Day 6 - Last Legs

[Fyodor]

The Doctor fyodor keeps referring to, I promise you, is a medic for the Germans. This should be the Bolsheviks and Towns priority, is finding that Medic.

Again, no I got a rep message saying I was being healed. I disregarded it. I got a rep message again saying I'm one of these 4 people who should i heal. I disregarded it. I'm not saying there is a doctor, I'm saying I'm being repped by someone claiming to be a doctor.

If you're so smart based on all this great information you've shared then you must certainly know how the game works, yet you completely disregard the Bolshevik rules as if you're playing dumb.

There is 1 Stalin + 2 Proletariats at the very least, but no more than 4 Proletariats + Stalin. With the very small amount of peasents left in the game I'd assume they'd have about 3 of the last 5-6 remaining.

As a town we're all grouping around to kill the Bolsheviks because they can outnumber everyone with a bad night, but if we can stop Stalin then we can focus completely on the Germans as the Bolsheviks will be powerless. We've also suggested killing the German General, but you're ignoring that information and acting like I'm the bad guy. I like how you say Leonid is working with me as a German. Does that mean Viteslav is working with me as a german? What about the dead Jailor? The Actress? All these town roles must totally be German with me correct?

We're focusing on winning the game.

My biggest question: Why would the witch control the anarchist, instead of giving herself a gun? I mean, the gunsmith is so obvious, that one doesn't make sense. Also, why would she target anarchist to kill a bolshevik, instead of a townie, when all the witch has to do to win is see the town lose.... THAT'S what doesn't make sense

Tatyana was killed by the Anarchist. I confirmed with Oops.

Moisey was killed by the German

[Svetlana]

Also, why would she target anarchist to kill a bolshevik, instead of a townie, when all the witch has to do to win is see the town lose.... THAT'S what doesn't make sense

The Anarchist killed Tatyana. The Germans killed Moisey. The Anarchist had Moisey in his death note. Thus, the witch sent the Anarchist to kill a town, Tatyana.

[Fyodor]

I am quite certain that Germans lie in Leonid, Prokofi, and Ania.

How the hell is Leonid a German? He's giving me armor he can not be a German.

[Svetlana]

How the hell is Leonid a German? He's giving me armor he can not be a German.

Or he's the Medic, and you're the General, and by armor you mean heals.

[Viktoria]

Oh. Huh.... still though, why wouldn't the witch steal a gun for him/herself?

[Svetlana]

Oh. Huh.... still though, why wouldn't the witch steal a gun for him/herself?

Why steal a one time use gun you have to wait to use tomorrow when you have unlimited bullets starting tonight?

[Viktoria]

Then why not kill the gunsmith? or the armorsmith? or the doctor?

[Viktoria]

Tatyana was killed by the Anarchist. I confirmed with Oops.

Moisey was killed by the German

This reminds me, we're missing a kill aren't we?

[Fyodor]

Or he's the Medic, and you're the General, and by armor you mean heals.

Nope, actual armor that I wear each night. Don't tell me about my night actions eh?

You can assume all you want, but we fit perfectly into the hidden town slots where no other town role can be. No others have claimed other than a doctor through a secret rep message. I've had all my allies that are town support me and an anarchist is going to try to bring me down? I lol'd.

This reminds me, we're missing a kill aren't we?

Yeah, the Bolsheviks got attack was either blocked or healed. I wasn't attacked last night.

[Viktoria]

Is there a possibility the Bolsheviks didn't have enough members for a kill?

[Fyodor]

Is there a possibility the Bolsheviks didn't have enough members for a kill?

0% chance. They had enough N4 to kill someone and didn't lose someone until Moisey died this morning. Tonight they might not have enough, but they 100% had an attack available to use on someone.

[Viktoria]

If the Bolsheviks do not have enough people to perform a kill due to the night actions, can they still perform a kill?

For example: They had three members, but Moisey died and now they only have two members. Does their kill still go through?

