S-FM 302: Magellan (15p)

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

Don't take this the wrong way Jan but at this point it feels like you are either feigning ignorance or you havn't read the chat.
The bird joke has been beaten to death by now.

It's not a joke.

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

I'll put my vote here for now though.

-vote S-FM Edoua Maije

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

I'll put my vote here for now though.

-vote S-FM Edoua Maije

Aw man why back off of the 1v1?

[S-FM Jan Korvin]

Don't take this the wrong way Jan but at this point it feels like you are either feigning ignorance or you havn't read the chat.
The bird joke has been beaten to death by now.

Crap did I just get the nickname Jan? I was hoping for spaceface, but too late now.

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

Aw man why back off of the 1v1?

Just have a feeling.

[S-FM Edoua Maije]

Spoiler : spoiler :

Anyone with () beside their names are slots that may move in time, same with the null reads.

No, I will change the others as needed except the ones with () are more on the fence than the rest.

Sorry for poor explanation.

I'll keep that in mind for my future read sets.

I figured that's what happened, I'm surprised we haven't seen more than one goofy yet.

I thought you could deduce alignment based off of the word "Interesting"

I figured I forgot someone

For now I can place Wilbird as Town

I don't understand his reasoning either, so you're not alone.

Learning from him would be interesting.

Oh I get what you're confused about.

What you saw was my read list, not an actual alignment reveal. For example: I listed you as town because you have been asking good questions with some decent discussion involved.

Lists that involve reads are good to see where a persons head is at, as well as for others to question them.

Oh look at this it's the peanut gallery back at it again.



Classic exec sentence here.

The fact he's taken so long to answer tells me that he is trying to BS something.

Well, see y'all when more people post.

Am I Fat Worm? Or am I the Blob

I'm fine with fat worm

It ain't easy being green.

It's going to be the new goofy of FM

If he is town i'd go as far as to consider him a hindrance at this point, but I think my read is accurate.

Not even first half, 72 hr D1

-vote S-FM Jiles Carballo

Three players still haven't talked. Hm.

Mental progression. Buddying contrary to his scumreads. Indifference.

I've done you the favour of quoting all of Jiles' posts since he gave his readlist.
However to me it seems he never even interacted with you.

So i'm having a hard time understanding where he buddied with you, or understanding why you are voting him in the first place.

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

Just have a feeling.

That tonight's gonna be a good night?

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

Spoiler : spoiler :

I've done you the favour of quoting all of Jiles' posts since he gave his readlist.
However to me it seems he never even interacted with you.

So i'm having a hard time understanding where he buddied with you, or understanding why you are voting him in the first place.

#525

[S-FM Lois Francklyn]

Actually, with a cooler head, I think Lois' stuff is too weird and too scummy to be scum... Pushing the "interesting" to the point of "confirmed scum" really sucks, and most people will acknowledge that, so I don't think he wants to pull a mislynch from it, because noone will be convinced by that and he knows it. His super obvious avoid-the-question game around Jiles and me also makes no sense if he wants to convince anyone. So, uh, the conclusion is that he's town with a weird strategy, because it would be too bad to be real as scum? Uh. I don't know anymore.
Quaaaack...

Hi sorry, I'm back, just reading in reverse. Not a bad take to be honest. I know it's weird and lame and it feels like catching a Mafia for the wrong reasons so its dirty and unfun, but Im playing with all the tools in my toolbox. I'm very very very positive it's right as well.

I'll try to just avoid talking about Jiles from here on out to focus on getting a good town core group together

As for avoiding questions, I'm finally home and can computer post

I think I made a post making it very clear that I wouldn't be able to get my full reads list until later today?

Did you miss that? And di you miss Jiles trying to Zing me by asking me for my reads right after I said I couldn't do it right now?

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

Gonna limit my posting from here until EOD. I like the BEP reference.

[S-FM Edoua Maije]

#525

"Have you found the other two Mafia?" -Mulan

The fact he's taken so long to answer tells me that he is trying to BS something. -Jiles

Ah my bad he did interact with you , but i wouldn't go so far as to call this buddying. Jiles and Lous have been accusing eachother for the entire day now.
Basically par for the course.

[S-FM Jan Korvin]

So in Sum, we all don't understand Mr. Cage, but he is going to explain himeself. And Mr. Grey Worm (Not Green Worm) suggested we identify coroner to protect him?

[S-FM Edoua Maije]

Gonna limit my posting from here until EOD. I like the BEP reference.

Before you go , any reason for voting me except for a feeling ?

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

Ah my bad he did interact with you , but i wouldn't go so far as to call this buddying. Jiles and Lous have been accusing eachother for the entire day now.
Basically par for the course.

In the context, it was recieved as "yeah, he's totally got nothing right? Btw I scumread you more than anyone else but take my side here."

My pointed question to Lois being used as a device to further his agenda seems odd.

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

Before you go , any reason for voting me except for a feeling ?

It's a big feeling. And you should always express your feelings.

