S-FM 300: Black Flag Nightless [LADDER] GAME THREAD

[naz]

How do we change that?? Start a toxic shitfest by tunneling?!?!? OwO

i'm tunneled on frinck OWO

[BananaCucho]

How do we change that?? Start a toxic shitfest by tunneling?!?!? OwO

YES

NOW VOTE PRINGLES

[Marshmallow Marshall]

How do we change that [the fact that there's nothing to analyze early on]?? Start a toxic shitfest by tunneling?!?!? OwO

Lol. I'm probably not touching Ceko this game.

[theoneceko]

I'm disliking coasting more and more, even if it's early. It just reduces the amount of pressure potential scum have to deal with. I don't see why we don't start by powerwolfing like crazy. It causes discussion, which is invaluable in this game.

[theoneceko]

You can powerwolf like me lol

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[theoneceko]

Goodnight every1.
UwU

[SuperJack]

Please may I ask that people only post if it has valid content. Spamming or out of game context is hard work and I've got an I'll child atm. So I don't want to waste my time scrolling through pages of civ6 or symbol spams.

[theoneceko]

Please may I ask that people only post if it has valid content. Spamming or out of game context is hard work and I've got an I'll child atm. So I don't want to waste my time scrolling through pages of civ6 or symbol spams.

Roger chief. This is one of the few places where I'll refrain from shitposting.

Sincerely,
UwU ceko. OWO

[DJarJar]

Roger chief. This is one of the few places where I'll refrain from shitposting.

Sincerely,
UwU ceko. OWO

Don’t be serious or ganelon will suspect you. Don’t be a troll or SuperJack will suspect you. These are trying times to be a scum

[SuperJack]

People who need to do shit:

@Varcron your posts are fluff. 2 post and you deliver 0. So I have a question for you, which player do you think you will struggle reading the most?
I think I will struggle reading Frinckles. I haven't had much interaction with them and since they are a developer I feel as if there is a lot about them and how they play that I don't know about.

@Frinkles & @Renegade need to wake up.

[Renegade]

People who need to do shit:

@Varcron your posts are fluff. 2 post and you deliver 0. So I have a question for you, which player do you think you will struggle reading the most?
I think I will struggle reading Frinckles. I haven't had much interaction with them and since they are a developer I feel as if there is a lot about them and how they play that I don't know about.

@Frinkles & @Renegade need to wake up.

I'm here give me some time to catch up THANKS

[theoneceko]

I'm here give me some time to catch up THANKS

Your avatarchagngedUWU

Also, welcUM, uVu

[Varcron]

People who need to do shit:

@Varcron your posts are fluff. 2 post and you deliver 0. So I have a question for you, which player do you think you will struggle reading the most?
I think I will struggle reading Frinckles. I haven't had much interaction with them and since they are a developer I feel as if there is a lot about them and how they play that I don't know about.

@Frinkles & @Renegade need to wake up.

I think my struggle for reads will be Frinkles, I can never seem to get a good read off early game with him.

Also sorry for not posting much, I was busy yesterday.

[SuperJack]

My thoughts on the past 5 hours. All those who have posted during that time are confirmed town.

[naz]

renegade was reading the thread then left? smh

[Renegade]

renegade was reading the thread then left? smh

OMG I know I'm popular but damn!

[SuperJack]

renegade was reading the thread then left? smh

That's just as helpful as you posting that.

[naz]

That's just as helpful as you posting that.

well if he didn't come back it would have let people know he was lurking :3

[Renegade]

So far treko is leaning town to me since they are engaged and not trying to coast the whole game (though he deserved the win the last game cuz town let him do that but w/e) but maybe he rolled a goonie and realized that strat can't work again, not sure, but I'm thinking geko is town ATM.

[naz]

So far treko is leaning town to me since they are engaged and not trying to coast the whole game (though he deserved the win the last game cuz town let him do that but w/e) but maybe he rolled a goonie and realized that strat can't work again, not sure, but I'm thinking geko is town ATM.

who is treko and who is geko?

& same my vote isn't goofy or troll
i'd lynch frinckles

[Renegade]

who is treko and who is geko?

& same my vote isn't goofy or troll
i'd lynch frinckles

trecko = treecko = geko = oneceko

[Marshmallow Marshall]

renegade was reading the thread then left? smh

Useless speak-up against Renegade that has pretty much zero weight

That's just as helpful as you posting that.

Superjack points it out

well if he didn't come back it would have let people know he was lurking :3

Mhmm... perhaps? I don't exclude this being SvS (with the knowledge that Renegade was scum).

who is treko and who is geko?

& same my vote isn't goofy or troll
i'd lynch frinckles

Same for this post, it could very well be SvS: it's an interaction, but... that's it.

