S-FM 302: Magellan (15p)

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

what voting method won? it looks like there isn't a hammer, so was it concord or plurality?

Why would there be a hammer?

[S-FM Jan Korvin]

BIRD GANG RISE!! SQUAWK!!!

Dr. Quaksworth has spoken

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

you should really invest in some insurance

I didn't think I needed to until N2 but this guy is trying to use his ability already.

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

Why would there be a hammer?

the other methods are majority and majority + plurality
both of those methods have a hammer, right?

[S-FM Jan Korvin]

Why would there be a hammer?

I'm with Grey Worm on this one. But we never did settle that old plurality debate, did we?

[S-FM Vladislow Kennt]

Why am I not getting quote notifications on this account? What is going on?

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

S-FM Lembird Oshay
S-FM Billigan Holbird
S-FM Gollert Twissell
S-FM Jan Korvin
S-FM Rotholfo Goncales
S-FM Lois Francklyn
S-FM Arnarld Quinne

S-FM Marlwyn Janson
S-FM Edoua Maije
S-FM Joha Schtilzt

S-FM Bart Pilfter
S-FM Jiles Carballo
S-FM Vlädislow Kennt
S-FM Fred Attlebish

Engagement questions - everyone respond so I can judge you:

If you could have any TPR in the game what role would you choose
If you could have any alignment in the game what alignment would you choose
If you could have any scum role in the game which role would you choose
If you could have a pizza which pineapple do you choose
Who's afraid of the big bad wolf, the big bad wolf, the big bad wolf
Year of the Dragon or Ripto's Rage
Pepsi or Coke

mason
town
the framer/architech
what?
probably pigs
year of the dragon
pepsi

[S-FM Vladislow Kennt]

What post # was the lynch method announced?

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

Why am I not getting quote notifications on this account? What is going on?

weird huh?
idk why either

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

Quote notifications are disabled in game. Squawk.

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

your game is already over? Do you not understand this yet? You got caught, by me

so this lois guy is still going on about it?

im not going to vote a player based solely on someone using a literally and self-admittedly half baked theory

[S-FM Vladislow Kennt]

so this lois guy is still going on about it?

im not going to vote a player based solely on someone using a literally and self-admittedly half baked theory

Lois is literally delusional if you read his posts. Delusions of grandeur. Maybe hypersleep induced schizo.

[S-FM Jan Korvin]

mason
town
the framer/architech
what?
probably pigs
year of the dragon
pepsi

BG
Jester
Disguiser
Large pepperoni with banana peppers and feta cheese- thin crust
You said it three times, so ima go with the three little OCD pigs
I was born in the year of the Dragon
Coke- Grandma always bought coke. I like it in a class cup with ice.

[S-FM Jiles Carballo]

Lois made the points about mental progression pretty clear.

Jiles posted a readslist that marked me scum. Then tried to buddy up with me immediately afterwards, against Lois.

I marked you as scummish if you read my readlist.

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

I marked you as scummish if you read my readlist.

Scummish, scumlean, scumread. Point still stands.

I'm not even sure why you scumread me.

[S-FM Jiles Carballo]

Scummish, scumlean, scumread. Point still stands.

I'm not even sure why you scumread me.

I don't like the comment about you shooting whoever didn't listen to you if you were vigi

I forget which page that is on exactly, but that's the summary of it.

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

reading lois is like reading two different players
they're aggro towards lois, and seemingly very cordinal towards everyone else
i dont know what to make of that sort of behavior

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

Thanks for asking, I've been keeping track as we go.

