I see the Varcron's claim in the same way as secondpassing's one. Both claimed Sheriff.
Both came and just said it like lol,
Both bakermir and I werent confirmed before.
Both Sheriff claim are either BIG gambler, but apparently both of them got correct.
Apparently in the Stealth vs Zedus vs Ganelon its really hard to guess a team.
Considering votes, as for now and as I explained in my pairing post, some mins ago, Marshmallow is the common factor of all 'non-confirmed townie'.
Why do I have 6 pings from Zedus
And why is he saying I have "no game presence" for going to sleep like a normal person
And why is he putting 5 players in the scum pool
AAAAAAAAAAAA
This is dandy, you have three town reads and 5 scumreads.
My read list:
Town: Me, Auwt, MM, SB16
The reason I place both SB16 and MM as town is because based on what I have seen and how they play there is nothing signalling "LOL SCUM LYNCH HUEHUEHUE"
My null reads: Bakermir, Zedus, Ganelon, SP
The reason I null read Zedus is because I think he has townie intentions, however seems to be barking up multiple wrong trees which I don't really like. Ganelon has made minimal things to signal town or scum in my eyes, and I am just unsure about the two sheriff thing (as much as I want it to be true)
This read list will develop as the day progresses, I'm not really worried about it since we still have over 48 hours to make a decision.
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Lie. I don't like MM, he have no game presence and now 7 ppl just waiting for him. I don't like Ganelon for this randoming (now it's bakermir, great...), because it's bad both for evil team (if he is evil, he just pointing at himself like "look at me, look, I doing shit, attention please!") and for town (if he is town, this unreasonable votes will not help). I cannot "like more" someone, if I dislike both.
But this is not about like or not. It's about scum or not. They both are in my scum list. But, once more, according to mechanics there is 2 mafia here. MM and Ganelon can be mafia pair, also Ganelon and SB can be (and also you and Varcron). Choosing between MM and SB is gambling(first one can be just afk and we lynch him for that, second one just can be frustrating with solo mason role) so I prefer to stay on Ganelon.
But I see no strong town plays from you, Auwt. You are strong town player, but now you still not posted your trust-list/scum list. This makes your suspicious for me. Where is it?
I haven’t made minimal things lmao
im making reads, just because I’m not pointing them out in the open doesnr mean I haven’t done shit
you can see this plainly if you pay attentjon
Auwt isn't as experienced and as such I do not expect him to make massive town plays like some other people here that can smell shit from a long range (looks over at MM, SB, and Ganelon)
You don't like Ganelon for his randoming yet haven't even mentioned my early vote on Bakermir lol.
-unvote
Not you, everyone have. I posting claimlist... Well, everyone can do this, but I already did, why not.
so, finally we have:
1. @Marshmallow Marshall - Citizen claim
2. @bakermir - Citizen claim (confirmation - info from #8 )
3. @Auwt - Citizen claim (confirmation - info from #5)
4. @Ganelon - Citizen claim
5. @Varcron - Sheriff claim
6. @Zedus - Citizen claim
7. @Stealthbomber16 - Mason claim
8. @secondpassing - Sheriff claim
By the way, to you all saying that "oooo stealth is scum because he shitposted and used wifom ooooooooooooo", which seems to be especially Zedus, stop it lol. That's how he plays. And I actually think he's rather towny atm, because he was still posting useful and correct objections and moving town forward. That being said, I'm not putting too much weight on this because it's far from impossible that he's consistently suggesting correct mechanical play, once again.
Not sure Zedus would be THAT zealous and intolerant towards people who went to sleep if he were scum. Some town points for him. That being said, I don't agree with his super fast-paced attacks. Like, we're not even 24 hours in and Auwt would have been supposed to post a reads list? Why him and not others? Why is it scummy to not do it that early?
I waited for mayor reveal to explain my conclusions and follow mayor. But we have no mayor. Also I explained before (look at text under the spoiler) that we playing mafia this way in Russia. It's not "god synrome", it's just active playstyle and it works. I don't know why are you perceive it this way. It's some part of your mentality, nothing more.