[Renegade]

As some others have pointed out, the nature of the setup dictates that more information will be gained by votes rather than other means.

This makes these goofy troll votes very unhelpful and a distraction. Ugh

[BananaCucho]

As some others have pointed out, the nature of the setup dictates that more information will be gained by votes rather than other means.

This makes these goofy troll votes very unhelpful and a distraction. Ugh

Theres nothing goofy or troll about my vote.

[DJarJar]

Fine then let’s begin

-vote Frinckles

[BananaCucho]

I wont unvote Pringles until I get a claim outta him

[Renegade]

For my own edification and to understand the save, I ran the probabilities of random lynches every day and this is in fact set up to be a 50% chance win for either side with random lynches.

Now of course, that is probably not the best approach as we can gather much more information to inform our lynch decisions so they are not random, especially basing it off of the d1 voting patterns. I wonder if there is some kind of bayesian statistics we could apply here... hmmmmmmmm

[theoneceko]

For my own edification and to understand the save, I ran the probabilities of random lynches every day and this is in fact set up to be a 50% chance win for either side with random lynches.

Now of course, that is probably not the best approach as we can gather much more information to inform our lynch decisions so they are not random, especially basing it off of the d1 voting patterns. I wonder if there is some kind of bayesian statistics we could apply here... hmmmmmmmm

If town has natural advantage over scum, then you can bump town's % of winning even higher.

[DJarJar]

people always bring up the win percentage of random voting and I wonder, how would you accomplish random voting anyway? Wouldn’t you have to take into account the percent chance the person who is chosen to pick the random targets is a scum?

[Renegade]

I'm not suggesting it by any means at all. I'm just saying it we were to take all the names and drop it into R or something and produce all possible lynch orders and select one at random, there is a 50/50 shot the list of players (player 1, player 2, ...., player 10) would end up in a win for either side.

Now of course this game can't go past day 5 from what I gather, in fact the game could end by EOD2 with two goonie lynches in a row. All I'm saying is it points to a balanced setup and I found it interesting enough to share.

[Ganelon]

why are 3 people voting a guy who hasn’t even posted? In all likelihood he didn’t know the game had started... besides, if he’s actually NOT HERE, he will be replaced by one of our 10,000,000 reserves

[Renegade]

why are 3 people voting a guy who hasn’t even posted? In all likelihood he didn’t know the game had started... besides, if he’s actually NOT HERE, he will be replaced by one of our 10,000,000 reserves

This is what I'm saying about the GOOFY troll votes obfuscating things for us.

[Ganelon]

This is what I'm saying about the GOOFY troll votes obfuscating things for us.

Yeah, I’m not following an activity policy lynch, especially not on Frinckles. Efe ain’t in the game, either, so let’s not policy lynch anyone, please

[BananaCucho]

Yeah, I’m not following an activity policy lynch, especially not on Frinckles. Efe ain’t in the game, either, so let’s not policy lynch anyone, please

I'm not policy lynching him. He's scum. I'm the host role. I know this.

[naz]

Don’t be serious or ganelon will suspect you. Don’t be a troll or SuperJack will suspect you. These are trying times to be a scum

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyEBeHvNJvE

why are 3 people voting a guy who hasn’t even posted? In all likelihood he didn’t know the game had started... besides, if he’s actually NOT HERE, he will be replaced by one of our 10,000,000 reserves

he had to confirm the PM, so he knew the game was starting. he was whining for game to start and now its here WOW but he has time to play other games than come check in. he's a threat as scum. it's not a troll vote, it's day 1 and someones gotta go. it's not an activity policy lynch lmao i'm just game to lynch him for benefit of town

[theoneceko]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyEBeHvNJvE



he had to confirm the PM, so he knew the game was starting. he was whining for game to start and now its here WOW but he has time to play other games than come check in. he's a threat as scum. it's not a troll vote, it's day 1 and someones gotta go. it's not an activity policy lynch lmao i'm just game to lynch him for benefit of town

Good point, I didn't realize that.

[Ganelon]

Good point, I didn't realize that.

I received one as well and was unaware the game had started.
Aside from that, why does AFK’ing make him scum? Frinckles was pushed for a very similar reason last game and he thought he was town. It just indicates he’s gotten busier.

[theoneceko]

I received one as well and was unaware the game had started.
Aside from that, why does AFK’ing make him scum? Frinckles was pushed for a very similar reason last game and he thought he was town. It just indicates he’s gotten busier.

Frinckles read this thread but hasn't responded yet.
Again, two of the votes on him were troll...

[theoneceko]

why are 3 people voting a guy who hasn’t even posted? In all likelihood he didn’t know the game had started... besides, if he’s actually NOT HERE, he will be replaced by one of our 10,000,000 reserves

Scum could see Frinckles as dangerous town, but I think it's more likely town see Frinckles as dangerous scum. I've heard legends about his scum gameplay.