[Viktoria]

Why oh why did Tatyanna not leave a list of who she blocked :'(

[Viktoria]

fyodor can you stop sending me blank reps?

[Fyodor]

?? I haven't sent you a rep all game.

[Fyodor]

The Bolsheviks attacked Leonid and he was healed by the doctor.

How's that Medic theory workin out for you Svet?

[Viteslav]

Svet, I'm curious about your win condition (assuming you are Anarchist).

I'm also drunk (and maybe a bit high), and thus not going to try to get anything done tonight.

But:

If the Anarchist kills the General at night (since both Nicholas and Lenin died at night as well, and his win condition is thus fulfilled), does the game end? If not, is he/she free to side with whoever for the remainder of the game, assured of a win?

If the second question gets a yes answer, Svetlana, are you the Anarchist? If so, I will not vote to lynch you if you side with the town and help us eliminate the Bolsheviks and Germans at night.

[Fyodor]

If the second question gets a yes answer, Svetlana, are you the Anarchist? If so, I will not vote to lynch you if you side with the town and help us eliminate the Bolsheviks and Germans at night.

He's "not in control" of his night actions. That'll be his excuse until the witch dies.

[Kirill]

He's "not in control" of his night actions. That'll be his excuse until the witch dies.

Not only this. The Anarchist already has proven that he does not wish to be ordered around. However, it does appear that there may be two witches due to the Anarchist's death note.

[Fyodor]

I'll say it again, but I really don't think both witches hid forever and then just came out at the end of the game to witch me AND Svetlana. He's smart enough to realize that if he could kill Tatyana without the town thinking he did it himself he'd be in the clear. When Viktoria asked "Why didn't the witch use the gunsmith?" Svetlana replied "Why waste time waiting for the gun when he has unlimited bullets right now?" Trying to make it seem more likely that the witch would have chosen him over everyone else, but I know the witch visited me and either made me target Stalin or made me target myself.

Svetlana finally stopped trying to cover up that he wasn't the anarchist by claiming that he knew what happened to him and that he was witched and that he made the anarchist death note. Prior to all this he was still trying to discredit me by acting like he wasn't the Anarchist. He's acting extremely aggressive toward me and is calling the town as a whole out for trying to lynch Stalin because he knows he will lose if Stalin is lynched. Plain and simple.

[Svetlana]

I'll say it again, but I really don't think both witches hid forever and then just came out at the end of the game to witch me AND Svetlana. He's smart enough to realize that if he could kill Tatyana without the town thinking he did it himself he'd be in the clear. When Viktoria asked "Why didn't the witch use the gunsmith?" Svetlana replied "Why waste time waiting for the gun when he has unlimited bullets right now?" Trying to make it seem more likely that the witch would have chosen him over everyone else, but I know the witch visited me and either made me target Stalin or made me target myself.

Svetlana finally stopped trying to cover up that he wasn't the anarchist by claiming that he knew what happened to him and that he was witched and that he made the anarchist death note. Prior to all this he was still trying to discredit me by acting like he wasn't the Anarchist. He's acting extremely aggressive toward me and is calling the town as a whole out for trying to lynch Stalin because he knows he will lose if Stalin is lynched. Plain and simple.

Wow dude, what reality are you living in?

I never "stopped trying to cover up" anything. My habbits have not changed. I never said I was witched nor that I wrote the death note.

I wasn't trying to discredit you by acting like I'm not the Anarchist. That's entirely, 100% presumptive. The fact is, either there are 2 witches or you're lying.

I don't know how you pulled ALL THAT from that little. You sir, are full of shit in so many ways. If you're town, you're disgusting.

[Svetlana]

And what motivation would the Anarchist have for killing Tatyana over anyone else? There was no reason for Tatyana to RB the Anarchist as the Anarchist doesn't need ANYONE dead but Germans.

You're argument for why the Anarchist would want to kill Tatyana is still void of ANY substance.

[Fyodor]

And what motivation would the Anarchist have for killing Tatyana over anyone else? There was no reason for Tatyana to RB the Anarchist as the Anarchist doesn't need ANYONE dead but Germans.

