For town invests and protectives, I offer: Invest me and protect Martin. Or invest Martin and protect me. Up to you.
For town invests and protectives, I offer: Invest me and protect Martin. Or invest Martin and protect me. Up to you.
I will not explain reasons why it will be a good choice. Only after you confirm me or him.
As to myself I see 2 scum team comp possible at the moment.
First one is Zedus/bakermir,
I'm pretty sure at least one of them is on the dark side. They both tunneled very hard on Martin, and as Zedus said, he is ready to see Martin be lynched even though he might be a townie. He has his own reason, we probably wont make him change his mind (although I dont like this mindset). Bakermir on the other hand blindly followed Ash's early vote on Martin without saying much reasons, could be seen as an attempt to get a train starting.
The second one is Dallarian/Martin, as I said Dallarian like using non town inclusive pronouns and speech and tried his best to get Martin in a safer spot. Martin could be seen as a misleading townie as Zedus pointed out some post above in that case.
I will try to look more into those possibilites.
Making those kind of post could significantly help us in the next days, everyone should consider trying to make a bind between someone you voted and their possible ally.
Gun to my head, I’d say it’s Zedus/Grakylan.
Who is bakermir? I don't even remember someone with this nickname posted something here
Easy evil strat:
1. Сonvince the town that they need to lynch someone d1 (like Martin did)
2. Join the vote against anyone who will be voted.
That's why so obvious Martin's ally can be hidden, and just vote with him in some times and lynch some townie.
Also, I pointing that Ash Lael voted me after I pretended to be probably town invest. Remember that.
Oh, bakemir is guy with frog face. He is my ally because I called him liar? Great logic, be our mayor, please, lol.
@Auwt explain why are we ally with that bakemir, it's realy very interesting to know
Now, for reasons unrelated to the Zedus wall post, I think it is fair to do this, since way before that he was on my scum list. It'll move him to L-2.
[vote]Zedus[/Zedus]
Except, I want to make use of the time till EOD. Discussion is important to the town. So i wont vote. But when EOD comes, my vote is on him.
[Unvote]Zedus[/Zedus]
Oh LOL @ my typing error with the votes. Rip. But you get the point.
Well I'm glad to see you aren't focusing on me anymore for that post. But if it helps, in my case the only other person I have scumread is Bakermir. So if this game must have 2 mafias, then you're guilty by simply being suspected as scum together. The only connection is both of you vote me, and continue to do so.
Ahahahahhaa, and that's DEFINITELY the mafia strat I described before
No more doubts that's you are just a dumb town. You are evil.
Oh wow, there is literally an ignore list. He probably used it. I did a test.
Lie again, scum. Grakylan did that too, but unvoted for some weak reasons.
You voted me, according to evil strat I explained before.
Your REAL goal is randomly lynch some townie d1 (as I said before), and after you got some votes on other player (me), you joined it. This dumb and easy strat can realy work, because this is newbie game, and it's not so obvious for most of players what you want to do (even after I literally explained that a few posts before you did that, lol).
There is no way for you to be townie. It's 100% evil strat. Well, maybe 99%, 1% is that's you are incredibly dumb.
This at no point involved Grakylan. I was stating the connection between you and Bakermir, not Grakylan. Similarly Ash Lael did vote for me in the past too. But that statement didn't involve him because it was about Bakemir and you voting me. Also, Bakermir hasn't proven how he is not scum to me, and therefore him being the only other scum read other than you means he is likely to be your teammate if you are scum.
@SuperJack
I asked in a previous post if Zedus was okay with personal attacks towards anyone. He has been reading my posts quite clearly, and hasn't responded to it. In the above quote he tries to insult me again, after my question if it was okay. So, I ask you, Is this okay behavior?
There is nothing forcing a player to interact you.
Strong or repeated personal insults are not part of the game. If there is a post that you think is breaching that please use the report system or PM me with a link.
9. Do not personally insult players. Mafia is a game of debates; it is normal to criticize one's play or reads. However, attacking a member with personal insults that are strong or repeated is strictly forbidden.
I'll be honest, around 1 hour or two before Auwt and Dallarian leave for the day (since they're EU), i suggest we lynch then. Otherwise we wont be able to lynch, since lynches require 51% vote, and don't lynch based on leftover votes at the very EOD.
That's part of the plan too. I explained mafia strat they are using now to lynch a townie d1. I hope the town has enough brains to draw conclusions after they will do this. If noone will be lynched (realy best choice for non-evils), strat will probably work (high chance).
So I was away for a while and damn this is so hard to read every post and try to stay active in the game by giving input. Now I just wanted to go with the flow you know, check the latest posts and write something off but hey, here I am trying to leave a comment on every post been made past 12+ hours I have been missing. I still believe this period was quite productive. Especially some people showing their teeth already. I like that.
I also don't want to make it sound like what I am saying is big deal and there is nothing that will make anyone go OOF like with my "trial" and push on Martin earlier.
Obviously, I did not know about the trial mechanic. But now I do thanks to you guys. I believed it works just like in mod but I was wrong.
I apologize to everyone here for that aggression. I admit it did look very scummy and Auwt was the first one to call it out and present it to everyone in his words. He knows this is my first FM game but in his opinion I am a big scum. Just because I appeared to be pushing for lynch and that makes him think I am some evil trying to trick other new players into believing there is "trial".
It is Day One though. So I am still going to take Auwt's aggression with a pinch of salt. I suggest the same for everyone.
Now some comments on what have been said:
This is not the first time you talking about mafia's odds and their perspective. It is Day One. We gather reads and information based on what people say and do through social interactions. We profile each player. You keep talking about power roles and from what I see; you stress so much about mafia's odds and power roles.
that's just yikes
Consider me NA these days
Yeah, just as I start to think I misunderstood you, but then you going aggressive here makes me doubt it all. Still you are almost Town Investigative in many peoples eyes according to your posts and I will go with the flow here.
Hey, I am not the lawyer of Zedus. Hell, I don't even trust the guy a single bit. But some of his posts pointed out some details to Martin's inconsistencies. Like, I believe his attention to detail and effort is good enough for me. If you think Zedus is scum because he joined the vote, then I don't know what to say about that.
What is stopping you from voting me? Your latest posts have been focused on paving a road to lynch against me. I think this is metagaming and thats evil in my eyes.
Still, we have a much more pressing matter here and people seem to turn a blind eye to it;
This was posted at June 25th, 2020, 06:13 PM, slightly after I pushed for a "trial" on him in huge red letters.
Then Auwt opened the can of worms at #154
After this point the attention turned to Zedus and me for reasons.
But then Martin had a big change in mood and words. Joined the bandwagon eventually by mentioning the terrible duo "Zedus-Bakermir" in the following quotes from post #244 at June 26th, 2020, 12:14 AM
Yes, half of my reads are null because it is Day One and I don't want to draw targets on people or manipulate. It was quite early into the game.
This really got me;
Like what the hell? Am I the only one that sees evil in Martin? HOw inaccurate and manipulative a read could be?
Martin, please correct me. Nothing personal but I seriously don't see any good intent in you. Explain your logic on this because I seriously don't see why a townie would be paranoid on Day One.
Well..
Hopefully we get to see more blunders and I might change my vote then. It is going good so far everyone. Thanks again for pointing out my mistake about "trial-lynch" others.
But for now; Martin have been very inconsistent and most of his actions give away bad vibes to me.
I am keeping my vote on him.
Asserting intellectual superiority and insulting everyone isn't what I call team-work that town in FM games often needs...Do you have any reasons for thinking this will convince the other townies to your cause?
On a more serious note, how could insults ever be a towny thing to say?