S-FM 302: Magellan (15p)

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

Now I understand why host said this game would only last 48 hours LOL

[S-FM Jan Korvin]

You are right, I got mixed up, it jumps to 2/3. It all hinges on the door opened always being empty before being presented the final two doors.

Still scum though. What did you aim to get out of this claim?

Welp, I have to use a new identifier. Still, admitting you are right doesn't help your situation. I'm coroner, and you are going to claim coroner as well lol.

[S-FM Vladislow Kennt]

That's weird and not how I interpreted the role card.

All I'm going to say is I had a lot of questions about my rolecard that needed verified.

We need the host to publicly clarify.

Jan is a liar. You have to submit the decision to go public with the autopsy decision.

I didn't want to waste it since I figured this game would take forever and was sure that if push came to shove I would be believed when listing my findings.

I never in a million years planned for a coroner claim, to come before mine no less. Balls to the walls, I'll give Jan that.

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

Unfortunately the choice MUST BE MADE when autopsying the corpse whether or not to reveal.

Jan clearly doesn't know that.

If this were true, we'd need it confirmed by Ganelon.

Secondly, the text seems clear in pointing out that it can be used during the day:

Special: Twice per game, you may anonymously reveal your target's faction to the entire town during the day.

It's similar to Mayor's:

Ability: Reveal yourself during the day, becoming confirmed town and gaining one additional vote.

Thirdly in this scenario, why wouldn't you (or Jan) reveal this info to town? That was our first lynch to make reads off of.

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

man and i wanted to play a game where we wouldn't solve the game by d2
i feel bad for mag

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

So question to each of our Coroners: You have a Day ability you can use right now to cause an Anonymous reveal of Jiles correct? Please confirm or correct us.

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

What's really happening here is a Disguiser is trying to fire off a mis-lynch before dabbing on us.

[S-FM Jan Korvin]

We still need Ganelon online.

It needs to be timed properly.

We need to 100% verify that Mafia has only one night kill.

Also, another take-away is that Vlad claims there's an Architect so if his claim is correct we know a town PR / scum PR.

He will NEVER be able to post anonymously THEREFORE he will be lynched eventually. He is a dead man whether you believe me or not.

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

I'll leave one last note actually

If Jan is lying and was outted due to the pressure, ya'll are fucking welcome lmao

[S-FM Jan Korvin]

So question to each of our Coroners: You have a Day ability you can use right now to cause an Anonymous reveal of Jiles correct? Please confirm or correct us.

I'll have to contact the Game Master to do the command. He told me I was unable to do this during the day or I'd have used it and not revealed.

[S-FM Vladislow Kennt]

So question to each of our Coroners: You have a Day ability you can use right now to cause an Anonymous reveal of Jiles correct? Please confirm or correct us.

I do not have a day ability. I have the option when exercising my night ability to reveal the autopsy subject.

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

What's really happening here is a Disguiser is trying to fire off a mis-lynch before dabbing on us.

thats what i was thinking but if they want to use their only kill the sooner the better imo

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

What's really happening here is a Disguiser is trying to fire off a mis-lynch before dabbing on us.

You're right. That's actually the only play that makes any sense here isn't it. But they're still counting on successfully getting a mislynch off which is not going to happen if we can use the Day ability thing.

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

I'll have to contact the Game Master to do the command. He told me I was unable to do this during the day or I'd have used it and not revealed.

I do not have a day ability. I have the option when exercising my night ability to reveal the autopsy subject.

Why didn't either of you?

Jiles was our first lynch. Why would you not let us do vote count analysis after our first fucking lynch?

[S-FM Vladislow Kennt]

I'll have to contact the Game Master to do the command. He told me I was unable to do this during the day or I'd have used it and not revealed.

Oh so now he is saying he can't do it. I've been consistent with my answer all along. I think he realizes I am right about the ability and doesn't want to look dumb now.

THIS GUY IS SCUM.

The real question is, what was he going for here. A disguser as someone suggested?

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

I do not have a day ability. I have the option when exercising my night ability to reveal the autopsy subject.

If that's true then that's really frustrating because the Role Card leads us to believe a totally different story.

[S-FM Edoua Maije]

Guys i'm going to be honest , i'm confused as fuck. I'm going to bed, we need to think this through, don't fucking lynch anybody till im back.
I think we can solve this game

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

imagine if we lynch the mafia's only nk source before they can even get it off
Lol!

[S-FM Vladislow Kennt]

Why didn't either of you?