You're argument for why the Anarchist would want to kill Tatyana is still void of ANY substance.

She could block him after the German General gets lynched thus stopping him from being able to fulfill his win condition.

Again, anarchist is unstoppable. You assume the anarchist is witched, you claim to be witched, you have all these fake underlying messages "The anarchist feels insulted!", and you're trying to push blame off our lynch targets onto me for some reason.

[Svetlana]

She could block him after the German General gets lynched thus stopping him from being able to fulfill his win condition.

Again, anarchist is unstoppable. You assume the anarchist is witched, you claim to be witched, you have all these fake underlying messages "The anarchist feels insulted!", and you're trying to push blame off our lynch targets onto me for some reason.

I never claimed to be witched. I said "don't inform me of my night actions." that's not a claim. I also never said "the anarchist feels insulted", I stated that your assumption that the Anarchist is stupid enough to fuck his alliances would, quite obviously, be a slight to his intelligence.

I'm also not trying to "push blame" off or on to anyone. What I see is a dude that keeps twisting things that I've said to mean what he wants them to mean. Anyone can go back and look at what I've said and compare them to what you keep saying that I said. They'll see the same thing I do: someone distorting reality.

If you want to lynch a Bolshevik, go right ahead, I'm not stopping you. But that doesn't take away from the fact that Leonid lied nonstop on day 3, and you've been going at it all of day 5. You guys are working VERY close to one another. And everything you say about him being an armor smith can very easily be interchangable with medic and other mob member.

In fact, you could very well be the mobs lookout, given that Leodin was using a faulty lookout claim on me day 3. You did a good job convincing everyone it was actually based on invest intel, but I'm seeing a Spotter in you, now.

[Fyodor]

How the hell do you come to these conclusions? I said you visited Tatyana, how the fuck is that right in anyway shape or form? Did you visit Larisa? No? So why would that make me assume you're anarchist. I made that entire thing up to make Alexei shut the fuck up. I'd been talking with Leo since day 2 after I saw him as Armorsmith. I took a chance and left in my will who he was and also messaged someone that if my will didn't end in a certain phrase then Leo killed me(Forger/cleaned will) that person happened to be Tatyana who trusted me all game as well.

The Jailor trusted me, the gunsmith trusts me, the armorsmith trusts me, a doctor apparently trusts me, and an anarchist doesn't. I'll be fine without your vote. If you're not Anarchist, then claim a role because everything is taken you're scum and if you're not an anarchist you must be Stalin right?

[Svetlana]

How the hell do you come to these conclusions? I said you visited Tatyana, how the fuck is that right in anyway shape or form?

It wasn't, because you got an incorrect PM from the GM saying I was the one to visit her, only to later discover that it wasn't actually me, it was... Arkadi? Or whoever. Are you now denying obtaining the faulty intel from night 2? Because you seemed to make it pretty clear that you were the one to get that incorrect PM.

[Fyodor]

It wasn't, because you got an incorrect PM from the GM saying I was the one to visit her, only to later discover that it wasn't actually me, it was... Arkadi? Or whoever. Are you now denying obtaining the faulty intel from night 2? Because you seemed to make it pretty clear that you were the one to get that incorrect PM.

It was night 3. I made Leo say that you were the only one to visit Tatyana on N2. The N2 was a lie. The N3 invest on Tatyana was a mixup because I really investigated you. Remember, I was jailed N2. I couldn't check anyone that night.