However, activity policy lynch is pretty ridiculous, I agree. I do want him to talk though.

[Ganelon]

Btw this goes without saying. Do not, even for a second think that scum wouldn’t bus in this setuo. The benefits of bussing in this setup are of truly monumental proportion. According to, I believe, the MafiaScum website, scum LOVE the hardbus in this setup.

[Ganelon]

Man hasn’t posted. He is AFK, what does his lynch tell us? Nothing.

[BananaCucho]

Man hasn’t posted. He is AFK, what does his lynch tell us? Nothing.

Why you defending him so hard? Let him come defend himself

[Ganelon]

If he is genuinely AFK he will be replaced, if not, he’ll come and interact with us. Since when is Frinckles scum meta to AFK?

[naz]

If he is genuinely AFK he will be replaced, if not, he’ll come and interact with us. Since when is Frinckles scum meta to AFK?

no one said his scum meta is to afk ? l o fucking L

[Ganelon]

no one said his scum meta is to afk ? l o fucking L

So then why are you voting him?

[Marshmallow Marshall]

why are 3 people voting a guy who hasn’t even posted? In all likelihood he didn’t know the game had started... besides, if he’s actually NOT HERE, he will be replaced by one of our 10,000,000 reserves

This is what I'm saying about the GOOFY troll votes obfuscating things for us.

Yeah, I’m not following an activity policy lynch, especially not on Frinckles. Efe ain’t in the game, either, so let’s not policy lynch anyone, please

Btw this goes without saying. Do not, even for a second think that scum wouldn’t bus in this setuo. The benefits of bussing in this setup are of truly monumental proportion. According to, I believe, the MafiaScum website, scum LOVE the hardbus in this setup.

You barely posted, but you were serious the entire time that you were in the game. The two are not mutually exclusive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyEBeHvNJvE



he had to confirm the PM, so he knew the game was starting. he was whining for game to start and now its here WOW but he has time to play other games than come check in. he's a threat as scum. it's not a troll vote, it's day 1 and someones gotta go. it's not an activity policy lynch lmao i'm just game to lynch him for benefit of town

Man hasn’t posted. He is AFK, what does his lynch tell us? Nothing.

If he is genuinely AFK he will be replaced, if not, he’ll come and interact with us. Since when is Frinckles scum meta to AFK?

Yeah ok, I rescind my read on Mag, he just looked bad because of a recent mistake; his D1 looks good. He's defending the AFK townie and generating discussion by creating "sides" on the policy lynch stuff; he takes the leadership of the "No policy lynch" side.

On the other hand, all of Naz's posts are either meh or scummy to me, from what I've seen. "You're probably getting lynched today rip" seemed agenda-ish to me, like it was a long-planned mislynch (correct me if I'm wrong on that, people who aren't naz), and the policy lynch post on Frinckles during D1 is also quite crappy. No town tells yet.

-vote naz

[theoneceko]

Yeah ok, I rescind my read on Mag, he just looked bad because of a recent mistake; his D1 looks good. He's defending the AFK townie and generating discussion by creating "sides" on the policy lynch stuff; he takes the leadership of the "No policy lynch" side.

On the other hand, all of Naz's posts are either meh or scummy to me, from what I've seen. "You're probably getting lynched today rip" seemed agenda-ish to me, like it was a long-planned mislynch (correct me if I'm wrong on that, people who aren't naz), and the policy lynch post on Frinckles during D1 is also quite crappy. No town tells yet.

-vote naz

THANKYOU for the quotes. I quote stuff a lot and wonder if they make my arguments confusing. However, I enjoyed reading your walls, so maybe my walls aren't bad.

[theoneceko]

Yeah ok, I rescind my read on Mag, he just looked bad because of a recent mistake; his D1 looks good. He's defending the AFK townie and generating discussion by creating "sides" on the policy lynch stuff; he takes the leadership of the "No policy lynch" side.

On the other hand, all of Naz's posts are either meh or scummy to me, from what I've seen. "You're probably getting lynched today rip" seemed agenda-ish to me, like it was a long-planned mislynch (correct me if I'm wrong on that, people who aren't naz), and the policy lynch post on Frinckles during D1 is also quite crappy. No town tells yet.

-vote naz

Looked at this again, it's giving me second thoughts of keeping naz in me towncore.uWu

Where did naz say this tho??oVo

[naz]

Looked at this again, it's giving me second thoughts of keeping naz in me towncore.uWu

Where did naz say this tho??oVo

I did say it

[Ganelon]

No. This setup is deceptive. Scum wins this setup a lot more often than you’d expect based on random lynching. Do not rely on statistics.