S-FM 302: Magellan (15p)

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

WTF? I wanted to lynch VLAD DAY 2 WHEN I OUTED HIM AS DISGUISER! YOU OUTED YOU DIGUISER WHO EVERYONE EVERONE SUSPECTED WOW!!!

Huh? You didn't out Jan as disguiser. In fact you said anybody accusing him was a scum.
I accused him anyway.
Look what he turned out to be.

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

Huh? You didn't out Jan as disguiser. In fact you said anybody accusing him was a scum.
I accused him anyway.
Look what he turned out to be.

And it was a masterful bus. Until you decided to do a complete 180 today, when the vote matters a hellava lot more than it did back then.

[S-FM Fred Attlebish]

You are totally whacked.
Pity the GM didn't give you more bullets.
Then you could have shot the rest of us Town too and this God forsaken game would be over.

I still want Johna to Die first/ Today

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

This is beyond delusional.
GM has trolled us all game.
The master troll was to give me these Town teammates (not you Wilbird - you are the true master manipulator).

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

I still want Johna to Die first/ Today

Can we please take mafia first? At best, lynching Quinne is 2/3 mafia dead

At worst, Joha is actually a benign

[S-FM Fred Attlebish]

Huh? You didn't out Jan as disguiser. In fact you said anybody accusing him was a scum.
I accused him anyway.
Look what he turned out to be.

SO tell me where you wanting to lynch Vlad day 2 when I was wanting him lynched?

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

I still want Johna to Die first/ Today

Tbh, I stopped caring what you wanted when you just random shot our Sheriff and gave away the only leverage we had which was our 1 bullet.

[S-FM Fred Attlebish]

This is beyond delusional.
GM has trolled us all game.
The master troll was to give me these Town teammates (not you Wilbird - you are the true master manipulator).

So tell me why not Lynch Johna today and wilbird tomorrow?

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

SO tell me where you wanting to lynch Vlad day 2 when I was wanting him lynched?

Go read the Day 2 chat dude. It's pretty obvious that I did. You live in some fictional universe where it was just you.

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

This is beyond delusional.
GM has trolled us all game.
The master troll was to give me these Town teammates (not you Wilbird - you are the true master manipulator).

Yeah I sure master manipulated myself into being lynched next.

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

So tell me why not Lynch Johna today and wilbird tomorrow?

Kill Scum before benign neutrals who have pledged themselves to our cause.
There's literally no honour in killing harmless survivors.

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

Yeah I sure master manipulated myself into being lynched next.

I doubt you'll care when Gollert stabs Fred in the back in the final 1v1.

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

Seeing as Fred now loses 1v1s given he used his bullet up.

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

Kill Scum before benign neutrals who have pledged themselves to our cause.
There's literally no honour in killing harmless survivors.

Theres no honor in telling a potential sheriff to waste 1 of 2 charges on him either. Yet here you are wanting to keep him alive to try to give scum majority

[S-FM Fred Attlebish]

Tbh, I stopped caring what you wanted when you just random shot our Sheriff and gave away the only leverage we had which was our 1 bullet.

I admited I misread the GF role. I did not notice he had an extra abilty. So in My eyes. Both sheriffs was MAfia. and THe Arct was confirmed town. I screwed up there but I was not wrong about DAY 2 wanting VLAD dead had we done that We would have JAn today and town would be Set. with the Corrner checks. The check on our sheriff dead would have given us alot of info. And I claimed Jan was Vlad EOD 3. So dont give me that crap.

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

Bart bb I want to town read you

But you wanna turn your back on the week long plan that YOU HELPED PUSH to lynch the triclaim

You also want to spare the neutral claim

You favor lynching the TOWN LEADER over both these options in a potential LYLO

If you're town, imagine a world in which Im town. How does this look to me?

[S-FM Joha Schtilzt]

Ii dont like how you keep saying. It is NEUTRAL EVIL. NOT just NEUTRAL.

Do you think he's neutral benign then?

Like I don't understand why this is a red flag. I'm uncounterclaimed NB.