Town Reads:
Billigan
Korvin
Lemibird
Quinne (For now)
Gollert

Neutrals:
Lois (Likely exec/Scummish)
Vlad


Null Reads
Joha
Me (Of course)
Fred
Rotholfo

Scum
Marlwyn (Scummish, closer to scum than null for me)


I have alot of null reads due to the 3 people not posting and my preference to not read myself in the table. Those in the town slots are those that have contributed a fair bit of discussion and asked meaningful questions. I personally am on the fence of just throwing the lurkers in as scum, however I do not see the need to yet. No one has acted overtly scummy apart from Marlwyn/Lois for the time being

(Lois is in the exec slot because I think he is more exec than scum)

I may have forgot someone (highly likely)

why don't you townread yourself?
self is always town from your perspective, unless you're not

[S-FM Jiles Carballo]

reading lois is like reading two different players
they're aggro towards lois, and seemingly very cordinal towards everyone else
i dont know what to make of that sort of behavior

Personally (I repeat myself for the probably 5th time) it looks like a extravagant exec attempt.

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

I don't like the comment about you shooting whoever didn't listen to you if you were vigi

I forget which page that is on exactly, but that's the summary of it.

Yes it is. Yes I still would. Why would a mafia tell you who to shoot? If it wasn't a TPR read for them that they'd inevitably hit anyway.

Besides, I've already said who I TPR read to the unhappiness of two players, shame on me.

[S-FM Jiles Carballo]

why don't you townread yourself?
self is always town from your perspective, unless you're not

I don't townread myself because people question the motives of those who townread themselves at times. I find it a lot easier to just not read myself even though I know I am town.

[S-FM Jiles Carballo]

Yes it is. Yes I still would. Why would a mafia tell you who to shoot? If it wasn't a TPR read for them that they'd inevitably hit anyway.

Besides, I've already said who I TPR read to the unhappiness of two players, shame on me.

No, it's just how you said it makes me kind of raise my eyebrows a little bit.

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

Personally (I repeat myself for the probably 5th time) it looks like a extravagant exec attempt.

Yes, but what exec plays at sea-level like this? You yourself used the word extravagant so you recognize how audacious and fast the push is. Why so gung-ho so early? I don't read that as exec.

[S-FM Vladislow Kennt]

reading lois is like reading two different players
they're aggro towards lois, and seemingly very cordinal towards everyone else
i dont know what to make of that sort of behavior

Schizo, that is all we can make of it.

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

I town read myself

[S-FM Vladislow Kennt]

Yes, but what exec plays at sea-level like this? You yourself used the word extravagant so you recognize how audacious and fast the push is. Why so gung-ho so early? I don't read that as exec.

Scum playing "dumb" to pretend to be exec maybe.

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

No, it's just how you said it makes me kind of raise my eyebrows a little bit.

And raise them for what reason? You call it scummy, I want to know why.

[S-FM Lois Francklyn]

i found where i left off
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...l=1#post872048

im going to be catching up in the next few hours.

if we're voting lois i'm fine with that, guy's a twat
let me see if he posted anything else ai or if he's still playing the executioner card

And for this reason, I'm out. Have fun everyone else!

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

And for this reason, I'm out. Have fun everyone else!

Maybe stop being a twat?

[S-FM Jiles Carballo]

Yes, but what exec plays at sea-level like this? You yourself used the word extravagant so you recognize how audacious and fast the push is. Why so gung-ho so early? I don't read that as exec.

That's the only thing I can call it other than a scum acting like exec, it doesn't make too much sense to me personally. If I were in his shoes I'd probably backtrack and explain exactly my thought process then pray that he didn't get lynched if he were town.

[S-FM Jan Korvin]

And for this reason, I'm out. Have fun everyone else!

What is happening. Nobody thinks you are a twat. Lets just relax step back.

[S-FM Jiles Carballo]

And raise them for what reason? You call it scummy, I want to know why.

I find it scummy because of how direct you were in saying what you would do as a PR no matter if it were a towny you were shooting or not.

That's why I found it scummy.

[S-FM Lois Francklyn]

Maybe stop being a twat?

Personal insults just doesn't do it for me in a game if Mafia. You can engage with me on my play, disagree with it, think the play is batshit terrible, but the line is at personal insults.