[S-FM Billigan Holbird]

Hi sorry, I'm back, just reading in reverse. Not a bad take to be honest. I know it's weird and lame and it feels like catching a Mafia for the wrong reasons so its dirty and unfun, but Im playing with all the tools in my toolbox. I'm very very very positive it's right as well.

I'll try to just avoid talking about Jiles from here on out to focus on getting a good town core group together

As for avoiding questions, I'm finally home and can computer post

I think I made a post making it very clear that I wouldn't be able to get my full reads list until later today?

Did you miss that? And di you miss Jiles trying to Zing me by asking me for my reads right after I said I couldn't do it right now?

You were able to write me a novel about my playstyle, but couldn't write some lines explaining your reads a little bit further than "he said interesting" because you were phone posting? I don't like hitting on people for activity-related reasons, but this is not coherent at all. You didn't even address the multiple requests by anything but "quote it" instead of just giving us a simplified version of a list of reads and saying more will come later. Tbh, this looks more like an excuse than anything, because the time you put on criticizing Jiles and myself over long posts in which you put "a lot of effort and reflexion", as you said yourself (paraphrasing), shows that you had time to give at the very least the simplified version I'm talking about.

P.S. if you're town and Jiles is actually scum, I will be damned lol

[S-FM Vladislow Kennt]

right, I can definitely see how you see me as antagonizing. I'm playing in a manner with Jiles that by all means is that way. Its probably in poor form because, although I'm certain they are Mafia, I should treat them with respect and ddcency as a person I n behind the account. But my intention isn't to be seen as knee antagonizing another, that was definitely a mistake on my part. Please understamd my position, I am positive they are Mafia, I am not looking for reactions, I am not even really looking for credit. I just need everyone to understand that sooner or later, in order to win, we will have to vote out or eliminate Jiles. Its just that simple.

I don't think I would ever talk about the coroner. Ever. I don't agree with talking about power roles or hyoithesizing what they should do, or think etc. It only risks exposure, especially this early. Does that make sense?

Also its interesting that you would have me leaning not Town. I feel like I singlehandedly brought the state of play out of the gutter and my back is so tired from all that carrying now. Further, I think it's pretty rotten to suspect players who have brought the most to the game. It doesn't make logical sense and it doesn't feel right? I'm not sure how to ohrase it, but its the opposite of a mind meld. Still, its good to know. Frankly, I doubt you'd have the guts to doubt me as Mafia so I still think you're Town oddly, however wrkng.

I think eventually you're going to have rework your Jiles read, but thats more of a reflection on you.

About paranoia, it concerns me in that Im trying to understand your behavior in order to solve you. I think paranoia can be Towny if its done in a certain way, its hard for Mafia to fake. You being paranoid would explain why your reads feel like they're coming from the upside down world and I could figure out where you're coming from.

Your last questions reads a bit cagey? Do you not want me trying to understand you?

You are definitely an antagonist and I can't tell if its because you want to appear to be a tryhard town as a thin veneer for something else.

[S-FM Billigan Holbird]

Hi sorry, I'm back, just reading in reverse. Not a bad take to be honest. I know it's weird and lame and it feels like catching a Mafia for the wrong reasons so its dirty and unfun, but Im playing with all the tools in my toolbox. I'm very very very positive it's right as well.

I'll try to just avoid talking about Jiles from here on out to focus on getting a good town core group together

As for avoiding questions, I'm finally home and can computer post

I think I made a post making it very clear that I wouldn't be able to get my full reads list until later today?

Did you miss that? And di you miss Jiles trying to Zing me by asking me for my reads right after I said I couldn't do it right now?

Wait a minute... you're still holding the "Jiles is confirmed scum" point of view that nobody but yourself understands, and say you'll avoid talking about him? I was debating internally about removing my vote from you, but no, scratch that lol, I'm at the very least keeping the pressure on you until an answer comes out of it.

[S-FM Vladislow Kennt]

Green Worm is right. Without understanding his reasoning, we'll end up talking about nothing. A road block. Mr. Cage, could I suggest you take a step back and explain concisely with as few words as possible. I say that because we don't have much to go on yet, but you are attempting to quickly build a debate.

This!!!!!!

[S-FM Lois Francklyn]

Wait a minute... you're still holding the "Jiles is confirmed scum" point of view that nobody but yourself understands, and say you'll avoid talking about him? I was debating internally about removing my vote from you, but no, scratch that lol, I'm at the very least keeping the pressure on you until an answer comes out of it.

I mean yeah, do whatever you want. That's just a reflection on you. I know my read is on another level and I understand many players won't want to accept it, but it is correct. In post game we can laugh about it and I'll accept your praises. I'm just too good it hurts sometimes.

[S-FM Lois Francklyn]

When does this day even end?

Caught a Mafia on Night Zero.

I'm on another level gang

I dont even care much about the rest of the game to be honest, I'm on a high after that lol

Let's see if you dudes are good enough to recognize that I'm Town and 100% correct about Jiles

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

Vlad and Bart hardcore lurking.