[S-FM Fred Attlebish]

Bart bb I want to town read you

But you wanna turn your back on the week long plan that YOU HELPED PUSH to lynch the triclaim

You also want to spare the neutral claim

You favor lynching the TOWN LEADER over both these options in a potential LYLO

If you're town, imagine a world in which Im town. How does this look to me?

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am town and I am saying the exact same thing.

[S-FM Joha Schtilzt]

Theres no honor in telling a potential sheriff to waste 1 of 2 charges on him either. Yet here you are wanting to keep him alive to try to give scum majority

If Quinne checked me and got neutral, then Quinne was confirmed FMPOV. It would be a hard pill to swallow for everyone else but they would confirm Quinne as well.

Instead Quinne checked you and got neutral. That results in you being Neutral Evil, since you're not contesting me being NB.

Instead, you decided to say you were framed. Why would someone frame you as neutral? it doesn't make sense. I totally believe you could be turncoat. High post count and talking in bold does not a town leader make.

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

Bart bb I want to town read you

But you wanna turn your back on the week long plan that YOU HELPED PUSH to lynch the triclaim

You also want to spare the neutral claim

You favor lynching the TOWN LEADER over both these options in a potential LYLO

If you're town, imagine a world in which Im town. How does this look to me?

If you were Town and you were getting accused (as you are) following a reported positive night check then I would expect you to explain how you were either framed or setup. Instead you are turning on your accuser. This play doesn't make a lot of sense to me if you are Town.

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

If Quinne checked me and got neutral, then Quinne was confirmed FMPOV. It would be a hard pill to swallow for everyone else but they would confirm Quinne as well.

Instead Quinne checked you and got neutral. That results in you being Neutral Evil, since you're not contesting me being NB.

Instead, you decided to say you were framed. Why would someone frame you as neutral? it doesn't make sense. I totally believe you could be turncoat. High post count and talking in bold does not a town leader make.

I'm not framed

Quinne is LYING

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am town and I am saying the exact same thing.

Fred seriously on statistics alone;
66% chance Quinne is Sheriff.
66% chance Wilbird is NE.
This is a nobrainer on who to lynch next.

Not to mention LOIS and MARLWYN 1v1ed each other which pretty much means 1 of them was the mafia NOT QUINNE - WHICH MEANS WE SHOULD TRUST QUINNE'S RESULTS.

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

I'm not framed

Quinne is LYING

This statement means nothing because in every scum eventuality you will claim this.

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

If you were Town and you were getting accused (as you are) following a reported positive night check then I would expect you to explain how you were either framed or setup. Instead you are turning on your accuser. This play doesn't make a lot of sense to me if you are Town.

I already explained the most likely scenario. Quinne is LYING. Why would a framer frame me as neutral? It doesnt make sense.

No, its likely MULAN was framed. I already spelled this out for you

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

Fred seriously on statistics alone;
66% chance Quinne is Sheriff.
66% chance Wilbird is NE.
This is a nobrainer on who to lynch next.

Not to mention LOIS and MARLWYN 1v1ed each other which pretty much means 1 of them was the mafia NOT QUINNE - WHICH MEANS WE SHOULD TRUST QUINNE'S RESULTS.

100% 2/3 mafia are dead with Quinnes death

100 FUCKING PERCENT

Last time I checked 100% > 66%

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

This statement means nothing because in every scum eventuality you will claim this.

Then LYNCH ME

But AFTER QUINNE. When town cant lose majority!

[S-FM Fred Attlebish]

Do you think he's neutral benign then?

Like I don't understand why this is a red flag. I'm uncounterclaimed NB.

Jan claimed day 1 lynch was VT or GF. (GF would come up VT)
Jan day outed Day 3 Check on Day 1 Check so all we have a is Day 1 Coroner Check.
Day 2 Lynch Could be NB and Day 3 NB never outed. HMMM ODDD
Day 4 Sleep
Day 5 sleep
Day 6 Quinne Fake claims check on wilbird Neutral. ( Mafia saying hey NE here is your chance to let us know who you are) NE claims I am NB quickly. NOt when it makes sence to out Day 3. after his easy win day 1. but on Day 6 when The Odds are good that NB is Dead and He could cost to the win on a fake claim.

