S-FM 302: Magellan (15p)

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

Hey, I genuinely forgot about Lembird's existence... but he does exist. And uh, what did he do this game? I remember nothing interesting about him o.O

Also, it is terribly angleshooty to read into an angleshooting read someone had (and I still don't get how host confirmed Quinne was scum but I guess there's no way out of that hell now), but ehhh, I agree that Bart wouldn't be pushing for Marck's survival if he was scum. And tbh, things make more sense if Lembird EXISTS as an alternative scum, in a team with Edoua. Does that make sense?

WHY DOES EVERYONE FORGET ME

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

I HAVE MORE THAN DOUBLE THE POST COUNT OF SOME PEOPLE BUT I AM FORGOTTEN MORE OFTEN THAN THEM

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

im curious as to why you scum read me

I did this earlier already

Heres how I see it btw as I go down

Gollert - I think I may have had a harsh reaction about Gollert to their auto assumption post where they listed me as NE before and said me being NE "made sense". From a non objective standpoint they've been pretty townie

Holbird - Been on my shitlist for so long but the last few days they seem like confused/exhausted town. So I believe thats what they may be tbh

Bart - 50/50. Dumb town that fell hook line and sinker for Quinnes play or scum making his move. Big ? mark. Could go either way. With the way that everyone town reads him, could easily be this games punchy

Lembird/Ed - 1 scum is likely in these. If not, well I definitely do suck at mafia tbh. Lembird has flown under the radar and Ed is nonexistent.

Lembirds avatar tbh doesnt help lol

Good luck, ducks, SQUAWK

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

Ok please everyone post you top town( not me ) and top scum. Please everyone do this exercise.

in the interest of rebuilding our broken relationship and for the safety of our neighbourhood I will do this for you;

from Town to Scum;

Bart then Fred then:

Wilbird; I've already posted my reasoning on why i don't think he's the (you can disagree all you want with it, but I believe it) and before all that went down he had been behaving quite reliably Towny
Lembird; this guy isn't afraid to call out BS even if it goes against the majority and that scores hard town points in my book
Twinsells; I flip flop on my read on this guy. At times he has seemed to contribute little and at other times he has seemed to offer some real analysis. On the fence about him but I'd lean more toward a Town read.
Ed; really just seems to be perma-absent but lurking just out of attention all the time
Holbird; I think this guy pretends to be all nice but actually got a RED rolecard or orange or whatever colour scum are

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

I HAVE MORE THAN DOUBLE THE POST COUNT OF SOME PEOPLE BUT I AM FORGOTTEN MORE OFTEN THAN THEM

You are pretty forgettable

[S-FM Billigan Holbird]

WHY WOULD SCUM BART ANGLESHOOT LIKE THIS

SCUM BART LYNCHES ME HERE

This conversation is horrible to have and we would potentially all get infracted for this in a normal situation, but like, Marck is right. And given the game's situation (which is not normal at all), I don't think anyone can be blamed for angleshooting because there's not much left to do outside of it lol.

-vote S-FM Lembird Oshay

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

This conversation is horrible to have and we would potentially all get infracted for this in a normal situation, but like, Marck is right. And given the game's situation (which is not normal at all), I don't think anyone can be blamed for angleshooting because there's not much left to do outside of it lol.

-vote S-FM Lembird Oshay

okay buddy holbird

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

And given the game's situation (which is not normal at all), I don't think anyone can be blamed for angleshooting because there's not much left to do outside of it lol.

YES THERE IS IT'S CALLED SCUMHUNTING
PLEASE TRY AND DO IT

[S-FM Billigan Holbird]

WHY DOES EVERYONE FORGET ME

I HAVE MORE THAN DOUBLE THE POST COUNT OF SOME PEOPLE BUT I AM FORGOTTEN MORE OFTEN THAN THEM

Well, that's the question I've been asking myself . The answer I came to is that you are highly forgettable, for you haven't really been shaking the tree much, nor did you give ideas that went really far from the consensus. If I remember correctly, you were against the poor Jiles for reasons that are still highly mysterious to me, but that were apparently accepted by the majority of players for reasons that are even more mysterious to me. I think you also posted a lot of one-liners?

On the other hand, although you have more than double of my post count, you haven't been involved in nearly everything with hard and strongly voiced stances on hot topics, unlike me. Am I mistaken in my analysis, or are you a fake bird with red blood in your veins?

[S-FM Billigan Holbird]

YES THERE IS IT'S CALLED SCUMHUNTING
PLEASE TRY AND DO IT

Sure. You're served. See post above.