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

When does this day even end?

As I understand it this Day is 72 hours long continuous and in the later 48hours we can lynch, and that we'll probably also find out from the host which lynch method won out soon.

[S-FM Jan Korvin]

As I understand it this Day is 72 hours long continuous and in the later 48hours we can lynch, and that we'll probably also find out from the host which lynch method won out soon.

We never finished the coroner discussion you brought up.

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

Vlad and Bart hardcore lurking.

I am at work and frequently refreshing in my gaps to keep up with what's being said.

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

Whats for dinner ya'll?

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

We never finished the coroner discussion you brought up.

I still think it makes sense for Coroner to use their special abilities on Day 1 as they can use their night abilities on any lynch target we lynch today anyway. We could make choosing targets for the Coroner to reveal a matter of useful discussion today.

I don't agree with the argument that town power roles should solely work in secret. Yes they have night powers but our major power as Town is always going to be during the Day where we can work collaboratively and hopefully make helpful suggestions to them. It's not like the mafia can counter the Coroner's special abilities in any particularly powerful way.

[S-FM Jan Korvin]

Whats for dinner ya'll?

Muffins and diet sweet tea. 8pm in EST the only real time.

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

Way too many Jesters in this town for the number allowed in the Role list.

[S-FM Vladislow Kennt]

I mean yeah, do whatever you want. That's just a reflection on you. I know my read is on another level and I understand many players won't want to accept it, but it is correct. In post game we can laugh about it and I'll accept your praises. I'm just too good it hurts sometimes.

Another level? This guy does have a god complex.

[S-FM Jan Korvin]

I still think it makes sense for Coroner to use their special abilities on Day 1 as they can use their night abilities on any lynch target we lynch today anyway. We could make choosing targets for the Coroner to reveal a matter of useful discussion today.

I don't agree with the argument that town power roles should solely work in secret. Yes they have night powers but our major power as Town is always going to be during the Day where we can work collaboratively and hopefully make helpful suggestions to them. It's not like the mafia can counter the Coroner's special abilities in any particularly powerful way.

Cool, I can work with this. Are you suggesting we find our coroner and he reveals publicly today?

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

Cool, I can work with this. Are you suggesting we find our coroner and he reveals publicly today?

No not at all. I didn't think the Coroner needs to reveal themselves to use his special ability and give us results, does he? I thought the Host would just tell us. Is that not the case?

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

Muffins and diet sweet tea. 8pm in EST the only real time.

That sounds lovely

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

Another level? This guy does have a god complex.

I wonder if he bleeds?

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

Vlad and Bart hardcore lurking.

you forgot me.

my account was fiddled with because now i cant see what the last post i viewed was and have no idea where i left off

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

Yep the role card clearly says "anonymously reveal". The Coroner doesn't need to reveal to use his day abilities.

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

im going to try and find where i left off

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

Disguiser has targeted me but his ability only went off half-cocked.

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

Disguiser has targeted me but his ability only went off half-cocked.

what?

[S-FM Jiles Carballo]

Actually, with a cooler head, I think Lois' stuff is too weird and too scummy to be scum... Pushing the "interesting" to the point of "confirmed scum" really sucks, and most people will acknowledge that, so I don't think he wants to pull a mislynch from it, because noone will be convinced by that and he knows it. His super obvious avoid-the-question game around Jiles and me also makes no sense if he wants to convince anyone. So, uh, the conclusion is that he's town with a weird strategy, because it would be too bad to be real as scum? Uh. I don't know anymore.
Quaaaack...

I was thinking more along the lines of exec rather than scum.

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

i found where i left off
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...l=1#post872048

im going to be catching up in the next few hours.

if we're voting lois i'm fine with that, guy's a twat
let me see if he posted anything else ai or if he's still playing the executioner card

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

you forgot me.

my account was fiddled with because now i cant see what the last post i viewed was and have no idea where i left off

Welcome back!!

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

Welcome back!!

BIRD GANG

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

I was thinking more along the lines of exec rather than scum.

Non town is non town

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

S-FM Jiles Carballo (2):
S-FM Lois Francklyn, S-FM Gollert Twissell
S-FM Edoua Maije (1):
S-FM Marlwyn Janson
S-FM Marck Wilbird (1):
S-FM Arnarld Quinne
S-FM Lois Francklyn (3):
S-FM Marck Wilbird, S-FM Billigan Holbird, S-FM Jiles Carballo

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

BIRD GANG RISE!! SQUAWK!!!

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

what?

Somebody is trying to steal my identity.

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

what voting method won? it looks like there isn't a hammer, so was it concord or plurality?

[S-FM Jan Korvin]

i found where i left off
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...l=1#post872048

im going to be catching up in the next few hours.

if we're voting lois i'm fine with that, guy's a twat
let me see if he posted anything else ai or if he's still playing the executioner card

Hello Mr. Iron Giant, I forgot to include you in the list of nicknames.

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

Somebody is trying to steal my identity.

you should really invest in some insurance