N1 - Armorsmith
N2 - Jailed
N3 - Tatyana -> Whoops Svetlana - Anarchist
N4 - Roleblocked
N5 - Witched - Spy/Invest/Stalin

[Leonid]

Players remaining

Leonid
Evgheni
Ilya
Andrei
Viteslav
Prokofi
Prokhor
Fyodor
Sacha
Peotr
Ania
Vasili
Viktoria
Jelena
Svetlana
Kirill
Arkadi

Vote distribution

Living players:
3 Germans
2-5 Bolsheviks
1 Anarchist
3-6 Russians
4 Hidden Any (assume 2 Neutrals and 2 Russians)

Total votes:
5-8 votes for Russians
3 votes for Germans
2-5 votes for Bolsheviks
3 votes for Neutrals (Anarchist + 2 Hidden Any)

Conclusion: We need votes from non-Russian to lynch

Activity list

Active:
Leonid
Fyodor
Svetlana
Arkadi

Semi-active:
Prokofi
Viktoria
Viteslav

Lurking:
Evgheni
Ilya
Vasili
Jelena
Kirill
Andrei

AFKers:
Prokhor
Sacha
Peotr
Ania

Sudden change in post activity (for Bolsheviks hunt only)
Jelena
Sacha
Evgheni

Denying receiving rep from Lenin (German or Bolsheviks hunt)
Kirill (since admitted)
Moisey (Bolshevik)
Vasili

Voting pattern history (mainly German hunt)
need time to type, will post tomorrow

[Forum Mafia GM]

Updated with Tatyana's will

[Leonid]

Stupid system logged me out after I typed an essay. To cut it short.

1) I'm healed. I got rep from supposed doctor. I now look like General.

2) If we got two witches means that there is no Arsonist/Martyr. I disagree with getting Anarchist today. I hope to kill Stalin to get back votes but I don't know who is Stalin yet. I understand that we need to reduce KPN to 2.

3) We need to kill the Medic. So that we can kill General at night. If not, we need double shots to kill him. With help of Anarchist or after witches are dead.

4) I disagree with Viteslav. Anarchist will not join town if we lynch General because Anarchist will join Bolsheviks after Stalin is killed. Anarchist will most likely make a deal with Bolsheviks and kill us first.

[Leonid]

5) I won't bother staying up past midnight anymore. Ask me questions and I'll try to answer them within 12 hours. Again, make sure to identify a lynch target but don't lynch and end the day too early.

[Forum Mafia GM]

Anarchist will only join bolsheviks if General is lynched and Stalin is dead.

[Leonid]

Anarchist will only join bolsheviks if General is lynched and Stalin is dead.

I know. What I meant was Anarchist will want to make sure Bolsheviks is at the leading position before replacing Stalin. Win-win situation for Anarchist and Stalin.

Stalin and Lenin will still win if Anarchist join Bolsheviks after they are dead, don't they?

[Forum Mafia GM]

If the Bolsheviks do not have enough people to perform a kill due to the night actions, can they still perform a kill?

For example: They had three members, but Moisey died and now they only have two members. Does their kill still go through?

Yes.

If the Anarchist kills the General at night (since both Nicholas and Lenin died at night as well, and his win condition is thus fulfilled), does the game end? If not, is he/she free to side with whoever for the remainder of the game, assured of a win?

The game does not end. The anarchist is free to side with whoever they want, but they lose immunity and night kill ability.

Stalin and Lenin will still win if Anarchist join Bolsheviks after they are dead, don't they?

Yes.

[Prokofi]

if Moisey's LW was true, then:

Journalist(Proletariat) [JELENA] [converted N2] - no articles on days 3/4/5
Peasant(Proletariat) [converted N1] - there was Bolshevik death on D3
Peasant(Proletariat) [converted N3] - there was death on D4
Peasant(Proletariat) [converted N5] - Moisey [DEAD]
Peasant/Proletariat [converted N4???] - ???

Tatyana LW said she blocked Jelena, and no Bolshevik kill.

I completely believe that Jelena WAS a journalist......turned proletariat.

the Bolsheviks likely sent Jelena to kill on N3,N4,N5(Blocked)

This explains why there was no interview on D3,D4,D5,D6(today)

-vote Jelena

[Prokofi]

if Moisey's LW was true, then:

Journalist(Proletariat) [JELENA] [converted N2] - no articles on days 3/4/5
Peasant(Proletariat) [converted N3] - there was Bolshevik death on D4
Peasant(Proletariat) [converted N5] - Moisey [DEAD]
Peasant/Proletariat [converted N4???] - ???
Peasant - no Bolshevik death on D2

Tatyana LW said she blocked Jelena, and no Bolshevik kill.