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

in the interest of rebuilding our broken relationship and for the safety of our neighbourhood I will do this for you;

from Town to Scum;

Bart then Fred then:

Wilbird; I've already posted my reasoning on why i don't think he's the (you can disagree all you want with it, but I believe it) and before all that went down he had been behaving quite reliably Towny
Lembird; this guy isn't afraid to call out BS even if it goes against the majority and that scores hard town points in my book
Twinsells; I flip flop on my read on this guy. At times he has seemed to contribute little and at other times he has seemed to offer some real analysis. On the fence about him but I'd lean more toward a Town read.
Ed; really just seems to be perma-absent but lurking just out of attention all the time
Holbird; I think this guy pretends to be all nice but actually got a RED rolecard or orange or whatever colour scum are

i think your reasoning for putting holbird down there is bad and you should feel bad

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

Well, that's the question I've been asking myself . The answer I came to is that you are highly forgettable, for you haven't really been shaking the tree much, nor did you give ideas that went really far from the consensus. If I remember correctly, you were against the poor Jiles for reasons that are still highly mysterious to me, but that were apparently accepted by the majority of players for reasons that are even more mysterious to me. I think you also posted a lot of one-liners?

On the other hand, although you have more than double of my post count, you haven't been involved in nearly everything with hard and strongly voiced stances on hot topics, unlike me. Am I mistaken in my analysis, or are you a fake bird with red blood in your veins?

what?

are you implying that ive been sheeping this whole game?
sure i did during the skip nonsense days we had but i have done EVERYTHING but skip

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

what?

are you implying that ive been sheeping this whole game?
sure i did during the skip nonsense days we had but i have done EVERYTHING but skip

not skip, sheep*

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

holbird you're full of it

[S-FM Billigan Holbird]

in the interest of rebuilding our broken relationship and for the safety of our neighbourhood I will do this for you;

from Town to Scum;

Bart then Fred then:

Wilbird; I've already posted my reasoning on why i don't think he's the (you can disagree all you want with it, but I believe it) and before all that went down he had been behaving quite reliably Towny
Lembird; this guy isn't afraid to call out BS even if it goes against the majority and that scores hard town points in my book
Twinsells; I flip flop on my read on this guy. At times he has seemed to contribute little and at other times he has seemed to offer some real analysis. On the fence about him but I'd lean more toward a Town read.
Ed; really just seems to be perma-absent but lurking just out of attention all the time
Holbird; I think this guy pretends to be all nice but actually got a RED rolecard or orange or whatever colour scum are

Which bullshit did Lembird call out against the majority, by the way? This is a sincere question, it's perfectly possible that I've missed it when he did it. It's just that I never saw it happen lol; he was rather going with the bullshit on Jiles that happened on D1. If anything, you should be giving ME townpoints for my strong opposition to the Jiles lynch on D1 lol.
Also, you're basically saying I'm scum because although I pretend to be nice, I'm scum. Which can be shortened to "Holbird is scum because he's scum". Which sucks.

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

i think your reasoning for putting holbird down there is bad and you should feel bad

Dude I did some more effortful scum hunting earlier on in the game.
Now I am half checked out of this game after we lynched a Survivor.
You will get my gut feels and impressions only unless I can be persuaded to try harder again.

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

Which bullshit did Lembird call out against the majority, by the way? This is a sincere question, it's perfectly possible that I've missed it when he did it. It's just that I never saw it happen lol; he was rather going with the bullshit on Jiles that happened on D1. If anything, you should be giving ME townpoints for my strong opposition to the Jiles lynch on D1 lol.
Also, you're basically saying I'm scum because although I pretend to be nice, I'm scum. Which can be shortened to "Holbird is scum because he's scum". Which sucks.

He called the Survivor lynch dumb for one thing.

[S-FM Billigan Holbird]

i think your reasoning for putting holbird down there is bad and you should feel bad

Well... yeah, that's pretty much it lol. <3 you bart though

what?

are you implying that ive been sheeping this whole game?
sure i did during the skip nonsense days we had but i have done EVERYTHING but skip

Not exactly. I'm rather stating that you have not done many noticeable actions in my eyes. As I said, I might be wrong. I however might be right, hence why I'm bringing the point up.

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

Which bullshit did Lembird call out against the majority, by the way? This is a sincere question, it's perfectly possible that I've missed it when he did it. It's just that I never saw it happen lol; he was rather going with the bullshit on Jiles that happened on D1. If anything, you should be giving ME townpoints for my strong opposition to the Jiles lynch on D1 lol.
Also, you're basically saying I'm scum because although I pretend to be nice, I'm scum. Which can be shortened to "Holbird is scum because he's scum". Which sucks.

i called twat!nick out for being full of shit
i called twinsells out for believing his shitty theoru
i called jan out for being a fencesitter
i called you out for being horribly apathatic
i called bart out on multiple occasions for his reads
i called twinsells out for being manipulative

to say i haven't "shaken the tree" at all is dishonest

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

Dude I did some more effortful scum hunting earlier on in the game.
Now I am half checked out of this game after we lynched a Survivor.
You will get my gut feels and impressions only unless I can be persuaded to try harder again.

