Updated claim list:
1. @Marshmallow Marshall - like No claim. Solo mason claim with (not true) mark doesn't counts?
2. @bakermir - Citizen claim
3. @Auwt - No claim
4. @Ganelon - No claim
5. @Varcron - No claim
6. @Zedus - Citizen claim
7. @Stealthbomber16 - Some TPR claim.
8. @secondpassing - Sheriff claim, also confirmed #2
Well, now focus on Ganelon, the Random Voter.
He did nothing useful from the game start, voted Marshmallow with no reason, after voted me with no reason. Refusing to call out role. Looks like he is seeking for our attention.
-vote Ganelon
Now waiting for his defence
No. I’m not claiming. You’ll find out my role later, I shall claim at some point. But not now.
Nice, now 2 ppl in my scumlist voting on me, I got it. And it's great. Because, as I said, "readings" is shit, but actions is not.
One of them is most likely scum, maybe both.
Good plan for townies:
If there will be 2 following votes on me, ignore them both and focus on 3rd and 4th voter.
If you are town, don't even try to vote me. If #4 and #7 just typical town bonobovoters (still possible), following them will be insta-losing for town, because mafia will just end the game after.
Better to add pressure on Varcron, the Random Voter (but not 3 votes, please!) and keep and eye on 7, he is still doing only shit for town.
If one of them reveals as mayor, switch for neuts in my susp list.
Well, also you can just bonobovote me for no reason and lose the game again Up to you.
I do not encourage Citizens claim before being done with Sheriffs claim.
Potential Sheriff
Ganelon clearly said, wont reveal his role.
Marshmallow Marshall hasnt claimed yet, no info considering willingness
Varcron hasnt claimed yet, no info considering willingness
Stealthbomber16 hasnt claimed yet, confirmed TPR
We are not done at all considering potential Sheriff.
If you hurry for Citizen/other role claim, this will result in a very easy Sheriff claim on the scum side.
The best game plan I can see so far, is removing roles 1 by 1.
In this order :
-Sheriff
-Mayor
-Citizen
Mayor and Citizen could be at the same time. BUT Sheriff has to be first no matter what, and as long as there is a possible Sheriff, going forward is a bad idea.
Already explained. I removed vote from you to another, more suspicious random voter. After his explanations I will continue with Marshmallow, and neuts after.
But yes, you are still in scum list, I see no any reason to remove you. Your "I am TPR" is just weak defence, but well, this is some info, so we need to get someone else for now.
Finding Sheriff first, so that we can easily find if someone is lying.
Lets check how a Sheriff claim can lead to :
2 players, Sheriff and X :
1) Sheriff is a real Sheriff, and X is real Citizen
2) Sheriff is a fake Sheriff, and X tell Sheriff is wrong
3) fake Sheriff got extremely lucky, and X is real Citizen
4) Sheriff is fake Sheriff, and cover scum team mate X as a Citizen.
1 and 2 are good for town.
3 is pure luck. If scum are ready to blindly claim someone is Citizen, well they are likely to throw.
4 is making scum side with each other
When we will be done with the Sheriff. We will have strong duos potential.
Btw this will be good idea to claim sheriff (if you are one), but NOT to call your checked citizen for some time. So you will fill sheriff slot for town, but you will still be able to use your known info later.
If we decide to claim something else right now, for instance Citizens,
This could lead to scum being able to do
5- Fake Sheriff says X is real Citizen
And not claiming anything (or at least denying being Sheriff) will just block the game from my perspective.
Do as you want guys.
What I'm trying to do with all of this is :
Make duos that are same sided.
What I can tell you right now: SP and bakermir are on the same side.
The 3rd option (namely : Luck) could still be a thing, but who is gonna take that risk? Noone.
By making trustful duos you can at least see, who you will be never voting and so others players can check interaction between the different duos, to see if they are both scum/both town.
You still claimed nothing. "I am tpr" is better then "I am godfather" that's why I removed vote from you to the randomer. That's all.
You still can be mafia, who tryed that shittalking strat. Sure you have to claim something. But this will not confirm you. Something like mayor revealing will. Or sheriff+citizen pair will be a bit (but if your "citizen" is Ganelon, well we got you both, gg ez). Do more for town, and maybe I will remove you from my list. For example, push the randomer, not me.
Remember this shit?
Sure, as good and strong townie, I will start to push every shittalker until there will be no shittalking at all and everyone will focus on game and winning for town. Because shittalking like your "I am gf" or this Ganelon's random votes will truly NEVER help town.
Sorry, I edited. Not Varcron, Ganelon...
zedus you didnt tell me what ship you fly
why
are you afraid of discussion
@bakermir You said you have some questions for me, I will go offline soon, can you ask it now so I can answer before I go?
Okay, so secondpassing claims that he is sheriff with Bakermir as town
I hardclaim sheriff (was going to last night but fell asleep) and confirm that Auwt is town.
This could go two ways 1. All 4 of us are town and as such have 4 confirmed townies or 2. He's bullshitting protecting his scummate.
so two sheriff claims?
nice
I claim not sheriff