I completely believe that Jelena WAS a journalist......turned proletariat.

the Bolsheviks likely sent Jelena to kill on N3,N4,N5(Blocked)

This explains why there was no interview on D3,D4,D5,D6(today)

-vote Jelena

fixed.

[Svetlana]

if Moisey's LW was true, then:

Journalist(Proletariat) [JELENA] [converted N2] - no articles on days 3/4/5
Peasant(Proletariat) [converted N1] - there was Bolshevik death on D3
Peasant(Proletariat) [converted N3] - there was death on D4
Peasant(Proletariat) [converted N5] - Moisey [DEAD]
Peasant/Proletariat [converted N4???] - ???

Tatyana LW said she blocked Jelena, and no Bolshevik kill.

I completely believe that Jelena WAS a journalist......turned proletariat.

the Bolsheviks likely sent Jelena to kill on N3,N4,N5(Blocked)

This explains why there was no interview on D3,D4,D5,D6(today)

-vote Jelena

I was interviewed night 4. There is an article at the start of day five. Look for the red and yellow colors.

[Viktoria]

Semi-active:
Prokofi
Viktoria
Viteslav

How am I semi-active when i post more than you do?

[Svetlana]

How am I semi-active when i post more than you do?

Viktoria, I'm still waiting for the back up claim to "Svet is German." Even yesterday, you mentioned some slip I made. Still waiting for that slip reference, or are you STILL full of shit?

[Viktoria]

Viktoria, I'm still waiting for the back up claim to "Svet is German." Even yesterday, you mentioned some slip I made. Still waiting for that slip reference, or are you STILL full of shit?

Lol that was me trying to prod you for info. I love how everyone adores using, "full of shit" when someone goes off on a tangent

[Viktoria]

inb4, "Lame excuse" but with more wording and more insulting me

[Prokofi]

but the journalist failed to publish on day 3 and 4.
day 5= Svet
day6 = Blocked

the Journalist got converted N2 and killed on N3 and N4

the Bolsheviks failed to convert N1 95% ( 5% is blocked/shot wrong dude/moronic)
the Bolsheviks got the journalist N2 99.9%
the Bolsheviks recruited on peasant N3 50%
the Bolsheviks probably failed to recruit N4
the Bolsheviks recruited Moisey N5

Could the Bolsheviks have recruited on Night 4 ?(the night Lenin got jailed)
Were the Bolsheviks forced to recruit with Lenin from Night 1-3?

[Forum Mafia GM]

Could the Bolsheviks have recruited on Night 4 ?(the night Lenin got jailed)

No.

Were the Bolsheviks forced to recruit with Lenin from Night 1-3?

What exactly do you mean by "forced to"?

[Fyodor]

Jelena is most likely clean only because Leonid was attacked and healed.

Can the bolsheviks send a proletariet/journalist for a kill?

[Forum Mafia GM]

Can the bolsheviks send a proletariet/journalist for a kill?

Yes

[Fyodor]

Alright so it doesn't stop Jelena from being Stalin completely, but it lessens the chance I guess.

[Viteslav]

No defense from Evgheni yet. No response to my speculation.

Looks like his strategy is to be completely inactive and hopefully be forgotten. Not happening.

vote Evgheni

Also, Fyo, Jelena is obviously not Stalin. She has had at least 1 rep power since before I got that rep. Stalin is one of the lurkers with 0 rep power. That's how the scum have been playing - lurking to the point of not posting for multiple days at a time. It's really, really fucking fail, if you ask me.

[Viteslav]

Also, Fyo, the Anarchist ONLY has to kill the General to win. I suggest leaving him/her/Svetlana alone since killing the General will only help us.

[Fyodor]

vote Evgheni

I'll see what he has to say. Who should I be using my shot on?

[Andrei]

God damn it! FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
how 2 increazors our repzors? maybe i need to le post more.