Fuck the survivor

He would have hammered me in an instant if I got 4 votes before Quinne or himself. He said so himself

[S-FM Billigan Holbird]

He called the Survivor lynch dumb for one thing.

Which it was absolutely not lmao. He was a non-town. Scum have no nightkill. Survivors usually get lynched even when the scum have a nightkill. At worst, we lost nothing of value (he wasn't town). At best, we eliminated someone who would have sided with scum.

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

Dude I did some more effortful scum hunting earlier on in the game.
Now I am half checked out of this game after we lynched a Survivor.
You will get my gut feels and impressions only unless I can be persuaded to try harder again.

game aint over yet and we risk having fred mislynch you, me, or ed if we let this game go on long enough

[S-FM Magellan Core]

I do believe that this game has in fact gone off the rails

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

I do believe that this game has in fact gone off the rails

shush child im putting it back on track

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

Which it was absolutely not lmao. He was a non-town. Scum have no nightkill. Survivors usually get lynched even when the scum have a nightkill. At worst, we lost nothing of value (he wasn't town). At best, we eliminated someone who would have sided with scum.

Yeah I mean we've been over that point 100000x before and can agree to disagree.
The point is Lembird went against the majority on that point.

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

Which it was absolutely not lmao. He was a non-town. Scum have no nightkill. Survivors usually get lynched even when the scum have a nightkill. At worst, we lost nothing of value (he wasn't town). At best, we eliminated someone who would have sided with scum.

you're allowed to think the survivor lynch was optimal
i disagreed and was very vocal about that the other day, that's why he brought it up

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

game aint over yet and we risk having fred mislynch you, me, or ed if we let this game go on long enough

How does game length change the chances of any of us getting lynched?

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

I do believe that this game has in fact gone off the rails

Go away the shitposting ended already

[S-FM Billigan Holbird]

i called twat!nick out for being full of shit
i called twinsells out for believing his shitty theoru
i called jan out for being a fencesitter
i called you out for being horribly apathatic
i called bart out on multiple occasions for his reads
i called twinsells out for being manipulative

to say i haven't "shaken the tree" at all is dishonest

Mmmmm, I said you hadn't shaken it much. It didn't have much of an impact, afaik. Hence why people forget about you xD. I'm not saying you did NOTHING, I'm just saying you didn't do that much. Also note that nick was probably town, that Jan was town, that I am town, that Bart is probably town, and that Gollert is probably town... i.e. that all of your glorious actions were against confirmed townies or probable townies lol.

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

How does game length change the chances of any of us getting lynched?

do you really want to be in the final three with fred?

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

I do believe that this game has in fact gone off the rails

Mate we are just beginning to climb out of a 1000 post troll fest and make our first baby steps towards some serious scumhunting again.

Please support us.

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

Mate we are just beginning to climb out of a 1000 post troll fest and make our first baby steps towards some serious scumhunting again.

Please support us.

Hah!
got you to say the s word,
now get to it, chop chop

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

do you really want to be in the final three with fred?

Well it is a reliable way of us winning if I am.

It does however mean I have to remain in this game.

So pros and cons.

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

Guys I am gonna share my last will that I submitted before day start

Its a little negative of Bart but I want you to read it anyway in regards to ED

Spoiler : Wilbird Last Will :

I am a CITIZEN, DAMNIT

I have only one request

Do NOT make Bart this game's "S-FM Punchy" that everyone gives a free pass due to how towny they have felt. I don't know if Bart is stupid town, or obvious scum that tried to make a play when town was in danger of losing the majority.

Quinne (scum) was voting me (a citizen). So here is what the break down most likely looked like the day Joha was lynched:

(Again this is MOST LIKELY, not 100%)

5 town
2 mafia (Quinne + teammate)
1 NE
1 NB

Quinne votes me, at least 2 town (Fred + myself) vote Joha
Joha promises to hammer anyone who gets to L-1 not named Fred and Bart
Which means if I get 4 votes (2 maf, 1 NE, 1 TOWN), then Joha will hammer.

Only 1 town has to vote me and Joha will hammer me if all evils vote me.

BART VOTES ME. WITH QUINNE. THIS PUTS 2 VOTES ON ME. IF BART IS TOWN, NE AND OTHER MAF JUST HAVE TO VOTE ME AND I'M FUCKED

If I am scum and I see this, I push hard to get Marck lynched. Quinne made the push.