[S-FM Fred Attlebish]

I'm not framed

Quinne is LYING

They think I can not see scum painting. LOL They makeing this easy.

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

They think I can not see scum painting. LOL They makeing this easy.

I dont know man. I cant decide with Bart between stubborn town and scum making his move

If hes scum making his move it will be really telling if another person puts a vote on me.

[S-FM Fred Attlebish]

Fred seriously on statistics alone;
66% chance Quinne is Sheriff.
66% chance Wilbird is NE.
This is a nobrainer on who to lynch next.

Not to mention LOIS and MARLWYN 1v1ed each other which pretty much means 1 of them was the mafia NOT QUINNE - WHICH MEANS WE SHOULD TRUST QUINNE'S RESULTS.

WOW you think I would lycnh Wilbird over the Fake NB claim. The fact you hard defending Him tells me you have an agenda you not even considering the safest way for town to win.

[S-FM Fred Attlebish]

Then LYNCH ME

But AFTER QUINNE. When town cant lose majority!

You are never todays lynch NEVER!!!!!!!!

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

Joha has shown anti Wilbird sentiment

All they need is to convince 1 town

Lets just stick to the plan. Quinne goes down, we know 2/3 mafia are dead. 100 fucking percent.

[S-FM Fred Attlebish]

-vote S-FM Quinne

only way it is changeing is on Joha. but today Quinne is lynch and tomorrow Joha.
Town don't be stupid. You know I am confirmed town. Lynch Quinne Today.

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

Theres no reason whatsoever to sway from the plan.

[S-FM Joha Schtilzt]

Jan claimed day 1 lynch was VT or GF. (GF would come up VT)
Jan day outed Day 3 Check on Day 1 Check so all we have a is Day 1 Coroner Check.
Day 2 Lynch Could be NB and Day 3 NB never outed. HMMM ODDD
Day 4 Sleep
Day 5 sleep
Day 6 Quinne Fake claims check on wilbird Neutral. ( Mafia saying hey NE here is your chance to let us know who you are) NE claims I am NB quickly. NOt when it makes sence to out Day 3. after his easy win day 1. but on Day 6 when The Odds are good that NB is Dead and He could cost to the win on a fake claim.

So three questions for you then
1. Who among the dead bodies is the NB if not me
2. Why would the NB not claim on the stands if they were about to be lynched?
3. In the theoretical scenario where I were to claim on day 3, what stops town from lynching me instead of skipping? Sheer power of will? Why should I believe that I would live with three trigger happy "town leaders" at the time in the form of you, mulan and wilbird.

[S-FM Fred Attlebish]

Theres no reason whatsoever to sway from the plan.

I agree. 2/3 mafia dead 100% confirmed and The hard defenders today just outed in my eyes. Go ahead Joha Shoot me I dare you.

[S-FM Joha Schtilzt]

Joha has shown anti Wilbird sentiment

All they need is to convince 1 town

Lets just stick to the plan. Quinne goes down, we know 2/3 mafia are dead. 100 fucking percent.

Yes because the 50-50 here is lynching you and Quinne FMPOV. One of you is lying. Just lynch both omegalul

[S-FM Joha Schtilzt]

I agree. 2/3 mafia dead 100% confirmed and The hard defenders today just outed in my eyes. Go ahead Joha Shoot me I dare you.

I am an executioner.

[S-FM Fred Attlebish]

So three questions for you then
1. Who among the dead bodies is the NB if not me
2. Why would the NB not claim on the stands if they were about to be lynched?
3. In the theoretical scenario where I were to claim on day 3, what stops town from lynching me instead of skipping? Sheer power of will? Why should I believe that I would live with three trigger happy "town leaders" at the time in the form of you, mulan and wilbird.

Read what I posted and what you Quoted wow lol.

[S-FM Fred Attlebish]

I am an executioner.

OK if you are EXE then why are you agests Lynching Quinne?