Jiles was our first lynch. Why would you not let us do vote count analysis after our first fucking lynch?

All I'm going to say is I had a lot of questions about my rolecard that needed verified.

We need the host to publicly clarify.

Jan is a liar. You have to submit the decision to go public with the autopsy decision.

I didn't want to waste it since I figured this game would take forever and was sure that if push came to shove I would be believed when listing my findings.

I never in a million years planned for a coroner claim, to come before mine no less. Balls to the walls, I'll give Jan that.

I explained here. To the point. I thought this was going to be a long game, not a d2 shitshow.

[S-FM Jan Korvin]

Can anyone post again how to vote stimpy. I asked but nobody responded. [vote.][/vote] Is this right. Also where do I put his name, and do I include the S-FM? Stimpy is hoping for a quick lynch before we find out he's lying.

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

THIS GUY IS SCUM.

yes pointing fingers at eachother
honestly just skip the honorifics, we know you two are in a 1v1

[S-FM Fred Attlebish]

Well, he was claiming Citizen (Ensign) and nobody was contradicting him on the claim or even acknowledging his claim on it- not that I remember.

Why do I get a gut feeling of LHF here.

S-FM Jan Korvin (2 [L-6]):
S-FM Lembird Oshay, S-FM Vladislow Kennt

S-FM Lembird Oshay (1 [L-7]):
S-FM Gollert Twissell

S-FM Lois Francklyn (1 [L-7]):
S-FM Quinne

[S-FM Jan Korvin]

Oh so now he is saying he can't do it. I've been consistent with my answer all along. I think he realizes I am right about the ability and doesn't want to look dumb now.

THIS GUY IS SCUM.

The real question is, what was he going for here. A disguser as someone suggested?

I already asked as soon as I cked him last night. Also did you ever say what he was, did you ck him last night as coroner?

[S-FM Vladislow Kennt]

If that's true then that's really frustrating because the Role Card leads us to believe a totally different story.

You are telling me. Again, I had a lot of questions about how exactly I worked with a lot of different scenarios as well, considering the possibility of framers, disgusers, etc.

Coroner is one of THE most underrated roles in the mod, so I was a bit elated when I rolled it. But damn, I didn't expect to have to CC d2.

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

Can anyone post again how to vote stimpy. I asked but nobody responded. [vote.][/vote] Is this right. Also where do I put his name, and do I include the S-FM? Stimpy is hoping for a quick lynch before we find out he's lying.

yes that code is correct, just remove the period
you put the name in between the characters
yes you include the "s-fm"

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

Ok so now re-evaluating with the Disguiser plan in mind (the only plan that makes sense).

Jan was under no pressure to reveal and really looked like a popular Town read across the board. Gains essentially nothing by revealing other than credibility that wasn't required at that stage.

Kennt had made less of an impression, counter-claimed the Coroner claim which if Kennt is a disguiser is a really smart play.

So either Jan made a dumb play and is mafia or Kennt made a smart play and is mafia.

[S-FM Gollert Twissell]

Why we do not lynch either of the Coroner Claims.

Brookmond Agents (Mafia)
Strike Team Leader (Support Agent)
Hidden Support Agent
Hidden Killing Agent

Scum have 1 nightkill. Either a disguise or a jailing execute.
If we happen to correctly lynch a mafia, there is a chance that the amnesiac will copy the mafia role, effectively doubling scum's nightkills.

Scum have 1 or 2 roleblocks.
Even if we manage to successfully lynch the mafia, our coroner will be blocked from checking the dead bodies. Even if we manage to successfully lynch the mafia, they may just kill the coroner. We have no way of protecting our coroner.

The wisest choice is to leave both of the coroners alive and force the scumkill onto one of them.

Turncoat attacks during the day, we can also force his shot to be 50/50 by not lynching.

Spoiler : Threats to Coroner :

Role: Turncoat (Scumbag)
Description: You are a grandmaster Brookmond double agent, posing as a crew member of the Magellan. You've been away from Brookmond for so long that you've started wondering whether it's really worth it to continue your mission at this point. However, you cannot simply walk away; the Republic of Orcus knows who you are, and will stop at nothing to hunt you down and kill you. Therefore, whether you choose to support your old masters or not, you must eliminate the Orcan crew... thereby staging your own death. Alternatively, if you choose to support the Brookmond strike team, you will escape with them from the ship.
Special: At the end of D1, you must pick your exact wincon: either eliminate everyone else, or win with the Brookmonds.
Special: If you choose to side with the Brookmonds, you do not gain access to the Brookmond night chat.
Ability: If you choose to go solo, you will gain the ability to publicly reveal someone's role during the day, along with a one-use autovest, and a one-use day gun that you may use to kill someone during the day (without revealing their role).

