Pssh, I'm not half-reading. I just think I cannot trust you and I don't have the map of feedbacks in my mind, sorry for not having a godlike memory of things I have to read quickly because of the amount of posts... After a read of what you all said, it's very likely that we have a ritual killer.
And thanks to Noz and Light for their info.
My feedback: I targeted Sen and Yzb25 last night. My feedback was that I had checked Sen and Marshmallow Marshall, and that they came up as Sleuth and Investigator (don't know who is what). That's why I was pretty sure my feedback was legit. Therefore, Sen (now Noz_Bugz) is confirmed Investigator.
I also thought Yzb was SK who had tried to attack me, but ended up self-targeting (since I was bussed last night), because of the no-kill situation. That isn't confirmed or confirmable afaik, though.
In this case, Yzb is innocent.-vote theoneceko
@theoneceko Sorry gecko, but you'll have to speak up more than this if you want to live today
The other possibility is Superjack being ritual killer, btw. And I don't put the move of calling yzb the ritual killer past him as a ritual killer lol.
how do i vote again help
"I don't take advice from people less successful than me"
~Kanye West
SuperJack Claimed Invest Yesterday If I Recall Correctly.. IDK Why SJ Would Do That.
For anyone else still not convinced, allow me to reiterate the reasoning for there being a ritual killer:
-A 2nd cult leader would be terribly imbalanced and would result in town losing majority after d1 even if they lynch a scum d1.
-All the kills corroborate very well with SP being vigi and having shot them. There was no kill after SP died, for the following reasons:
1) It would be really weird for an SK to pick such pro-town kills.
2) It would be strange if an MM wasn't able to get a double kill by now.
3) SP corroborated targetting Renee and got a vigi rolecard.
-Ritual Killer/Ritual Killer/Jester King/Drug Dealer sounds very Deathworldsish
4) Gyr and Sen were visited on n1 and n2 respectively and noone every claimed to visit them. Only a Ritual Killer would have an incentive to hide that information. SK and MM would be happy to claim credit for those visits.
If we're confident we don't have an MM and we have a ritual killer, I actually think the optimal action is to skip and let investigatives check again. Ritual Killer likely can only burn Noz tonight leaving MM and Ceko to collect more info. Town won't lose majority if there's no lynch today.
@Marshmallow Marshall
Me or YZP please.
Shouldn't you be pushing Ceko yzb25, since they claimed to got no visits. But you believe yourself to be citizen? Since there is no witch (which you where upset about) existing to change the result.
I Wanna Know What Happened To Varcron..
I'm inclined to believe he Rage-in-Grief'd at the start of day 3 rather than the end of day 1 like he claimed. If he was aware he was Cult Leader / Jester King at the start of day 2, BC's day 2 play should have confirmed for Varcron that he was the jester king and he would have come forward and revealed. He did not strike me as the kind of person who felt like he needed to "earn" his win like BC did.
"25% chance of receiving 2 separate pieces of random feedback, instead of any feedback they might receive."
This is quoted from the setup. It's mechanically impossible for you to get the "Your cell was visited last night" feedback twice on the same night. Therefore, your feedback was screwed with.
I checked yzb last night. He came up as "Sinister." This makes zero sense considering my earlier leads. So am I really a Lunatic Sheriff who received fake feedback the entire game??
Here were my checks:
Night 1: Ganelon is Insane (he was Drug Dealer)
Night 2: SP is Insane (he was Jester)
Night 3: yzb25 is Sinister (he was bussed with MM last night, so I just checked MM lol)
My night 1 check makes sense if I'm a Crazy sheriff.
My night 2 check makes sense if I'm a regular sheriff. I believe SecondPassing was vigilante as well; both his kills were pro-town. Please check Order of Operations on this; sheriff check has priority over Jester King conversion.
My night 3 check makes sense if I'm a regular sheriff.
Holy shit, I colossally fucked up. I'm sorry. I got my feedbacks for nights 1 and 2 reversed.
I was visited in my cell on n1, but not on n2. This finally clears a few things up for me.
1. I am the actual Sheriff. However, I was witched on n1 to visit an Insane role. This is why I received Insane feedback from Ganelon.
2. There's a witch in this setup. Check these posts that show SP targeted Vacuum:
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...047#post862047
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...015#post862015
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...335#post862335
However, Ganelon was killed that night.
The fact I screwed up on my night feedback explains yzb and SuperJack's cautiousness. Yzb's citizen claim was weird. First, he claimed to visit Renegade because he thought I wasn't visited on n1:
Note how he claims to visit a dead person who couldn't confirm his visit, then comes up with this TMI post today:
I don't think anyone realized Gyr & Sen were visited until you pointed this out.
First, you point out the possibility of a Ritual Killer then push for a skip. I think you just dug your own grave here. My leads on Ganelon and SP are confirmed, now that I got the witch business cleared out of the way.
I believe yzb is RK and SJ is the witch. Since RK is obviously a higher priority target, yzb needs to die today.
-vote yzb25