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

So three questions for you then
1. Who among the dead bodies is the NB if not me
2. Why would the NB not claim on the stands if they were about to be lynched?
3. In the theoretical scenario where I were to claim on day 3, what stops town from lynching me instead of skipping? Sheer power of will? Why should I believe that I would live with three trigger happy "town leaders" at the time in the form of you, mulan and wilbird.

For all we know NB could be a clone that hasnt decided which way to side

All we know is you are admitted non town.

[S-FM Gollert Twissell]

Oh God if Gollert gets taken to the end.

Why not dude? Is it because I'm rubbing you the wrong way? Did you sense some bad juju? Are my plans really that bad?
I mean... you can see them as bad, I respect that, but no I was never manipulative. Hasty? Yes. Manipulative? No.

It is just a side-step and doesn't actually take us any further forward. We will have the same choices to make tomorrow.

It's not a side step. He may change alliances when he pleases, by lynching him we ensure that there cannot be a person that swaps sides preserving majority. I also don't like how people are playing so short-sighted this game. The objective is not to lynch one scum, it's to identify town and keep them alive until the end, lynching other scum in the process.

By lynching Wilbird, if we are wrong, town straight up loses. In contrast, lynching Quinne means we can have confirmed to have lynched the second mafia and preserve the majority.

[S-FM Joha Schtilzt]

OK if you are EXE then why are you agests Lynching Quinne?

I'm not?

[S-FM Gollert Twissell]

I dont see why everyone scum reading Gollert

I think it's because either town got too lazy to read all of my posts, or that I make a wrong post, and then proceed to get ignored. It was a mistake to work my thoughts out in chat yesterday, but yeah, I don't see why I'm being scum read so heavily.

I blame Lembird who started this on bad juju.

I want to lynch johna Today. I feel like it is a safer play.

I can be persuaded on this. Since we chose to lynch Mulan yesterday, not following through to lynch Quinne today or tomorrow is a mistake and may lead to a loss in majority. Today was already potentially a loss, but either turncoat afk or didn't chose the daygun option.

[S-FM Joha Schtilzt]

I'm not?

I literally just want to not die. That's the only strong opinion I have.

[S-FM Fred Attlebish]

Jan claimed day 1 lynch was VT or GF. (GF would come up VT)
Jan day outed Day 3 Check on Day 1 Check so all we have a is Day 1 Coroner Check.
Day 2 Lynch Could be NB and Day 3 NB never outed. HMMM ODDD
Day 4 Sleep
Day 5 sleep
Day 6 Quinne Fake claims check on wilbird Neutral. ( Mafia saying hey NE here is your chance to let us know who you are) NE claims I am NB quickly. NOt when it makes sence to out Day 3. after his easy win day 1. but on Day 6 when The Odds are good that NB is Dead and He could cost to the win on a fake claim.

HMMM did I say it here? ????????

[S-FM Fred Attlebish]

I literally just want to not die. That's the only strong opinion I have.

Ok then tell me who do you think is NE Other than wilbird.

[S-FM Gollert Twissell]

Kill Scum before benign neutrals who have pledged themselves to our cause.
There's literally no honour in killing harmless survivors.

Harmless? No. For all we know, Joha could be an evil role that decided to gamble by claiming neutral benign. And he can change alliances at any moment.

[S-FM Joha Schtilzt]

Read what I posted and what you Quoted wow lol.

Your post did not answer my questions. That's why I asked them.

This isn't a hard question. If I'm not the NB, and the NB is dead, WHO IS THE DEAD NB

Why would I ever, EVER want to claim myself as neutral when the game is slowing down and days might be getting skipped? When is it EVER more beneficial for town to skip instead of lynching a neutral?

Nope. This logic is fucking awful, man.

[S-FM Fred Attlebish]

I'm not?

S-FM Quinne (3 [L-3]):
S-FM Marck Wilbird, S-FM Gollert Twissell, S-FM Fred Attlebish
S-FM Joha Schtilzt (1 [L-5]):
S-FM Billigan Holbird
S-FM Marck Wilbird (2 [L-4]):
S-FM Bart Pilfter, S-FM Quinne

I dont see your vote on Quinne.