Role: Clone (Amnesiac)
Description: You are a genetically-engineered human, stored aboard the Magellan as an organ repository. When the Brookmond infiltrated the ship, your pod was destroyed and you escaped. Faced with real life for the first time, you must decide who to support (if anyone) in this struggle for the ship.
Ability: Visit the morgue at night, and take up the role and faction of a target there.
Special: You cannot become a killing role (this includes the Turncoat if they’ve decided to side with themselves), the Captain, the First Mate, the Bosun, or the Coroner.
Special: Being a clone with an unusual biochemical makeup, you cannot be role blocked.
NOTE: And Gains all charges of dead player

Role: Strike Team Leader (Godfather)
Description: You are the leader of the Brookmond infiltrators, disguised as a low-ranking naval officer aboard the OEV Magellan. Your team was sent to infiltrate the vessel, as intelligence analysts suspect that it has been sent on a top secret exploration mission of unknown objectives.
Ability: None
Special: You share a night chat with the rest of the Brookmond agents.
Special: You are immune to detection, and appear to be an inactive Ensign to investigative Roles.
Special: At the start of the game, in addition to your primary role, you will receive a secondary role from the Support Agent class.
You will therefore receive the benefits of both, and will be able to carry out your secondary role's night action.
There can only be one Strike Team Leader, whether dead or alive, in the game.

Role: Biotech Expert (Consort) - Support
Description: You are an expert in biotechnology, specialising in biological warfare. At night, you may sneak into the ship's medlab and steal the raw materials necessary to concoct a temporarily-paralysis-inducing agent.
Ability: Concoct a paralysis solution and give it to a target of your choice.
Special: You may only do this once per game.


Role: Computer Specialist (Sleuth) - Support
Description: You are the Strike Team's expert in networking and server security, tasked with accessing the research server aboard the Magellan and find out more about the expedition. You've been issued a custom-built trojan virus targeted specifically at ship-board systems and terminals.
Ability: Read a player's last will.
Special: You may only do this once per game.


Role: Clone Commando (Disguiser) - Killing
Description: You are a vat-grown clone, bred for combat. Due to your unique biochemical makeup, you can change your outward physical appearance at will, allowing you to near-perfectly imitate another person's appearance.
Ability: Assassinate a player at night, disguising yourself as them.
Special: You share a night chat with the rest of the Brookmond agents.
Special: You can only do this once per game.


Role: Interrogator (Kidnapper) - Killing
Description: You are a master interrogator working for the Kingdom of Brookmond.
Ability: Select a player to jail during the day. You may anonymously speak to your target at night.
Special: Once per game, you may optionally execute your captive.
Special: You share a night chat with the rest of the Brookmond agents.
NOTE: Jailing is not a roleblock

[S-FM Fred Attlebish]

It's just very weird to me how you've gone from "Mulan + Dr Quacksworth are cool beans" and "I read jello man as a neutral" to "I believe Jello Man was a citizen" and agreeing with Bart's scum reads on Mulan and Dr Quacksworth so quickly, with no actual information given in the lynch?

Help me understand your thought process here. I like you. But I don't like this.

I like the thought in this I would watch for anyone using Marck thoughts as an excuses to start a lynch train.

[S-FM Jan Korvin]

-unvote

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

Ok so now re-evaluating with the Disguiser plan in mind (the only plan that makes sense).

Jan was under no pressure to reveal and really looked like a popular Town read across the board. Gains essentially nothing by revealing other than credibility that wasn't required at that stage.

Kennt had made less of an impression, counter-claimed the Coroner claim which if Kennt is a disguiser is a really smart play.

So either Jan made a dumb play and is mafia or Kennt made a smart play and is mafia.

what does scum have to gain from jan (assuming hes scum here) revealing as coroner? mafia has three brains behind all of it's actions, we can assume at least one of them is smart

[S-FM Jan Korvin]

-vote S-FM Vladislow Kennt

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

what does scum have to gain from jan (assuming hes scum here) revealing as coroner? mafia has three brains behind all of it's actions, we can assume at least one of them is smart

Exactly that's what I'm thinking too.

[S-FM Jan Korvin]

Guys he can never use his anon ability even if I'm disguised. He's a dead man if I'm not disuigsed and I will be lynched tomorrow if I fail to post anon tonight- then you'll know I've been disguised. Either way, he is out of this FM.

