BananaCucho's read on Frinckles is of frustration and annoyance, not of manipulation, deception, or because of avoidance.
Frinckles put it correctly, Banana paradoxically wanted him dead- not for a scum read.
If I was going to not lynch somebody, the top would be SuperJack, right before he posted a table, he pointed out solid scum-ness on Renegade.
2 is yeah probably you
3 would probably be Frinckles, we'll see. I don't think he's too keen on buddying up with me it seems? but I haven't even given him an hour yet.
Was a little displeased he equated me with Ganelon. Depending if he continues to discredit me, I'll read that post about Banana's town leaders status as a jab at my credibility, which I will not lose.
Also been reading a couple of Varcron's more recent posts. Seeing him in a better light.
Your tone is different from last game. Maybe it's because you're not caught up and hesitant to make reads.
However, you death tunneled Renegade for coasting, but bumped Frinckles to town even though he was coasting on day 1. I realize his rhetoric improved since then, so I won't ding you too hard for now.
Game is pretty afk. Aamirus been missing over 24 hours and so was Banana's slot until now. Noz has been reading(seen them lurking) but not trying to solve game, same with Varcron. SJ also MIA and when he does check in he's like half here because of his spawn. So yeah, once I'm gone, thats 1 less town in a very slow game.
I'm really keen on lynching anyone who didn't have a vote Rene or Gane at EoD yesterday.
The Ganelon late train was rushed and unexpected and the lynch on Renegade was difficult.
The lynch has drawn my attention to a few players.
Firstly, before a Frinkles train appeared it was Renegade on the spotlight.
Banana and Renegade worked together to get a lynch onto Renegade.
Spoiler : Banana n Ren :
Then we have Frinkles, announcing a CFD (As they call it) and causing the End of Day to be a draw between Ren and Ganelon.
Frinckles only started playing after the Pressure Banana had placed onto Frinckles. Only playing when pushed is a major Scum flag.
Not only that, after the Lynch Frinkles has put shade onto Ganelon, who was lynched inplace of Ren.
Ganelons late train was wrong. I don't see how he could claim that Ganelon is being bussed unless Frinckles and Ren was working together. And if they where then this tatic is pointless because Frinkles would be calling out his own scum team and causing a loss.
Ganelons lynch was pushed by frinkles. So if Ganelons is town then its likely frinkles is scum
And if Ganelons is scum then frinkles is scum for pushing on Ganelons and claiming it could be bussing.
Todays lynch should be between Frinkles or BananaCucho. If one is not scum the other surely is.
What do you think scum would do in this situation? Any general strategies I should know about?
I'll start working on my wall now.
You know I would...
but according to the MU article Frinckles posted in the dead chat of Insanity (hope you read it btw)
I am to
1. make a towncore
2. raise the bar every day
Frinckles wants to skip step 2.
And besides, you can only work with people that work with you. If they disagree, then you gotta do it your own way.
Didn't you want to lynch Noz day 1? You should be with me on this.
I don't think I should even have to say it at this point but @theoneceko is basically my biggest town read.
I swear to god if you are scum I will ragequit life.
@theoneceko
(This shit never posted lol It's been in an open tab for like an hour.)
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I'm not applying this:
to him. I'm applying it to me. Clearly, in insanity he was trying to make a towncore before he got lynched. Problem was, he wasn't involved enough day 1 to get himself into it. In fact, he faces the same problem because he wasn't active enough in a crucial part of the game, the start, to execute his strategy.And besides, you can only work with people that work with you. If they disagree, then you gotta do it your own way.
Frinckles clearly isn't working with you, but it doesn't mean I can't.
Where is this Frinckles isn't working with Ceko coming from lol
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I was playing the game before Banana went full wewlad, they just didn't like the way I approached D1. So your major scum flag doesn't make sense.
What also doesn't make sense is you polarizing me and Ganelon on different ends of the spectrum. It's not unfair to suggest that Ganelon's vote on Renegade was earlier and hold less weight than yours or Ceko's, is it? Why am I the villain in your mind for simply pointing this out? He's not being lynched today.