The other 2 votes didn't appear. FMPOV this tells me one of these three things are true:

1) Mafia still doesn't know who NE is, Bart isn't maf and maf wasn't sure about making this push. I don't think this is likely, because pretty much everyone town reads Bart. If I'm Quinne's teammate, I see Bart's vote as a town voting another town and I make the push

2) Bart is scum. If he's maf, it makes sense why another vote didn't appear - because they still didn't have a town vote on me to make the swing

3) Ed is scum. He didn't come along in time before day ended to make the push and take advantage of Bart's vote

So yeah. Re-evaluate your read on Bart. Think about it. Maybe he's town. But he's not 100% confirmed town like Fred is. Quinne saying "take Bart to the end" is 60 layers deep of WIFOM bullshit, because either they want to inject Bart into the endgame or they want us to think that they want to inject Bart into the endgame and take him down just like they took me down - seriously, well played Quinne, your scum game is fucking amazing and I want to shake your hand post game (or in dead chat)

The rest of this I wrote in anger as Bart was pushing me, so take it with a grain of salt:

========

Bart's little spat at me trying to keep me alive is annoying af too, look at his stance:

Plan is the same as it was yesterday.
Lynch the Triclaim.

-vote S-FM Quinne

If game is still going tomorrow then we lynch Marlwyn tomorrow.

I read the thread.
If you are undisputed benign neutral then you are hardly our lynch priority
We know there is mafia in the Triclaim. We all agreed the plan was to kill all 3 to ensure it is snuffed out.
If we're lucky the game ends then.

Ok Marlwyn is not co-operating with the widely agreed plan and derailing us into lynching some random benign neut so I am switching my vote to that part of the triclaim.
Lynch Marlwyn today and lynch Quinne tomorrow if the game is still going.

-vote S-FM Marlwyn Janson

We're gonna lynch both mate if the game continues. It literally makes no difference.

Then he FLIP FLOPS and tries to vote me in a situation where 1 mislynch could lose town the majority.


And then Quinne tries to set up Bart for the end game

Everyone should name 1 person to end the game with Fred. For the last 2 players alive. You should name whoever you think is most likely to be citizen.

I vote Bart.

I no longer trust Bart. But it's up to you Fred what you decide to do.

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

Hah!
got you to say the s word,
now get to it, chop chop

which word is the s word?

steps?
some?
serious?
scumhunting?
support?

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

Guys I am gonna share my last will that I submitted before day start

Its a little negative of Bart but I want you to read it anyway in regards to ED

Spoiler : Wilbird Last Will :

Please read

After Im dead I think Ed is a safe lynch

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

Mmmmm, I said you hadn't shaken it much. It didn't have much of an impact, afaik. Hence why people forget about you xD. I'm not saying you did NOTHING, I'm just saying you didn't do that much. Also note that nick was probably town, that Jan was town, that I am town, that Bart is probably town, and that Gollert is probably town... i.e. that all of your glorious actions were against confirmed townies or probable townies lol.

oh yeah i suppose i was meant to call out one of the tprs when we were planning to lynch all of them,
or i suppose i was supposed to do something yesterday, when the day ended so early that i didn't get a chance to post
OH I KNOW
i was supposed to call out the two scum that we found for mechanical reasons! i see, well, i apologize for my mistakes

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

Mmmmm, I said you hadn't shaken it much. It didn't have much of an impact, afaik. Hence why people forget about you xD. I'm not saying you did NOTHING, I'm just saying you didn't do that much. Also note that nick was probably town, that Jan was town, that I am town, that Bart is probably town, and that Gollert is probably town... i.e. that all of your glorious actions were against confirmed townies or probable townies lol.

I find that always being on the wrong side of things (uninformed) is less suspicious than always being on the right side (informed)

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

I find that always being on the wrong side of things (uninformed) is less suspicious than always being on the right side (informed)

This is some Confucius right here.

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

which word is the s word?

steps?
some?
serious?
scumhunting?
support?

scumhunting
i meant scumhunting

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

Wilbirdhunting

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

Im scum

Kill me pls

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

Im scum

Kill me pls

Not buying it.

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

Jesus Christ

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

Jesus Christ

My son.

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

I miss the shitposting already

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

Who do you think should go to the end Wilbird?

[S-FM Gollert Twissell]

but my TOP scum read is twinsells
theyve been nothing but manipulative and counting on the fact that we wont check their isos because its hard as hell to do that on these accounts

Quote a post where I have manipulative.

Bart checked my ISO of Edoua. Did you? Like to check check it is not that hard, just click on the little arrow next to each of the posted stuff to see the context of that quote.

I'm tired of you "calling out" how "scummy" I am when you don't bother quoting any evidence. There's no evidence of me manipulating because I DON'T.



You know what's manipulative? You.
You scumreading me off "bad juju"
You calling my posts dumb by referring to me as a dingus.
You commenting on how little sense I make without even reading the points I make.
Your interactions with me pretty much boil down to ad hominem (against my slot). Talk about the points I bring up.

[S-FM Gollert Twissell]

I miss the shitposting already

I was dying of laughter 20 posts back catching up.

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

I was dying of laughter 20 posts back catching up.

It was so glorious

Barry's code dump made me pee a little