[S-FM Gollert Twissell]

DON'T VOTE, READ THE SETUP
scum has one nightkill and half a daykill.

[S-FM Fred Attlebish]

Coming to his defense very soon after considering me locked? Answer this, if we don't know what he is and there is a HIGH probability he will be cked tonight by Coroner and YOU KNOW I have always operated under strict logic up to now, why would I make such a blatantly bad assumption and continue to run with it? I mean, for all we know the coroner has already cked him, and could reveal publicly today what his role was? Does the coroner want to speak up?

NO Do not SPEAK!!!! BAD BAD PLAY Jan High scum points for this!!!!!

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

DON'T VOTE, READ THE SETUP
scum has one nightkill and half a daykill.

thank you mister scummy bird
i know how to read, yet i appreciate your contribution nonetheless

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

NO Do not SPEAK!!!! BAD BAD PLAY Jan High scum points for this!!!!!

its like watching a three legged dog trying to run to catch up

[S-FM Gollert Twissell]

thank you mister scummy bird
i know how to read, yet i appreciate your contribution nonetheless

you read and yet your vote is on jan, which means you haven't read the setup, nor used your brain to conclude that lynching between the counterclaims is a dumb idea

[S-FM Jan Korvin]

Ok so now re-evaluating with the Disguiser plan in mind (the only plan that makes sense).

Jan was under no pressure to reveal and really looked like a popular Town read across the board. Gains essentially nothing by revealing other than credibility that wasn't required at that stage.

Kennt had made less of an impression, counter-claimed the Coroner claim which if Kennt is a disguiser is a really smart play.

So either Jan made a dumb play and is mafia or Kennt made a smart play and is mafia.

unfortunately the latter is correct, but the best scenario is somehow I gain enough support to lynch him today. Post anon to prove Jiles was Ensign and that I was telling the truth all along. I'm posting tonight anon he was ensign. Does disguiser stop my action? He wipes my LW but does he stop my action? That scenario shouldn't matter, if Stimpy is telling the truth he'd still post anon, and he can't do that if i'm dead today. He's a dead man walking and spewing his lie.

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

you read and yet your vote is on jan, which means you haven't read the setup, nor used your brain to conclude that lynching between the counterclaims is a dumb idea

yes my l6 vote that's gaining so much traction

dont try to call me dumb when you unironically had faith in the interesting case

[S-FM Jan Korvin]

its like watching a three legged dog trying to run to catch up

So did mulan claim post-hoc that she knew I was inferring I was coroner, but she still gave me high scum points regardless. I'm confused.

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

you read and yet your vote is on jan, which means you haven't read the setup, nor used your brain to conclude that lynching between the counterclaims is a dumb idea

Can you just reveal as Amnesiac already?

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

unfortunately the latter is correct, but the best scenario is somehow I gain enough support to lynch him today. Post anon to prove Jiles was Ensign and that I was telling the truth all along. I'm posting tonight anon he was ensign. Does disguiser stop my action? He wipes my LW but does he stop my action? That scenario shouldn't matter, if Stimpy is telling the truth he'd still post anon, and he can't do that if i'm dead today. He's a dead man walking and spewing his lie.

you will do nothing until we come to a consensus about what to do with you two

[S-FM Jan Korvin]

NO Do not SPEAK!!!! BAD BAD PLAY Jan High scum points for this!!!!!

Oh you posted this not mulan. I was confused.

[S-FM Gollert Twissell]

yes my l6 vote that's gaining so much traction

dont try to call me dumb when you unironically had faith in the interesting case

I didn't call you dumb, I called your idea dumb. It's not a personal attack. People are continuing this lynch of coroners discussion without having considered the setup.
And I'll take whatever statistical probabilities there are.

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

Oh you posted this not mulan. I was confused.

i have zero idea how you could confuse me with mulan

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

So did mulan claim post-hoc that she knew I was inferring I was coroner, but she still gave me high scum points regardless. I'm confused.

When did this happen?

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

So now I'm thinking Jan might actually be the legit Coroner again

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

I didn't call you dumb, I called your idea dumb. It's not a personal attack. People are continuing this lynch of coroners discussion without having considered the setup.
And I'll take whatever statistical probabilities there are.

there's no statistical probability because it was a half baked case with a miniscule, potentially cherry picked sample size from our site from someone who claimed to be an offsite vet

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

What do these ring symbols on our profiles under FM Anonymous Account mean?