It's more plausible we're both town, hence why I've put him in my townreads. I'm only pointing out something that is worth considering down the line and you're doing mental gymnastics about it lol
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Your quote of Banana is actually a massive misrep. Like, it's so pulled from context.
Banana was pushing for a PL on Frinckles. Banana was FOCUSED on the PL, as in, no other option was available for Banana. If Banana didn't get a PL onto Frinckles, they would replace out, which he did.
That frustration was REAL. Banana was not defending renegade, his directive was extremely clear. I find it odd that you did not manage to see it. Let's look at another quote:
How about this quote? How honest do you think this post is? I think it's fine to attack this slot's play yeah. I mean no offense to Renegade as a player but when he plays day 1, it's absolute garbage. I think Frinckles would have followed through with a bus if he was scum.
I also don't think Frinckles added shade to Ganelon, you're reading that wrong:
This quote is also very genuine and does not pit Frinckles against Ganelon necessarily in a SvT or TvS situation. I believe his quote to be an accurate expression of his thoughts. Note the wording. In accord with the other things Ganelon has said, I think it is more of a TvT interaction.
Frinckles does have a bad habit of burning his own town support. See last game with insanity. More importantly to take a page from the forum mafia champion, your read of Ganelon/Frinckles is a
Pre-Flip Association.
mmm okay? So what is it?
tone?
mood?
voting pattern?
something else?
Like I had to reconsider my vote on naz because while she seemed disingenuous with the tone she puts out (which is mad, and a little ticked off all the time) it might be hard to keep up when cooperation becomes more useful than skepticism.. which I would argue is actually right now, but maybe I can let it slide for now.
SuperJack you were supposed to reread Varcron.
lol i'm mad because i'm being piled on, first Frinckles pushing me for an argument that is false, then Varcron and you. i can't even push on some other slots(this included yours) because they've been afk. this game is just frustrating asf.
@Gyrlander needs to replace @aamirus shes been gone over 24 hours, a modkill would be nice but there is a chance he can't because she might be scum
i'll be home later to read all these other wallposts, also everyone in the USA pls be safe also fuck this country
My ISO on Frinckles. It's split into day 1 SOD & MOD (start-of-day and middle-of-day), day 1 EOD, and day 2:
Day 1 SOD & MOD:
Scum!frinckles as town leader would mostly lynch town within his null reads. I don't like how vague he was here.
He provided no reason for this vote. Neither did rene, who voted her forty minutes earlier: https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...746#post864746
Frinckles's vote was after I wrote a wall on aamirus. Since this was the first time rene and frinckles voted this game, I suspected they were scum sheeping my vote. I was right about rene and I'm pretty certain about Frinckles too.
You and rene pushed aamirus. Also, SJ is my highest townread.
He thinks aami is scum based on her meta. Meta arguments generally suck though. When's the last time she played anyway?
Day 1 EOD (this is where things get really interesting):
Pocket attempt #1
Pocket attempt #2
He starts laying a "scum trap" for me here.
His first sign of discomfort at rene's train, who was L-2 at the time.
VOTE-SWITCH TIME!!!!! This puts rene and gane at L-3.
This is what I mean by "scum trap." Good thing I realized this quickly, since I pointed this out in the post IMMEDIATELY after.
On day 1?
Of course he would want either of these options since they keep rene alive.
More scumpainting. As I mentioned, my quick response to his trap is why he didn't pursue this.
Pocket attempt #3. Nullreading lurkers is fine, but towncoring lurkers is ridiculous.
Wrong.
I don't understand why she's in the orange while you and gane are green?
You posted 16 times after I left. Are you trying to assume town leader status in my absence?
Your box, not mine. Right now, I slightly townread varc.
Weird move. You think changing your avatar to a cute girl will get you townread?
Giving a reads list isn't the same as focusing every player. The only person you pushed so far is naz.
Meta reads WEAK.
One more note on frinckles:
His townread of nozbug is TMI confident.