Spoiler : Also... :
Ya know im the kind of person 'you ask you get'
Read list :
Varcron : Obvious reason. Town-locked.
bakermir and secondpassing : Bakermir made really nice post and we thought alike a lot during early plays. Considering SP, revealed early as Sheriff (gambled? I dont think so) and confirmed Bakermir who didnt claim anything at the time. I'm not seeing this duos being the two scums.
And as I said
So bakermir and SP are at least on the same side if we exclude (3). I dont see them being double scum, with that in mind, they are most likely Town.
Stealthbomber16 : Decisive posting, his post makes a lot of sense (and im quoting him a lot because its really interesting), but cannot really be proven, might still fake Mason with another one claiming something else. I'm still not fully trusting him.
Zedus : Very implicated in the game, maybe a bit too much, some post really makes sense, some are still a bit weird. Focus on little thing (early lol vote and claim from SB, MM, Ganelon...). Im mitigated on this case.
Ganelon : Small posts without much infos, wasnt really willing to reveal roles. Somehow this changed after Varcron's claim. Weird.
Marshmallow Marshall : In most of my possible pairing list (actually on all the pairing I did), claiming Citizen. As SB16 recommend, we should watch for citizens claim
You're pulling loose strings based off of less than 24 hrs worth of posts. I'm willing to bet that if we lynched over half of your scumreads they would be town and as such will not continue to listen to them until they are better developed.
I agree with basically everything MM has said so far (even though he could be pocketting me reeeeee) and as such rightfully is in a solid town position in my eyes with Auwt, you, me, and SB16 now.
Maybe that man, Frog, is russian? Or played with russian community? Or read about russian agressive mafia playstyle? Or just came to these playstyle himself (most likely)?
Anyway, let's stop offtopic.
I explained all my conclusions.
Keep an eye on Auwt+Varcron. If one of them voted someone, and another one not, keep in mind +1 insta vote possible.
I going to sleep, so for now I have to
-unvote
But my vote still on Ganelon for now. We have 2 days to think about it.
ok, so you're basically ignoring what I said
Yes, I know, there is neither God, nor savior, nor tribune... The class war must begin @Ganelon
Active playstyle is good. "You disagree with me? SCUM" is called OMGUS ("Oh My God, U Suck") and is bad for town's activity (since people can't say much because you monopolize discussion about them being scum for disagreeing with you) and bad for your reads (since it's not accurate). You're doing both of those things atm. I'm asking you to stop doing the latter while keeping the former.
I will be off for several hours.
Feel free to mention me if you need something.
imo it’s either bakermir (and obviously secondpassing) or Mm and someone else
stealth made some fake posts that were obviously lies on his part such as when he said Zedus was scummy as hell for (essentially) selective reading
Not sure I agree with your Bakermir read, and not sure I agree to either exlucde (3) or (4), but ok.
I think you and Varcron are a town pair.
100 % agreed on Stealth.
Agreed on Zedus (although I think he's town, in a very similar way Lois (Frog) was town (and wrong) last game).
Ganelon didn't want citizens to claim to avoid giving claim room for scum "sheriffs". Once one citizen claimed (Varcron), it wasn't so important anymore. I'd say that makes sense and isn't weird at all? Am I missing something?
Boooo
Okay how about a Zedus-Stealrh scum team? 🥴
We currently have to consider the validity of whether or not two sheriffs could exist in this setup in addition to a solo mason.
I’m more inclined to lynch among the 3 remaining citizens currently but I want other opinions right now.
Umm... why is Secondpassing that weird? A ton of host meta, some weird shitposting, no capital letters (which is rare for SP), suggestion to "lynch TPRs" that makes no sense in a one day setup lol... what is that?
The more I look at this post the more I dislike it.
You put way more stuff in here than is actually credible, the no capital letters in particular I’m like “huh?” That’s not alignment indicative in any way shape or form and I’m really confused as to why you pointed it out. It reminds me of how PTB mislynched me one time by just putting as much bullshit on the wall as possible and watching some of it stick.