal. If scum have big balls and like risky plays, or if they’re forced to/decide to claim Sheriff, they can easily be countered

its insurance

[Ganelon]

I see an early roleclaim as being beneficial by giving people something to talk about, and forcing scum to have a stake in the game discussion - also forcing them to claim either TPR or citizen
the ONLY difference between this setup and others when it comes to rolecounting mass claims is that we only have one shot. so scum may well win even if they claim citizen as long as they act townie

[Ganelon]

solo mason is a meme but I believe that last time it was a statistical accident
anyway, late claiming is a valid strategy but it’s inly the optimal thing to do in some specific scenarios. early claiming is less powerful but useful in the general case

[Ganelon]

also stealth does ‘not citizen’ mean neutral by any chance 🤔