I'm not going to waste my time dealing with that stuff. Enjoy!!

[S-FM Jiles Carballo]

What is happening. Nobody thinks you are a twat. Lets just relax step back.

I agree, those of us that are hot headed currently should step back and take an hour or two before coming back to this.

[S-FM Jiles Carballo]

Personal insults just doesn't do it for me in a game if Mafia. You can engage with me on my play, disagree with it, think the play is batshit terrible, but the line is at personal insults.

I'm not going to waste my time dealing with that stuff. Enjoy!!

Understandable.

[S-FM Vladislow Kennt]

Personal insults just doesn't do it for me in a game if Mafia. You can engage with me on my play, disagree with it, think the play is batshit terrible, but the line is at personal insults.

I'm not going to waste my time dealing with that stuff. Enjoy!!

I'm not begging you to stay if that is what you are looking for.

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

Scum playing "dumb" to pretend to be exec maybe.

Doubtful. Imo the push is an artificial gambit. Push one guy extremely hard for no reason, make reads from it and if they happen to be mafia, great. If not, oh well we lost one town member who couldn't defend himself or everyone felt he was scummy enough to be lynched anyway.

His most recent way of speaking supports this. In fact, there are two other people who have used the word 'interesting' unironically since then who have not been pushed.

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

Personal insults just doesn't do it for me in a game if Mafia. You can engage with me on my play, disagree with it, think the play is batshit terrible, but the line is at personal insults.

I'm not going to waste my time dealing with that stuff. Enjoy!!

lol its a pretty tame insult

[S-FM Jan Korvin]

lol its a pretty tame insult

Dr. Quacksworth is right. It was use off highhandedly. Let keep it civil for the sake of democracy and my patience.

[S-FM Jiles Carballo]

Doubtful. Imo the push is an artificial gambit. Push one guy extremely hard for no reason, make reads from it and if they happen to be mafia, great. If not, oh well we lost one town member who couldn't defend himself or everyone felt he was scummy enough to be lynched anyway.

His most recent way of speaking supports this. In fact, there are two other people who have used the word 'interesting' unironically since then who have not been pushed.

Indeed his push is very interesting.

[S-FM Jan Korvin]

Dr. Quacksworth is right. It was use off highhandedly. Let keep it civil for the sake of democracy and my patience.

lol I misspelled a lot there. He used the term off handily. Lets proceed.

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

lol I misspelled a lot there. He used the term off handily. Lets proceed.

Following your lead, captain

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

over-exaggerated emotional reaction is a scum tell in my experience

[S-FM Jiles Carballo]

over-exaggerated emotional reaction is a scum tell in my experience

With that being said this game I have noticed a trend of straight up personal attacks which are unneeded.

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

In my head I see. Nick Cage. Grey Worm. Fat Worm. Ren and Stimpy, Mulan, Brad Pitt, dragon fly, Harley Quinne. Did I miss anyone? I will be referring to each of you by these nicknames, otherwise I won't be able to associate names to pics to profiles/postings.

for sake of translation could you make a list of whose nicknames refer to what player?
i get some of them but a few go over my head

[S-FM Jan Korvin]

Following your lead, captain

Well Doctor. First Mr. Cage, we'll adjust our terminology to better reflect our intentions. Lets focus on evidence and strategy, rather than bicker.

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

With that being said this game I have noticed a trend of straight up personal attacks which are unneeded.

Go fuck yourself

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

jk hello man, you aight

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

Indeed his push is very interesting.

I like the banter, I really do.

But despite not having revealed my readslist (and I have no intention to) you're certainly on the lower end of the spectrum. So I cannot say these posts give me any confidence in you or that your lynch would not be worthwhile.

If you'd like or care, I suggest doing something other than defend yourself or calling Lois delusional to actually seem town. I will not say his suspicions of you, though misplaced, have no merit in the status quo.

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

jello* man